Earthglide through ice?


Rules Questions

Sczarni

Just a quick check before upcoming game this week end.

It's gonna take place in a frost giant king's stronghold, LOOOOOTS of icy surface and rooms where walls are actualy made of pure ice.

As i understand the rules about earthglide ice is not some form of natural earth/dirt and such.
So i would rule that it is not permitted to "glide" through ice.

Am i correct?


Yes. There is no way frozen water can be considered earth or dirt.


Wow.


The Ice Elemental (from Bestiary 2) has an ice glide ability.

It also has the icewalking ability, which is shared by White Dragons.

Sczarni

Are wrote:

The Ice Elemental (from Bestiary 2) has an ice glide ability.

It also has the icewalking ability, which is shared by White Dragons.

Ok unless i'm missing the point we are talking about earthglide here!


Yes.
Yes, you missed the point.
He's pointing out that there is an Ice glide ability and therefore Earthglide is not the same thing.
Earth does not equal water.


Vaahama wrote:
Are wrote:

The Ice Elemental (from Bestiary 2) has an ice glide ability.

It also has the icewalking ability, which is shared by White Dragons.

Ok unless i'm missing the point we are talking about earthglide here!

Yes, Are is pointing out that Iceglide and Icewalking are available meaning that Earthglide does not apply, since Iceglide is what is necessary to move through ice, Earthglide does not work.

The Exchange

does water walking allow someone to ignore slippery effects of ice?


I don't think so, that's why "icewalking" exists.


Chernobyl wrote:
does water walking allow someone to ignore slippery effects of ice?

Yes. Ice is one of the surfaces mentioned in the description of the Water Walk spell. Go to this link and read the entry.


What people said. Earthglide allows you to glide through earth. That includes rock, but not metal, or wood, or water. Including frozen water.


Imagine earthgliding without x-ray vision, and gliding right through a spear/lance/sword-shaped vein of iron.

OUCHIES!

So that begs an interesting question. While you're earth-gliding, you are considered somewhat out-of-phase, which is what facilitates the gliding part, right? What happens of you encounter what I described above, and you die from it? (NOTE: if this is the risks for kewl-powrz like "earth-glide"...you can keep em. :D)


not much differentt than walking around normally but in the dark and there happens to be swords/spears sticking out. nothing happens, basically. movement isn't enough to cause an attack roll... otherwise you could attack people for free by 'moving into them' while holding a spear.


A more interesting quetion is if you can see where you go while earthgliding. I'd say yes. Same with burrowing. It'll be stupid moving random :)

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