If I am reading it correct every time I get attacked I can choose to roll a 20+plus my perception and take that as the armor class correct?
my Sense motive is +26 right now with Snake Style activated if I wanted to to take a bunch more feats I could bump it up to at least 30+
I am level 10 with Wis maxed out
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If I am reading it correct every time I get attacked I can choose to roll a 20+plus my perception and take that as the armor class correct?
my Sense motive is +26 right now with Snake Style activated if I wanted to to take a bunch more feats I could bump it up to at least 30+
I am level 10 with Wis maxed out
discuss.
You are correct, with this caveat that you can only use this one time per round (read the action type, immediate, not free) and it uses up your swift action for your turn immediately following. So, you can't do it EVERY time you get attacked, just once per round, and if you use it every round you can't ever do another swift action.
You are correct, with this caveat that you can only use this one time per round (read the action type, immediate, not free) and it uses up your swift action for your turn immediately following. So, you can't do it EVERY time you get attacked, just once per round, and if you use it every round you can't ever do another swift action.If I am reading it correct every time I get attacked I can choose to roll a 20+plus my perception and take that as the armor class correct?
my Sense motive is +26 right now with Snake Style activated if I wanted to to take a bunch more feats I could bump it up to at least 30+
I am level 10 with Wis maxed out
discuss.
Thats it that was what I was looking for! a caveat! I thought I was reading it wrong.
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Thats it that was what I was looking for! a caveat! I thought I was reading it wrong.You are correct, with this caveat that you can only use this one time per round (read the action type, immediate, not free) and it uses up your swift action for your turn immediately following. So, you can't do it EVERY time you get attacked, just once per round, and if you use it every round you can't ever do another swift action.If I am reading it correct every time I get attacked I can choose to roll a 20+plus my perception and take that as the armor class correct?
my Sense motive is +26 right now with Snake Style activated if I wanted to to take a bunch more feats I could bump it up to at least 30+
I am level 10 with Wis maxed out
discuss.
Yeah, we had an Inquisitor trying to use this against every attack for a session until I found that little gem. He wasn't terribly happy about it, but he had to admit that if you could use it against every attack it would be incredibly INCREDIBLY broken.
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Probably a silly question, but:
I'm assuming any other active bonuses to AC are ignored when you roll the Snake Style check? (ie: your armor, dodge/shield bonuses, etc.)
Everything is ignored. You use your Sense Motive roll in place of your AC.
Pretty freakin' great IMO. My Monk has it along with Crane (or Panther, still not solid on which I'm going with this level) and Dragon styles, and I hardly ever get hit by that one attack I wanna say "Nope." to.
"It's got poison!"
"Nope."
"Collossal Creature Grab attack!"
"Nope."
"It's Richard Simmons!"
"Nope."
Everything is ignored. You use your Sense Motive roll in place of your AC.
Pretty freakin' great IMO. My Monk has it along with Crane (or Panther, still not solid on which I'm going with this level) and Dragon styles, and I hardly ever get hit by that one attack I wanna say "Nope." to.
It is pretty freakin' great. Combined with Crane would make you an awesome tank. Here's a list of some of the things that will increase your sense motive to get an insane armour class once a round:
Inquisitor's Monocle 6800gp (from Ultimate Equipment) gives +5 competence bonus to Sense Motive
Skill Focus (Sense Motive) will give +6 bonus with 10 ranks invested
Cracked Incandescent Blue Ioun Stone (from Seeker of Secrets) gives +1 competence bonus to wisdom based skill (won't stack with Monocle)
The following Traits will give +1 trait bonus: Suspicious, Cynic (Mendev), Issian Noble (Brevoy), Jungle Diplomat, Narrows Survivor, Pesh Addict (Katapesh)
I have the trait Sensing Imperfection that gives +1 SM as well. I do have a 3.5 item (Third Eye: Expose) that gives me +5 Sense Motive, but I don't plan on taking Skill Focus (or maybe I should) and the Third Eye is also a Competence Bonus I believe so no shenannery with the Monocle/Ioun Stone. Thanks for the advice though.
I've got a 23 Sense Motive right now which seems pretty aight. I can never roll lower than my AC at the very least (23 AC right now), and a potential 43 AC against one attack is always nice, especially since I don't have to use it but get to smack anybody who misses me.
Inquisitors to Iori for the win: gets free unarmed strike feat so is made for this sort of combo. Humans can swap a bonus feat for 'focused study' which nets 3 skill focus feats for +6 to sense motive, perception and perhaps acrobatics (wisdom of the flesh trait).
I've never paid much attention to Inquisitors. I'll have to check out an Inquisitor to Iori to see what sort of interesting build I could come up with.
Pretty freakin' great IMO. My Monk has it along with Crane (or Panther, still not solid on which I'm going with this level) and Dragon styles, and I hardly ever get hit by that one attack I wanna say "Nope." to.
I hope you know that you can only have 1 style up at a time, switching between them as a swift action. Unless you have Combat Style Master, which effectively lets you have all your styles up at once.
Pretty freakin' great IMO. My Monk has it along with Crane (or Panther, still not solid on which I'm going with this level) and Dragon styles, and I hardly ever get hit by that one attack I wanna say "Nope." to.I hope you know that you can only have 1 style up at a time, switching between them as a swift action. Unless you have Combat Style Master, which effectively lets you have all your styles up at once.
Or I'm a Master of Many Styles at 8th level who can pop up 3 Styles at once as a Swift.
Which I am.
It's awesome, as long as the enemy attacks you in melee.
On the flip side, you have poor enhancement and 3/4 BAB to counter-attack with, so you need all those rolls just to land a few attacks. The biggest problem with the MoMS is it plays to the monk's weakness making it a less than stellar choice. It's a great dip, though, for other combat classes, which I find almost offensive because it encourages out-monking the monk.
Archon Style is a great one to blend in with a Master of Many Styles. Archon/Crane/Snake becomes an attack of opportunity/NOPE machine.
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I am starting to play in a wrath game and took one level of monk and am going level rest in rogue . My plan is to use unarmed strikes with sneak attack dmg . I plan to go into the prestige class sleepless detective at level 6 . using the snake style and my sense motive to effectively say no to one attack per round with a very high sense motive . I like the flavor of it and so wanted to name the char sherlock holmes .. but alas I didn't ..
Funky Badger hits the nail on the head when he mentions disintegrate as a use for Snake Style. Snake Style is one of the only ways in the game that reasonably protects you from touch attacks, including the gunslinger's firearm attacks.
Granted, in the case of the Gunslinger he's probably going to hit you with his iterative attacks, but saying, "NO," to even one attack is still nice.