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No bugs here either finished EU twice. Just started EW it is worth the money.


Werthead wrote:
What bugs? I've never encountered any in 80 hours (on PC). The closest thing is what the camera very occasionally gets a bit confused and sits on the other side of a wall whilst you're firing on the other side, but that's hardly serious.

These bugs.

But the one that kept getting me was the game would just hang when switching between soldiers. I could still move the camera, etc., but couldn't take any actions. Happened two or three times, and once at the end of a long involved mission. That soured me on the game and I've still not gone back.


Do you have an AMD CPU and/or an AMD/ATI graphics card?

More and more and more PC games are now pretty much optimised for nVidia cards only, the result of AMD/ATI losing massive amounts of market share (nVidia now have about 55-60% of the PC graphics market, AMD are down to about 25%). Looking through the bug report list, a lot of them are coming from people with AMD hardware.

I know it sucks to be in that situation, but by some accounts AMD have been less than cooperative in working with games manufacturers on optimising things for their games, so it's a difficult situation to be in.


Werthead wrote:

Do you have an AMD CPU and/or an AMD/ATI graphics card?

More and more and more PC games are now pretty much optimised for nVidia cards only, the result of AMD/ATI losing massive amounts of market share (nVidia now have about 55-60% of the PC graphics market, AMD are down to about 25%). Looking through the bug report list, a lot of them are coming from people with AMD hardware.

I know it sucks to be in that situation, but by some accounts AMD have been less than cooperative in working with games manufacturers on optimising things for their games, so it's a difficult situation to be in.

Yup...Radeon 6850. Happily, I have various other parts, including a GTX 550ti lying around. Maybe I'll give that a whirl.


So here is something I don't understand: Does Enemy Within add a new campaign to the game or does it add its contents to the EU campaign? Or both?

I am wondering wether it makes sense to play through the rest of my game before getting the expansion or i should get the expansion and then start over to experience the full content of it without having previously spoiled the entire campaign once.


XCOM - Enemy Within is a major expansion. XCOM can be played without it, but if you have the spare cash, then I would pick up the XCOM - Enemy Within expansion. Having played the vanilla game and Enemy Within, all I can say is that it was worth buying the enemy Within expansion.

Note - If you buy enemy Within, you are REBUYING the original XCOM - Enemy Unkown game and you get the Slingshot DLC as well as the Enemy Within expansion.

Scarab Sages

It adds content to the campaign. This content includes a new faction and a new resource (along with new options for your base and soldiers) as well as several new maps and campaign missions. Overall, if you played the campaign before, the options make a big enough impact to make a second run worthwhile, but if you haven't finished it yet, get the expansion first.


Then getting the expansion it is. Thanks!


It is well worth picking up XCOM - Enemy Within, even if you own XCOM - Enemy Unknown.

Scarab Sages

Oh, and I forgot - if you ever want to play the original campaign without the expansion stuff, you have the option to do so.


I would suggest playing vanilla XCOM first before hitting the ENEMY WITHIN options (for new players). XCOM is very much a learning game where you have to treat your first playthrough as a tutorial you're probably going to lose, and then when you know what the hell is happening you can start again. I think adding the ENEMY WITHIN options on top of that for a first playthrough can be a bit daunting.

Also, they play rather differently: ENEMY WITHIN encourages a much more fast-moving, aggressive playstyle which I think you can only really do properly once you've learned the ropes on the vanilla game.

Fortunately, XCOM is extremely replayable. My ENEMY WITHIN playthrough is my fourth in a year.


Anybody got any tips on how to get through the scenereo with the sharks and whale - there are so many enemies the best I was able to do was save one squad member out of 5.


What difficulty do you play on? I was doing pretty good until i accidentally said yes when it asked me if i want to abort the mission because i had some guys in the evac zone. (which caused me to lose the other 3 which were still in the field), i had to reload a much earlier save after that and havent had the scenario again since.

I had two MEC troopers who basically did all the work, from activating the beacon to covering my retreat, the rest of the squad was basically just running straight home.


Standard I don't have any MECs yet.


In that case I would attempt keeping the squad tight throughout the whole mission so they would meet every chryssalid together. Since chryssalids and zombies are all melee and have no area effects you don't need to bother with cover or fanning your guys out.

Once you activated the countdown do have the whole squad retreat together move once/shoot once each turn. Perhaps do a leapfrog type retreat where half the squad moves and shoots and the other half dashes. That might give you some more room to reload (dashing half slows down to reload).

It's all theory though, since i have had only that one encounter with the scenario.


That's what I was doing until every shark and fish popped it got to the point where I was outnumbered 3 to 1.

I think I am going to start the game again my usual choices don't work for me anymore.


I got the scenario again recently, with one mec trooper on the team this time. Knowing where to go I headed straight for the ship. I sent the mec onto the ship alone while the rest of the squad was waiting halfway. It worked pretty well, the way back was then having the squad on over watch and moving once each turn while the mec caught up. It also helped me that the mec could mine the two holes in the hull. Without a mec, i would probably try sending a support soldier with sprinter to call the air strike. They should be able to catch up reasonably well.

Anyway is it just me or have they upped the female soldier ratio in Enemy Within significantly? I remember barely getting any female soldiers while playing EU. And now in my EW playthrough 70% of my mainstay soldiers are actually women.


I got the Valkyrie achievement first mission in as my squad was all female. I didn't plan it that way or know there was a Valkyrie achievement.

Sovereign Court

I was lucky with it on my Impossible/Iron Man playthrough. By the time I got that particular council mission, I had tier 3 mech's and a full squad of Colonels. Proximity mined the hell out of the approach to that ship and got everyone back comfortably with no hairy moments by Turn 4.


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Anyway is it just me or have they upped the female soldier ratio in Enemy Within significantly? I remember barely getting any female soldiers while playing EU. And now in my EW playthrough 70% of my mainstay soldiers are actually women.

I don't think so. On all my playthroughs I've always ended up with quite a few female soldiers. In fact, all of my decent snipers (on four playthroughs) have been women.


So decided to pick up EW based on the strength of EU. I started again from the beginning, and so far, so good. I love how Meld is fully integrated into the campaign.


On the whaling village mission, I had to play it twice due to failing to save after completing it the 1st time. I lost the soldier I sent to activate the gps both times, but otherwise was fine. The crysilids aren't fans of the flamethrower from the MEC. I've found that any left alive after being hit panic, and then trigger over watch shots when they come back.


For that mission, I kept most of my men in one area and kept the bugs contained. I then sent my support and assault up to push the button. They covered each other and then RAN away once the button was pushed. My sniper, other support, and MEC kept them away and then I staggered everyone as one ran and the other fired. I got out with two turn to spare.

Another approach is to have two or three squad sight snipers going at it while the rest just get close.


Sharoth wrote:

For that mission, I kept most of my men in one area and kept the bugs contained. I then sent my support and assault up to push the button. They covered each other and then RAN away once the button was pushed. My sniper, other support, and MEC kept them away and then I staggered everyone as one ran and the other fired. I got out with two turn to spare.

Another approach is to have two or three squad sight snipers going at it while the rest just get close.

My tech development has been really slow for this play through for some reason, and I am still stuck with largely projectile weapons. I found that having my squad dominated by heavies really helps to mitigate that. This is my first play through where my sniper is not the main killer. I have a heavy with 30-some kills, and he isn't even near top ranked (although he has been alive since the very first mission). The long and the short of it is that this is why sniper coverage would not have worked for me, but that is a great strategy nonetheless.

My heavy that I sent to activate the GPS just couldn't outrun the bugs...


I know how you feel. I am attepting my second Classic run and it is BRUTAL!!! I have lost three people already in two missions. No wonder I prefer Normal mode. ~grins~ Just lazy I guess. I am not looking foreward to doing an impossible run.


I started Enemy Within on Classic. I'd beaten Unknown on Classic, and figured it couldn't be much harder. Yeah. I was wrong. *grin* Some of it is my own fault. I should be building labs and workshops, but I wanted the new toys NOW. 34 days to research light plasma rifles....


EW is noticeably harder than EU on the same difficulty setting. Dealing with EXALT can be pretty punishing and the Meld Rush makes 'normal' missions pretty dicey as well.


I actually found it easier than EU, i have gotten much further by now in the EW campaign than i was in EU and haven't lost half as many soldiers. (i had already racked up about 12 casualties (not counting the guys from the tutorial mission) barely past the alien base raid in my EU playthrough, in EW I'm well past that point and have lost a total of 5 soldiers) Hell most of the time i come back from missions and my soldiers aren't even wounded.

Sustaining enough injury to have soldiers have to recover for a while has only really started with Sectopods showing up.

I played both campaigns on normal.


Yay I made it no deaths - 3 heavys 1 assault and a support.

Sent the Assault and support on to the ship, support overwatched, the assult run and gunned to the transponder and the heavys overwatched from the crate.


Training roulette is amazing. :D


I just had my 1st exalt extraction. Ugh. They kept coming... And it was a small map so I just got overrun. Tough mission.


So is anyone still playing this? I know I am.

I wish my computer was newer because I would buy the PC version and install the Long War mod. It looks interesting.


There is a mod?....

I play off and on.


Yes. It is called the Long War mod. Let me get the links for you sometime today.


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The Long War Mod for XCOM - Enemy Within.


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nerco-ing this tread because I got the game for my son this Christmas. Had a day off today and tried the game myself. Having played a bit of the original game and Terror from the Deep, I was treading on familiar grounds...

Game started good, a bit of save-cheatging but not overly so. I was about to loose North America when a well timed terror mission allowed me to keep panic under control. New satellites where their way, things where good...

Then a pair of mutons appeared behind my squad when my assault revealed their location while dashing. Crap. Overwatch failed to connect, and two lucky crits take both my snipers out dead-cold. No time to mourn, show must go on.

Then I get a council mission to Newfoundland Canada. If you played it you probably know which one I mean. Some of my best friends are from Newfoundland, so of course I accept. I even take Canadian rookie Barnes (who I decided was a Newfie) with us on the field for our first mission without sniper back-up.

wow, I was in for a ride worthy of Aliens/chryssalids extravaganza! I had never encountered more than two (on that Terror mission), and now they are spawning at a rate of 1-3 per round! And I have to cross their nest AND make it back to evac ?!? With more of them bursting out of sharks all over the place when I'm racing back ?!? Damned, lost two more experienced soldiers that day, my two assaults, and I considered myself lucky I didn't lose more. Barnes made it back however, but I fear she will never be the same...

Now i'm out of snipers AND assaults... oh wait! Barnes has taken "Double Down"'s fallen shotgun and filled-in the role!

Liberty's Edge

Got the game for my Dad this Christmas, and we both love it.

I'm gonna start an Ironman LP at some point. I can't wait for the sequel.

Liberty's Edge

Oh God, Newfoundland. My Dad and I have flashbacks to Newfoundland.


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Newfoundland is baaaaad news. I was impressed the game managed to present such a tense and foreboding level though!

I loved your recounting, Laurefindel! I hope you and your son have a lot more fun with it!


Long war is amazing. That docks map is hell.


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Are people looking forward to XCOM 2? There's a gameplay series or two on youtube, but I've been avoiding them so I can experience the game for myself.

Sovereign Court

Oh yes I'm looking forward to it.


Gaekub wrote:
Are people looking forward to XCOM 2? There's a gameplay series or two on youtube, but I've been avoiding them so I can experience the game for myself.

looks like they inverted the roles; aliens are the "good citizen" and XCOM operatives are the invading units.

Scarab Sages

New video card coming in this weekend. Only about 3 weeks til xcom 2! Much excited.


And my birthday happen to be next month... Maybe when if the friends will be asking what I want for my present...

Liberty's Edge

I'm getting it for my Dad.

Sovereign Court

getting a new PC in a month or so. Can't wait.


totalbiscuit's spoiler-free review got me all kinds of jazzed for x-com 2; it's looking like everything I'm hoping it'll be!


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Probably the game I am most looking forward to in this year and it's almost here already, teehee. :D

Dark Archive

How much longer till it comes out ? Next month right? I am so looking forward to this release.

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