# Gust of Wind vs. Obscuring Mist

### Rules Questions

In a recent game, we had a caster using obscuring mist against us, so I had my sorcerer use gust of wind to try and defeat it. However we can across an issue with the wording of each spell.

In the description of obscuring mist it says:

"A moderate wind (11+ mph), such as from a gust of wind spell, disperses the fog in 4 rounds. A strong wind (21+ mph) disperses the fog in 1 round."

However the gust of wind spell says:

"This spell creates a severe blast of air (approximately 50 mph) that originates from you..."

I aurgued that gust of wind says 50mph, so it should affect obscuring mist as per the wind, not as per Obscuring mist. Plus being a 2nd level spell it should affect a 1st level spell.

This looks like a case of one spell not checking the other spell properties to me, and going back to 3.5 seems the same issue. So can someone give me a clarification on this.

Thanks

Gust of Wind should disperse it in one round. It is the "primary source" on what its own wind speed is.

EDIT: And given GoW's duration, I'm not sure it's even possible for it to disperse it over 4 rounds...

Here's the way I look at it. Is gust of wind moving at greater than 11 mph? Yes. Then it'll do the job in a maximum of 4 rounds. Now we look at strong wind. Does it meet or exceed the 21+ mph criterion? Yes. So now we're down to one round. The phrase "such as from a gust of wind spell" is an example of a wind greater than 11 mph; it just happens to be a LOT greater. GOW obviously meets the strong wind requirements, so you use that one. The statements are not in contradiction.

StreamOfTheSky wrote:
Gust of Wind should disperse it in one round. It is the "primary source" on what its own wind speed is.

And this is how we played it. It was just the fact that obscuring mist directly references Gust of Wind, but the fact that Gust of wind does more than the other reference thinks it does.

I'm going to take a different approach here and ask:
Why the hell did your Sorcerer waste a spell known on Gust of Wind? Please, tell me this was in a wand...

mplindustries wrote:

I'm going to take a different approach here and ask:

Why the hell did your Sorcerer waste a spell known on Gust of Wind? Please, tell me this was in a wand...

Some folks like to choose their spells primarily for flavor. I know if I was playing an air/wind focused caster, gust of wind would probably make my list. And that's before getting into the practical applications.

Heck, I wish my sorcerer had it in AP NAME REDACTED. That would have saved us a lot of trouble in a lot of spots.

Gust of wine counters multiple line of sight blocking spells as well as stinking could. If your dm likes to use these or your encountering monsters with them as SLA, it is a good spell.

As for gust itself, its the primary spell for removing fogs it should work in one round as it says 50mph

Lastly at least one of the elemental bloodlines gives it as a bonus spell which is I'm guessing why the op's sorcerer has it.

Don't get me wrong, as one of my last Sorcerer spells, I think Gust of Wind is not a bad idea (though it still makes a better wand or scroll).

I guess I was just assuming we were talking about fairly low level (making Gust of Wind one of his first choices), because the spell we're talking about countering is Obscuring Mist and not something dangerous like Stinking Cloud or Cloudkill.

If this is a higher level sorcerer with several other 2nd level spells known, then I retract my comment (though, really, once again--wand or scroll!).