Disguise, Bluff, and Magic?


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Of note, I only want answers backed up by something in RAW, your opinion is not what I am looking for.

Does disguise cover altering the voice of a user or does it only cover the visual aspects of a disguise?

If the vocal aspects of disguise fall under other skills, which ones? I've noticed that magic items exist that give a bonus to bluff to imitate a voice. I've also noticed that vocal alteration (the spell) gives a bonus to disguise when it changes a users voice.

If using magic to create a disguise (via disguise self or other spells) that only cover visual aspects, does that bonus only apply as long as you don't talk or let a person touch you (since it doesn't cover sound or tactile senses)? I know it likely doesn't make a difference unless you know something specific about the user or the person they are impersonating (such as a perfume smell, rough skin, specific voice). If a user uses magic like disguise self and vocal alteration, would that count as a combined bonus of +20 to disguise, or is it just a +10 that is harder to disbelieve?

If I make a mundane disguise that I enhance with magic and the magic gets dispelled or disbelieved, does my disguise automatically fail or does their check go against my now lower disguise check? I know I would likely still have to explain the magic with some kind of awesome bluff check for the lie of the century, but that is beside the point.

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From what I could find, the Disguise skill usually refers to physical disguises. There are definite examples like the Vocal Alteration spell where other senses apply.

The disguise kit description was not kept from 3.5; it used to say that it contained wigs, false noses, makeup, clothing, and perfumes, if I recall correctly.

RAW does state that you retain the advantage of your mundane disguise even if your opponent can see through your magical disguise. You use your (lower) Disguise check.

The art of decieving others by voice is typically handled through Bluff.

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There's a spell for changing your voice, and nothing in the Disguise skill description suggests that it alters anything other than your appearance, so I expect that you'd need the spell to alter your voice.

Daron Woodson
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