Thunderforge |
This should be a straightforward question. Once a summoner attains tenth level and gains the class Aspect ability (quoted below), is it always active or is it active only when the eidolon is present?
Aspect (Su)
At 10th level, a summoner can divert up to 2 points from his eidolon’s evolution pool to add evolutions to himself. He cannot select any evolution that the eidolon could not possess, and he must be able to meet the requirements as well. He cannot select the ability increase evolution through this ability. Any points spent in this way are taken from the eidolon’s evolution pool (reducing the total number available to the eidolon). The summoner can change the evolutions he receives from these points any time he can change the eidolon’s evolutions.
HangarFlying |
If I can play devil's advocate (if anything, so I can better understand the summoner when I GM a game in a few weeks), how are the evolution points available to draw from if the eidolon isn't summoned? Even though the number of evolution points are dependent upon summoner level, those actual points are tied to the eidolon. If the eidolon isn't available, it would seem that the evolution points are not available either (they certainly aren't sitting in the Summoner's pocket when the eidolon is gone).
Revan |
If I can play devil's advocate (if anything, so I can better understand the summoner when I GM a game in a few weeks), how are the evolution points available to draw from if the eidolon isn't summoned? Even though the number of evolution points are dependent upon summoner level, those actual points are tied to the eidolon. If the eidolon isn't available, it would seem that the evolution points are not available either (they certainly aren't sitting in the Summoner's pocket when the eidolon is gone).
Ah, but you don't allocate an Eidsolon's evolution points when you summon it, you allocate them, for the most part, when you level up.
HangarFlying |
HangarFlying wrote:If I can play devil's advocate (if anything, so I can better understand the summoner when I GM a game in a few weeks), how are the evolution points available to draw from if the eidolon isn't summoned? Even though the number of evolution points are dependent upon summoner level, those actual points are tied to the eidolon. If the eidolon isn't available, it would seem that the evolution points are not available either (they certainly aren't sitting in the Summoner's pocket when the eidolon is gone).Ah, but you don't allocate an Eidsolon's evolution points when you summon it, you allocate them, for the most part, when you level up.
Sure, and I'm not trying to imply otherwise.
Bobson |
Revan wrote:Sure, and I'm not trying to imply otherwise.HangarFlying wrote:If I can play devil's advocate (if anything, so I can better understand the summoner when I GM a game in a few weeks), how are the evolution points available to draw from if the eidolon isn't summoned? Even though the number of evolution points are dependent upon summoner level, those actual points are tied to the eidolon. If the eidolon isn't available, it would seem that the evolution points are not available either (they certainly aren't sitting in the Summoner's pocket when the eidolon is gone).Ah, but you don't allocate an Eidsolon's evolution points when you summon it, you allocate them, for the most part, when you level up.
I'm not sure what you are trying to imply. When you level up, you allocate the evolution points. Aspect allows you to allocate some to yourself instead of the eidolon. After that, they have nothing to do with the eidolon (until next level, when they go back in the pool).
Thunderforge |
Glad to see I can use this to gain flight (@ lvl 10). I'm not one who usually likes pulling evolution points off the eidolon for the summoner, but this is a Master Summoner character so the eidolon is just built for use as a mount and paired with my summoner for scouting purposes.
A brownie master summoner with a small mount and shared stealth modifiers thanks to Stealth Synergy makes for a sneaky pair.
Sneak into position and let it rain aurochs!