The new series of Doctor Who starts this Saturday on the BBC.


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As the subject says, for anyone that isn't aware!


Good to know. Thanks.


WOOOOOO!!!

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And on BBCA here in the states.


What time/day on BBCA?

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Sept. 1st, 8:00 pm CDT

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The official website is showing special mini-episodes every day this week in the run up to the new series.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00wqr12/features/pond-life

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Just a reminder to use spoiler tags in here... the US and UK will be airing episodes a week ahead of other countries.

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Thanks for the heads up. We do need to be considerate. A lot is suppose to happen this season. My wife and I are so ready for this new season.

I also heard that Matt Smith has signed on for 2013 too.

Cheers,

Mazra

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Feels like I've been waiting Forever.

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Flashohol wrote:
Feels like I've been waiting Forever.

I feel like I've been keeping watch as long as the Last Centurion.

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LazarX wrote:
Flashohol wrote:
Feels like I've been waiting Forever.
I feel like I've been keeping watch as long as the Last Centurion.

Clever.

Shadow Lodge

Interesting twist with Oswin. Gotta admit, when we first saw her I was pretty damn gobsmacked...thinking "You're a few episodes early, aren't you?"

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Has anyone else noticed the style of the "Doctor Who" in the opening credits is changing to match the episode. Dalek bumps in the first, Dinosaur skin in the second.

Oh, and

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Does anyone wonder if there's a connection between the Dalek meat puppet at the council, and Amy? And the new companion is more my type than Ms. Gillian, physiologically at least.

Edit

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And is anyone else wondering if we're seeing Amy/Rory out of synch? Unless the eurominutes added context, I notice the '10 months ago' was very unspecific as to if it was the bit with the Daleks.

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Can anyone link to watch online?

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Going to bed but the blurb on This toy might have some interesting hints.


The Doctor was in fine form at the start of the season, I suppose, but I have to wonder

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Who builds an asylum/prison and puts all the keys on the inside? Seems like an awfully clumsy hook to get the Doctor to go in there. Souffle girl was a bit predictable as well.

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I'm not a fan of picking up the Ponds at the start of the episode and dropping them off at home afterwards. If you're going to travel with the Doctor, then by god, TRAVEL with him.

Hell, when all is said and done, Amy and Rory will have had more goodbyes than even the tombstone-toothed chav shopgirl.

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Echoing Flashohol -- where can I legally watch this online in the U.S. (can't watch on BBC iPlayer, that's restricted to UK only)?

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Kthulhu wrote:

I'm not a fan of picking up the Ponds at the start of the episode and dropping them off at home afterwards. If you're going to travel with the Doctor, then by god, TRAVEL with him.

Hell, when all is said and done, Amy and Rory will have had more goodbyes than even the tombstone-toothed chav shopgirl.

I'm actually okay with the idea as something new (it's not the same situation as Rose) and is kind of interesting as an evolution of something the Doctor is trying to do -- remember toward the end of Ten's life, he refused to travel with people for awhile because he was afraid of how he endangered others' lives and/or of ruining others' lives (which in fairness, given what happened to Rose and Donna, is understandable). At the very end he re-discovered appreciating his friends.

It makes sense that in his own way, Eleven is trying to seek a balance between having his friends but also letting them live their own lives. It is also trying to have your own cake and eat it too, but I think that aspect of it is also why I think it is unlikely the situation will end well.

But I still think it's narratively intentional--there is a reason for this and as weird and see-saw-ish as it's going to be, they're going somewhere character-development-wise. This is different again from Rose, who I really think they originally meant to write out for good and RTD went, "Ohnoes I miss my Mary Sue" and shoehorned a way to get her back (thus utterly cheapening the dramatic impact of her original departure).

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I guess as long as Amy actually leaves when she leaves, and the Doctor doesn't spend rest of the series trying to make

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Clara or Oswin or whoever she is

feel like an inferior Amy substitute. To this day, I feel bad for Freema Agyeman...between making Martha fall in love with the Doctor and having him treat her like that...RTD really never gave her a chance.

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Aside:

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It's interesting that the 'price scanner' didn't seem to recognize not only the Doctor, but a Time Lord or the Tardis. Given River's speech in "The Impossible Astronaut" that struck me as strange. And if Nephy is priceless, why wouldn't the TARDIS be? As far as we know, she's the last one. I'm wondering if something is erasing the Time Lords from everywhere.

"A man is the sum of his memories. A Time Lord moreso." - The Fifth Doctor.

Sczarni

Matthew Morris wrote:

Aside:

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Mysterious, indeed. How did the Indian Space Agency know to contact him, yet there's no information on him in Filch's scanner thingie?

Perhaps we've seen the beginning of this season's arc plot...

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Kthulhu wrote:

I guess as long as Amy actually leaves when she leaves, and the Doctor doesn't spend rest of the series trying to make

** spoiler omitted **
feel like an inferior Amy substitute. To this day, I feel bad for Freema Agyeman...between making Martha fall in love with the Doctor and having him treat her like that...RTD really never gave her a chance.

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I hope they focus more on the new companion not being just another modern day earth girl, but from somewhere else in time and space. I think that would be a really nice change of pace.

Trinite wrote:
Kthulhu wrote:

I guess as long as Amy actually leaves when she leaves, and the Doctor doesn't spend rest of the series trying to make

** spoiler omitted **
feel like an inferior Amy substitute. To this day, I feel bad for Freema Agyeman...between making Martha fall in love with the Doctor and having him treat her like that...RTD really never gave her a chance.
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Agreed wholeheartedly! On the Martha thing and on the spoiler.


Trinite wrote:
Kthulhu wrote:

I guess as long as Amy actually leaves when she leaves, and the Doctor doesn't spend rest of the series trying to make

** spoiler omitted **
feel like an inferior Amy substitute. To this day, I feel bad for Freema Agyeman...between making Martha fall in love with the Doctor and having him treat her like that...RTD really never gave her a chance.
** spoiler omitted **

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And maybe not British. The universe seems to be very London centric for some reason. Hummm... ;-)

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Well, er, I think she is going to be British. Solely based on the fact that Jenna-Louise Coleman is. And I think that she'll definately have to have some sizeable connection to Oswin...Jenna's part was way too big and too close to Clara's debut for them not to be linked. Karen and Freema also appeared on the show before appearing as Amy and Martha, but they were very small parts (and Karen was covered with facepaint).

However, I truly doubt that they're actually going have a Dalek companion.

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Trinite wrote:
Kthulhu wrote:

I guess as long as Amy actually leaves when she leaves, and the Doctor doesn't spend rest of the series trying to make

** spoiler omitted **
feel like an inferior Amy substitute. To this day, I feel bad for Freema Agyeman...between making Martha fall in love with the Doctor and having him treat her like that...RTD really never gave her a chance.
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Companion Spoiler:
Maybe even part Dalek. ;)

Removed a post and the responses. Please do not post links to illegal content.


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I just have to rant a bit... Spoiler warning for Asylum of the Daleks as well as earler Dalek encounters.

GOD DAMN it's so frakkin' frustrating to see a show that has been so great take a turn for the worse and sink so low. I've gotten more and more annoyed over the course of the 5th and 6th season since the reboot, because I felt there were more and more obvious sexism and because it had less and less continuity...

But seriously, Asylum of the Daleks was horrible. So, we spend FOUR SEASONS focused on the Doctor getting to grips with the Time War and having destroyed his home planet and Skaro, wiping out all daleks.

Now there's a frakkin FLEET of them? And they're in a PARLIAMENT? Yeah, representative democracy sounds like the way Daleks are organized! Also, Skaro exists again? AND NOBODY MENTIONS THIS? One dalek is chained up in a museum - the doctor goes into a fit. Four daleks on earth - big frakkin' thing.

An ENORMOUS DALEK FLEET? Well, nothing to see here! Let's just ignore it! Also, let's ignore the fact that it doesn't make sense to send down the doctor instead of just ordering down the dalek goons (it's not like they're bad at following orders).

So, we have an asylum of mentally ill Daleks. The other Daleks means to blow up the place AND THE DOCTOR IS FINE WITH THIS? I mean, not only is there a sh*tload of ableism in making mentally ill daleks = worse daleks, there's also the issue of helping daleks! Sure, he's "forced" to do it, but he doesn't even try to avoid it!

And then we have the sexism. Say hello to MoffatGirl No.2634, sharing the unique qualities of smart, sexy and constantly flirting with any man available! Also, queerbaiting. And as usual, willing to sacrifise herself for the doctor. And as usual, Amy is not in control of her body, loses memory, and acts as damsel.

Oh, and Rory's a possessive, guilttripping asshat, but that's no news.

And how the heck did Souffle Girl (yay, sexist nickname!) get chained up in there? And why did she have a female human voice on the speakers and Dalek voice when they met? And why didn't the doctor figure out beforehand she was a Dalek?

Goshdarnit. This was a really, really bad episode. It's gotten worse for two seasons but this was worse than most.

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Response to stringburka:

(you really should spoiler your entire post, by the way)

Spoiler:

As long as the show exists, the Daleks are not going to be completely wiped out. Under RTD's reign, it was getting pretty goddamn ridiculous, with the show pretending to wipe them all out five or six times. With Victory of the Daleks, while not a great episode, Moffat at least acknowledged that they were here to stay. The show isn't pretending to kill them off every time they appear now, and that's a GOOD thing.

Was it ever actually established that Skaro was destroyed in the Time War? (If so, then we can simply assume that it is the Rory Williams of planets, given that it was also destroyed in Remembrance of the Daleks, IIRC.) Anyhow, classic Who destroyed Atlantis THREE TIMES. It's a show about time travel, where the titular character is NOT the only person out there with that capability. That it even has any semblance of continuity after 50 years is a goddamn miracle.

Hmmm...the Doctor is OK with blowing up a planet of Daleks that are insane even by Dalek standards. Errr...yeah. He's in general OK will blowing up a planet filled with "sane" Daleks...I'm not sure that the fact that these are batshit crazy is going to do much to deter him from that.

The Doctor may not have realized they had done a full Dalek conversion on Oswin, but he rather obviously knew that SOMETHING wasn't right. He had only been talking to her for a couple of minutes before he asked her where she was getting the milk for the souffle. She had a human voice because she was having the computer make her voice human.

I'm sorry that you somehow consider the qualities of smart, attractive, and confident to be horrible qualities for a woman to have. I personally prefer it when women have those qualities myself.

Tell me, if the nickname Souffle Girl was so sexist, then what are your thoughts on Chin Boy?

About the whole sexism issue, it seems to me that you're determined to find it in Doctor Who. And when someone is determined to find sexism, racism, etc in something, it doesn't matter how inoffensive the overwhelming majority of people find it, that person WILL find something to get their rant on about.

I don't really look at Oswin's end as primarily sacrificing herself for the Doctor. She can kill herself, and she can aid him at the same time. Frankly, if someone cut away everything but my brain and a bit of flesh around it and nearly turned me into a genocidal pepper pot, I don't think I'd want to hang around exploring my "new life" much either.

How exactly is Rory being a possessive, guiltripping asshat?

Oh, and LESS continuity? Can I try some of that crack?

To sum up: I strongly disagree. You prefer RTD and SpaceJesus. I don't. My best advice: tune out until a new showrunner takes the wheel. For some reason that's completely unfathomable to me, you seem to prefer RTD's nuWho...maybe the next era will be closer to that (although I sincerely hope not). The good news: Doctor Who is about change. Sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad. Wait around long enough, and there will almost certainly be something called Doctor Who that you like again.

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Aside:

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He had his bar code covered up. :P

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Echoing Flashohol -- where can I legally watch this online in the U.S. (can't watch on BBC iPlayer, that's restricted to UK only)?

Ideal if it's a place I don't have to sign up for to use.

I think that the only legal option in the US is iTunes. It's not free, or streaming, but it's a cheap download.

The US DVD/Blu-Ray of Series 7 Part 1 (that's the first 5 episodes) is due November 13.


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DeathQuaker wrote:

Echoing Flashohol -- where can I legally watch this online in the U.S. (can't watch on BBC iPlayer, that's restricted to UK only)?

Ideal if it's a place I don't have to sign up for to use.

I think that the only legal option in the US is iTunes. It's not free, or streaming, but it's a cheap download.

The US DVD/Blu-Ray of Series 7 Part 1 (that's the first 5 episodes) is due November 13.

They are usually about a Season behind, but Netflix instant watch also eventually adds Doctor Who.

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I *think* NetFlix only adds them after the DVD release.

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Same with Amazon.

Since BBCA has wimped out and trimmed, I'll have to watch them again for the Eurominutes.


i heard there was an asylum prequel (not a joke). Its on apple. Has anyone seen it and how long/worth it?

I'm a big fan of DR Who (grew up with Baker on tv). Asylum was good and was a lote slower paced than previous episodes which was fine with me. The whole sexism thing has been around since the begining I still havent made up my mind if i like Smith as the DR but i did enjoy it. The one thing i didnt like is the virus idea. Classic Dr who the humans were controlled through helmets. I would have preferred something along those lines.

question on the episode- Is there a scene with a Heavy weapon Dalek. I wanted to see 1 again and there looked like there would be one from a picture.

How many types of Daleks were in the parliament?


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To sum up: I strongly disagree. You prefer RTD and SpaceJesus. I don't. My best advice: tune out until a new showrunner takes the wheel. For some reason that's completely unfathomable to me, you seem to prefer RTD's nuWho...maybe the next era will be closer to that (although I sincerely hope not).

+1. Moffat has been such a step up from RTD in every way possible IMO, and anything that makes you happy going back toward that style is probably going to irk me, and vice versa.


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Response to stringburka:

(you really should spoiler your entire post, by the way)

** spoiler omitted **...

Can't spoiler now, unfortunately. Too late to edit. Hope the spoiler note will be enough.

Spoiler:

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As long as the show exists, the Daleks are not going to be completely wiped out. Under RTD's reign, it was getting pretty g$#$%*n ridiculous, with the show pretending to wipe them all out five or six times. With Victory of the Daleks, while not a great episode, Moffat at least acknowledged that they were here to stay. The show isn't pretending to kill them off every time they appear now, and that's a GOOD thing.

These aren't the new Teletubby Daleks though, they're the old ones. And every time Daleks have appeared it's been a big thing. It should have been a frakkin' huge thing now, even if they survived. I'm not against the doctor accepting that the Daleks will never be completely wiped out, but just ignoring the fact that there's a fleet of them that somehow escaped the Time War and not aknowledging it or asking how is simply... Astounding. I'm fine with the doctor not wiping out the daleks - I'm not fine with him not trying to or even aknowledging it.

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Was it ever actually established that Skaro was destroyed in the Time War?

Yes. It was mentioned repeatedly by both the 9th and 10th doctor.

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(If so, then we can simply assume that it is the Rory Williams of planets, given that it was also destroyed in Remembrance of the Daleks, IIRC.) Anyhow, classic Who destroyed Atlantis THREE TIMES. It's a show about time travel, where the titular character is NOT the only person out there with that capability. That it even has any semblance of continuity after 50 years is a g&&$&*n miracle.

It's NOT EVEN AKNOWLEDGED. I mean, they could've spent an entire season on the survival and rise of Skaro and here it just is without anyone even making a comment on "oh, it's back? how'd that happen?".

Yes, it could very well be made so it made sense - but the show doesn't bother.

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The Doctor may not have realized they had done a full Dalek conversion on Oswin // She had a human voice because she was having the computer make her voice human.

1. Why, oh WHY did the Daleks, the "Only Dalek is pure enough! Exterminate anything non-dalek!" race that has already killed of human/dalek hybrids several times because they weren't "pure", now convert people to Daleks? Did they have a workshop with the Cybermen?

2. Regardless, it's not really in the doctors character to not figure it out. We, as viewers, didn't get much other input than the Doctor did - and we could still figure it out a long time before he did!
3. How? Why would the computer make her have a human voice when she didn't even know her voice wasn't human?

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I'm sorry that you somehow consider the qualities of smart, attractive, and confident to be horrible qualities for a woman to have.

Lolwut? The issue isn't that she has these qualities - it's that EVERY FEMALE MOFFAT WRITES has the exact same traits! They're basically cardboard cutouts. There are several articles on Moffats portrayal of women (which is pretty horrible - just look at the abysmal bechdel test scores his episodes get).

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Tell me, if the nickname Souffle Girl was so sexist, then what are your thoughts on Chin Boy?

Stupid. It's not really sexist in the same way though - look at Oswin. What are the things they know about her? She's a hacker, she's stranded, she likes music and she likes baking. One of those things cater to the "women in the kitchen" trope and guess which one the writers have them use as her nickname?

Also, while you can pick events one for one and say that "this is not sexist", you have to look at it in light of how the rest of the series have been.

It's also interesting to see how "chin boy" and "nose" both point out how Matt Smith and Rory have traits that do not fit within the main view on "beauty". It very clearly shows how much lower requirement there is on males being hot than on females being hot to be on the show (Amy gets called "legs" - and that's not because she's got "ugly" legs).

Moffat's misogynic views in general doesn't improve how you recieve the sexist tones in the show.

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About the whole sexism issue, it seems to me that you're determined to find it in Doctor Who.

Yeah, the DC is only 2 to find a huge, trunked animal in the room so it wasn't that hard.

Sexism is everywhere (since we live in a sexist society), and while it can irritate me, it's not something I generally write posts about here because I'm quite used to it in some doses. This is, however, among the worst depictions of women I've seen since the 2005 reboot and part of a general trend towards getting worse and worse.

I haven't written posts about the sexism in DW with the 9th and 10th doctor, or in Firefly, or Caprica. This is not because there is none, but because it's not as much IN YER FACE (apart from sometimes on Firefly), in a show that has previously been far better than most shows on gender topics. Hey, they've even had characters that may not have been cis-gendered and not made a big deal out of it - very few shows has portrayed non-cis-gendered people as anything but comic relief. To see it really sink like this is what gets me.

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I don't really look at Oswin's end as primarily sacrificing herself for the Doctor. She can kill herself, and she can aid him at the same time.

Aaand when she said "go" the doctor could have said "after you!" and that would have been far better AND more in line with his character, regardless of what followed.

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Frankly, if someone cut away everything but my brain and a bit of flesh around it and nearly turned me into a genocidal pepper pot, I don't think I'd want to hang around exploring my "new life" much either.

The suicide of one of the episodes main characters is also something that should be made a major deal of. Look at the certain other episode that contains suicide - it's done in a far better way.

And note the "nearly" - she didn't turn genocidal and she actually kept being human on the inside.

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How exactly is Rory being a possessive, guiltripping asshat?
Exactly like this
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Oh, and LESS continuity? Can I try some of that crack?

Yeah. While DW always have had issues with continuity (being about time travel and all), since the reboot it has at least tried to have continuity when it came to the big things (don't interfere with your past self, Skaro/Gallifrey are gone and this is a big deal, you can't (easily) travel between dimensions and so on), nowadays it feels as if they just don't care at all anymore. I was a little annoyed when the Stable Time Loop was used in Blink, but it was okay because it felt like they skipped continuity for the sake of drama and it was an exception and an otherwise good episode... But since Moffat took over, it's just become a standard way of solving issues.

[url=http://fozmeadows.tumblr.com/post/30686644200/doctor-who-asylum-of-the-daleks]This is another good post on the subject.

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Re: Skarro

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Given the overarching plots, isn't it possible that Skarro being abandoned (not destroyed) is part of something bigger? What if the question that must not be answered is not something as simple as "The Doctor's name" but that something is erasing the Doctor's history and when the question is asked, it's the final undoing of the Doctor? I think that the priceline scanner not finding the Doctor (and the system scan not finding the TARDIS) is symptomatic of something bigger.


Matthew Morris wrote:

Re: Skarro

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Skaro isn't abandoned though. Apparently there's prison camps there. With humans. On Skaro. Yeah, nothing that the doctor should immediately question.

Haven't seen the latest episode yet, though. Was so put-off by AotD that I actually felt sick when thinking about next DW episode.

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But I still think it's narratively intentional--there is a reason for this and as weird and see-saw-ish as it's going to be, they're going somewhere character-development-wise. This is different again from Rose, who I really think they originally meant to write out for good and RTD went, "Ohnoes I miss my Mary Sue" and shoehorned a way to get her back (thus utterly cheapening the dramatic impact of her original departure).

Remember the Ponds were kidnapped by the Daleks, they are essentially still Ex-Companions at this point. They were alo Ex-Married as well, but that glitch seems to have worked out. They may well resume traveling now that they know that the married with children option is permanently closed for them.

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The Pond's final episode with The Doctor was filmed in New York.
From what I can tell, it's not going to be a happy ending for the TARDIS' first and most likely, last live in couple.

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stringburka wrote:
Matthew Morris wrote:

Re: Skarro

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I was unaware the camps were *on* Skarro. I thought she went there to meet/trap the Doctor.

Personally given the similiarities to the Parliment and the councils on Gallifrey, I was hoping that they'd 'set up shop' on the ruins of the Time Lords' homeworld.

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Matthew Morris wrote:
stringburka wrote:
Matthew Morris wrote:

Re: Skarro

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Given that Galifrey, like the Time Lords themselves, no longer exists, that would be a problem. The Doctor (either the 8th or the 9th) destroyed the whole kit and kaboodle with The Moment.
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DeathQuaker wrote:

Echoing Flashohol -- where can I legally watch this online in the U.S. (can't watch on BBC iPlayer, that's restricted to UK only)?

Ideal if it's a place I don't have to sign up for to use.

I think that the only legal option in the US is iTunes. It's not free, or streaming, but it's a cheap download.

The US DVD/Blu-Ray of Series 7 Part 1 (that's the first 5 episodes) is due November 13.

I discovered it's available on Amazon Instant Video. For under $2 per episode I'm now able to see it streaming online (plus I have download options), and that means I don't have to sign up for anything new (for me) like iTunes -- and I've now seen the 1st 2 eps! Yay!

And the show forced me to take back my "oh no Daleks" whining earlier--they actually made that episode good. Now if we can be without them for a little while still, though....


There is no continuity in Doctor Who any more (it's part of the continuity :-)). There wasn't much to start with and they didn't really try. Various Dalke origins. The Daleks being wiped out for good. Unit dating. Using continuity as an arguement is a complete non-starter.

As for the 'articles' to support your arguement - hardly an unbiased critique of the show. And the Bechdel seems a crude tool and the wrong one to apply to a show with a limited cast with a male central character. A failure is scored unless two women talk to each other about any thing other than a man. So a woman talking to a man about a non-male subject is a fail - isn't that also sexist? Implying that a woman talking talking to a man is about sex even when it isn't?

Also, Tardis crew are travellers, where the Doctor turns up and starts saving the day. Any coversation with the team from guest stars is going to be "who is this guy? Why should we do as he says, etc? It's almost impossible for the programme to pass this 'test'.

These blogs also point out the marriage of Amy and Rory as 'unhealthy'. That both of them think they love the other more. Fair enough - but I don't thing that their relationship is being flagged up as an ideal - it's pretty obvious that they have issues. And bad relationships make more drama.

Skaro. Destoyed in Rememberance of the Daleks. Brought back in War of the Daleks (wish I could forget reading that!). It's gone, it's back. I think that making a special episode over it's return would have seen as a bit of an in-joke. Especially, as mentioned, there is no continuity any more.

Daleks converting non-daleks. Well they've done it before in desperate circumstances. Davros was making Daleks out of dead/dying people in Revelation of the Daleks. They did in audio drama Time of the Daleks when they needed a pilot. The Emperor made daleks out of humans at the end of Series One and Davro made daleks out of himself and the end of Series Four. If Oswyn is genius level and the mad daleks want to escape they'd take what they can get.

Cheers
Mark

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