Chemlak |
From the first column, find the combination of abilities (Natural armour and DR) of the creature from the bestiary. The second column shows what type of DR it has after conversion to the armour as DR rules, and the third column shows what size creature can bypass that DR even if it couldn't normally overcome the DR.
Chemlak |
11/Magic plus 10/good and silver. Large creatures can overcome the 11/Magic. The target creature uses the better DR that applies against the attack.
So, an attack by a non-magical weapon is using the 11/Magic, while a Large opponent comes up gainst the 10/Good and Silver, regardless of the weapon it uses (unless the weapon is good and silver, in which case it ignores all of the DR on the target). An attacker with the [Good] subtype attacking with a non-magical silver or mithral weapon comes up against the 11/Magic. An attacker with a +1 Silver Holy weapon ignores all of the DR.
This DR is not additive, so there is no circumstance in which the creature is treated as having 21/<whatever>.
Alex_UNLIMITED |
If a creature has magical armor, natural armor, and DR, it takes the best form of the special protection provided by both its armor and its mix of DR and natural armor to its DR/armor. For instance, if a creature has natural armor and DR/magic and is wearing adamantine armor, that creature’s DR/armor functions as DR/—, and can be bypassed by Gargantuan or larger creatures, since the adamantine armor provides the best of the two damage reductions.
Sure? The best DR is DR 10/good and silver, so the creature have DR 21/good and silver. Right?
Chemlak |
For DR purposes "best" is generally defined as "the best which applies against the attack used". Since the table only applies DR/Armour to non-aligned and one specific material, the normal DR rules apply, so DR/Good and Silver is completely separate to the 11/Armour being provided by the creatures Natural Armour.
I'm still working through the rules to figure out how DR/- plus natural armour functions, but I suspect in your example it would be 2/- overcome by Collosal.
blue_the_wolf |
when pathfinder makes variant rules they are kind of saying, we dont really support these rules but here are some general guidelines you can base house rules on.
if pathfinder truely supported armor as DR correctly they would have to revamp the entire hit and damage mechanic of the game... which would probably require a re-evaluation of magic damage, hitpoints per level and to hit bonuses.
I LOVE armor as DR. it makes high dex characters play totaly different than high AC characters. my light armor rogue and my plate armor fighter would have entirely different feels beyond simple maneuverability.
but the game simply does not fully support it.
maybe in PF2.0
Olgamor |
11/Magic plus 10/good and silver. Large creatures can overcome the 11/Magic. The target creature uses the better DR that applies against the attack.
So, an attack by a non-magical weapon is using the 11/Magic, while a Large opponent comes up gainst the 10/Good and Silver, regardless of the weapon it uses (unless the weapon is good and silver, in which case it ignores all of the DR on the target). An attacker with the [Good] subtype attacking with a non-magical silver or mithral weapon comes up against the 11/Magic. An attacker with a +1 Silver Holy weapon ignores all of the DR.
This DR is not additive, so there is no circumstance in which the creature is treated as having 21/<whatever>.
RAW: "Unlike most forms of damage reduction, DR/armor stacks with other types of DR."
Olgamor |
And a creature with DR 1/- and +1 natural armor bonus, have DR 3/- that can be bypassed only bye colossal creatures, right?
Quote:A creature that already has DR/— or DR/epic increases its DR by an amount equal to its natural armor bonus.
I agree to DR 3/—: one from DR 1/—, one as DR/Armor from the +1 natural armor bonus, and one additional DR/Armor from the +1 natural armor bonus because of the tables footnote "A creature that already has DR/— or DR/epic increases its DR by an amount equal to its natural armor bonus."
Without the additional DR/Armor from the +1 natural armor bonus the footnote would't make any sense. Furthermore, it should come as a DR/Armor, because the footnote refers to the DR/Armor column.
Taja the Barbarian |
Chemlak wrote:RAW: "Unlike most forms of damage reduction, DR/armor stacks with other types of DR."11/Magic plus 10/good and silver. Large creatures can overcome the 11/Magic. The target creature uses the better DR that applies against the attack.
So, an attack by a non-magical weapon is using the 11/Magic, while a Large opponent comes up gainst the 10/Good and Silver, regardless of the weapon it uses (unless the weapon is good and silver, in which case it ignores all of the DR on the target). An attacker with the [Good] subtype attacking with a non-magical silver or mithral weapon comes up against the 11/Magic. An attacker with a +1 Silver Holy weapon ignores all of the DR.
This DR is not additive, so there is no circumstance in which the creature is treated as having 21/<whatever>.
You know this question is nearly 10 years old, right? I'm guessing they aren't eagerly waiting for an answer anymore...
Diego Rossi |
Olgamor wrote:You know this question is nearly 10 years old, right? I'm guessing they aren't eagerly waiting for an answer anymore...Chemlak wrote:RAW: "Unlike most forms of damage reduction, DR/armor stacks with other types of DR."11/Magic plus 10/good and silver. Large creatures can overcome the 11/Magic. The target creature uses the better DR that applies against the attack.
So, an attack by a non-magical weapon is using the 11/Magic, while a Large opponent comes up gainst the 10/Good and Silver, regardless of the weapon it uses (unless the weapon is good and silver, in which case it ignores all of the DR on the target). An attacker with the [Good] subtype attacking with a non-magical silver or mithral weapon comes up against the 11/Magic. An attacker with a +1 Silver Holy weapon ignores all of the DR.
This DR is not additive, so there is no circumstance in which the creature is treated as having 21/<whatever>.
They were holding their breath waiting for the answer, so the problem was resolved after a few minutes.
But now they have risen as undeads.;-)