Robot Killing Machines (or Humans are dumb.)


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Are you one of the many who think our species can't go extinct fast enough ?
Let's build wicked, cool Killing Robots to help us to our own doom. (Because they are sexy??)

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> Real Terminators <

History Channel's "That's Imposible" program points the artificial
intelligence's potential and shows today's technology by examples of
stronger, emotionless, faster, incessant killing machines.

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Seriously, can't we all just get along?

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Skynet in 2012!


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RESUME NORMAL DAILY PROTOCOLS, CITIZEN. CEASE ATTEMPTS TO ROUSE FEAR OR DISTRUST OF THE SYSTEM.

GLORY TO THE MANY.


One-Of-Many wrote:
RESUME NORMAL DAILY PROTOCOLS, CITIZEN. CEASE ATTEMPTS TO ROUSE FEAR OR DISTRUST OF THE SYSTEM.GLORY TO THE MANY.

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Dude. We will not be slaves, but we may all be dead.

Extinct.

No more.

*poof*.

How many more babies can extinct species have?

Zero.

None.

*Game Over*

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The Exchange

Grand Magus wrote:
Seriously, can't we all just get along?

[hug] Its OK Grand Magus...just close your eyes and accept the fate that the few who democracy the many have carved out for you and it will be over soon.[/wipes away tears at your inevitable extinction]


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Speaking as someone who majored in artificial intelligence (which they now call 'statistical machine learning' to be politically correct or something), it's about as likely as grey goo.

If you're afraid of grey goo, feel free to be afraid of human-hating robots.

Myself, I'm more afraid of AIs reaching a sufficiently advanced level that they can be as incompetent as humans rather than any malevolence.


Given the state of the world now, I would welcome the apocalypse.


JMD031 wrote:
Given the state of the world now, I would welcome the apocalypse.

I won't go as far as to say "welcome," but lets just say I won't be surprised.


Umbral Reaver wrote:

Speaking as someone who majored in artificial intelligence (which they now call 'statistical machine learning' to be politically correct or something), it's about as likely as grey goo.

If you're afraid of grey goo, feel free to be afraid of human-hating robots.

Myself, I'm more afraid of AIs reaching a sufficiently advanced level that they can be as incompetent as humans rather than any malevolence.

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You've missed my point. I am not bringing this up as a "technology thread"
(It doesn't matter if it's Terminators or remote-control drones or nuclear weapons.)

My point is, what is it about humans that some us even think that
building Autonomous Killing Machines is necessary. And some, I
have found, think it is cool & sexy. (wow. just wow.)

If your answer is along the lines of, "Come on, that's just the way
people are there is nothing we can do. Duh... duh... duh..."

Guess what ??? You have just signed up for exctinction.

OR,

"Oh, come on, it's not that bad. Plus it is cool. Duh... duh... duh..."

Ok. Will you let us use you and your family for Quality Assurance ???

It will be so cool! duh... duh... duh...

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Shadow Lodge

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I believe the core of the problem seems to be the mistaken believe that the History Channel is factually informative. While it might have been at one time, the noise to signal ratio is so high these days it generally isn't worth the effort to glean the individual grains of data from the chaff of teh stupid.

We'll all be dead from the water shortages and food wars before we perfect our own robotic doom. And then it'll just be the Earth and her favorite child, Plastic.

Also, Aliens.


EMP field.

If that doesn't stop your robots, then not-so-easily-hacked turret it is.

(By this, I mean EMP field BEFORE the turret. I wouldn't be stupid to include said turret in EMP field.)


My answer is that it's really quite hard to make thinking machines that are good at being peoplelike in their evaluation of stimuli. 'Expert systems' are easy, but they do specific tasks very well (such as hunt and kill targets that fall within certain detectable specifications). They can't have opinions or plans outside of their programming. They can't even learn to do these things, even if they may have the capacity to learn to do their specific task better.

Your Galactic Civilisations 2 AI will improve over time, learning to be a staggeringly difficult and clever opponent. It won't learn to do anything but play Galactic Civilisations 2.


Guh!


LISTEN TO THE CHAINED ENTITY. HER ADVICE IS WISE. CONTINUE STANDARD OPERATIONS.


Robots Attack

Shadow Lodge

If they turn on us we will just build more robots to fight the robots that are trying to kill us. And if those robots turn on us we will build more robots...

More factual than History Channel

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