Making sure I understand Brace


Rules Questions


Brace: If you use a readied action to set a brace weapon against a charge, you deal double damage on a successful hit against a charging character (see Combat).

So, Phalanx the fighter sets his glaive guisarm (which has brace and reach) against a charging orc.

The orc charges. As soon as the orc gets to a square Phalanx threatens, Phalanx gets his readied attack at double damage. If the orc survives and continues the charge, Phalanx gets his attack of opportunity at regular damage.

Silver Crusade

Well, correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think a reach weapon threatens the 5ft square around the person, only the outer squares.

EDIT: nevermind, I see what you're saying now. He enters the 10ft square, triggering the readied brace action. Then he leaves the 10ft square, provoking an attack of opportunity. Yeah, I don't see why this wouldn't work. One is a readied action and one is an opportunity attack.


Yes. As long as your readied attack doesn't stop the orc from continuing his charge, you get to make an AoO as usual. That's how I read it, too.


Indeed. You get both by all written rules...
And this is why it's a horrible idea to charge a phalanx...


I don't think that you get the double damage from the AoO (though you do from the readied brace attack).


Correct TBM... As per original post:

BigNorseWolf wrote:
If the orc survives and continues the charge, Phalanx gets his attack of opportunity at regular damage.


Of course, the messed up part is that if the Orc doesnt charge (just uses a regular move action) you do not get the readied action and will only get the AoO. Lesson here: never charge a person with a polearm.

- Gauss


Can't you see them set up for a brace?
Can you ready an action to brace if they charge so that it's a little more subtle?

Dark Archive

BltzKrg242 wrote:

Can't you see them set up for a brace?

Can you ready an action to brace if they charge so that it's a little more subtle?

I would allow it. But PF's timing rules are not very clear. Charging is a full-round action so it shouldn't allow a take-back, but plenty of GMs and players allow it.

Ultimately, brace is a good idea but it's more for mass combat than small encounters.

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