Troll limbo dance.


Rules Questions


Trolls don't die unless they are dealt fire or acid damage. They keep regenerating 5 hp every turn.

If players keep dealing damage to a troll how low can it's hit points go?

also as a side question when do they get there 5 hp back? at the beginning of there turn or the end?


The troll's hit points can go as low as the PCs continue to deal damage to it (or as low as the GM bothers to continue counting). There's no limit.

I do regeneration and fast healing at the beginning of a creature's turn.


As far as I know, you could kill a troll to negative infinity, and eventually it will fast heal back to positives. (With that in mind, that would take about a minute for 50 hp, 300 hp for an hour, and 7200 in a day.)

at the start of it's turn.


Are wrote:
The troll's hit points can go as low as the PCs continue to deal damage to it (or as low as the GM bothers to continue counting). There's no limit.

Does it say this somewhere, or does it just not give any limit.


"Those who commonly battle with trolls know to locate and burn any pieces after a fight, for even the smallest scrap of flesh can regrow a full-size troll given enough time." (bestiary description)

There may be a lower limit to the size of troll bit which can regenerate but it is beyond practical measurement. If a party wants to get a microscope and separate each cell then rupture it I might be forced to make a determination, but burning is usually much easier.


Karlgamer wrote:
Are wrote:
The troll's hit points can go as low as the PCs continue to deal damage to it (or as low as the GM bothers to continue counting). There's no limit.
Does it say this somewhere, or does it just not give any limit.

There simply isn't any limit.


Also, I think you can kill a troll by suffocation (for example, by immersing it in water long enough).

I must try this one day.


cnetarian wrote:

"Those who commonly battle with trolls know to locate and burn any pieces after a fight, for even the smallest scrap of flesh can regrow a full-size troll given enough time." (bestiary description)

There may be a lower limit to the size of troll bit which can regenerate but it is beyond practical measurement. If a party wants to get a microscope and separate each cell then rupture it I might be forced to make a determination, but burning is usually much easier.

lol that little scrap of troll fingernail or troll hair that got stuck in your sword pommel or in the lacings of your shoes starts to grow back into a troll. Imagine bringing it back to your home and not checking it for a couple of weeks.


Just gonna leave this here for fun exciting reading on how trolls are harder to kill than the Tarrasque.


Funny story here. I once had a player who's character decided to abuse this new found lore. His character was perpetually curious about such things, often in very morbid ways. For reference he was a Gnomish Barbarian Titan Mauler who used 2 bastard swords. He often licked the oddest things to see what they tasted like. He had a pretty low Int and this often got him into more trouble than it was worth with the rest of the party *facepalm*ing.

He decided after killing a troll that he wanted to know what it tasted like. He liked the taste. He was ecstatic. No one understood until he explained that he has found an endless supply of his new favorite food. He exemplified this by lopping off the head of the troll, tieing it's hair together and slinging it over his shoulder. He frequently would spoon out raw troll brain to eat.

He eventually got annoyed by having to frequently stop to tenderize his meat (keep the head at negative hitpoints) even though doing so was a pretty trivial matter with his relative damage output. Being a creative and industrious (if not horribly and morbidly mislead) he decided to cap off the neck of the skull. I ruled that as the flesh attempted to regrow through the cap that this caused damage to the troll such that it could never become positive HP. However, the insides of the skull would constantly regrow thus allowing for an unlimited "tasty" food source.

He also later decided to add a lantern to the inside of the skull pointed forward which made for an eerie jack-o-lantern. I often mused about what would happen should this troll head ever be allowed to regenerate into the positives. Ah... good times. Good times.


Trolls are easier than their description. Their regeneration is disabled for a round when struck with fire or acid, meaning they can be killed permanently for that round.


Lune wrote:
I often mused about what would happen should this troll head ever be allowed to regenerate into the positives.

Poor Jack'o'Lantroll would not be able to make the Gnome suffer as much as he did.

Anyway...

Karlgamer wrote:
If players keep dealing damage to a troll how low can it's hit points go?

To the point that you decide it's reduced to dust and damaging it becomes less feasible than it's worth.

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