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Grand Lodge

Tels wrote:
I just got done listening to the Podcast about Mythic Adventures and decided to record the revealed information here.

Tels, this was super helpful. Thank you!


Beckett wrote:
Munchkin Pathfinder?

pathfinder was already munchkin. Not that there is anything wrong with that.

Liberty's Edge

Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Charter Superscriber

I wonder, if there will be a magic item, which grands you a couple of mythic levels?!

You take this sword in hand and are suddenly bathed in bright light, making you feel...special!

I am really excited by the mythic rules, and can't wait to have them.
But I am still not sure, if I will use this book as a GM-book only...


Well, based off things that have been said, one of the ways of gaining Mythic Levels is by possessing certain items. Like a Artifact grants you additional power via Mythic Levels, but if you lose the Artifact for an extended period, the levels begin to fade.

Liberty's Edge

Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Charter Superscriber
Tels wrote:
Well, based off things that have been said, one of the ways of gaining Mythic Levels is by possessing certain items. Like a Artifact grants you additional power via Mythic Levels, but if you lose the Artifact for an extended period, the levels begin to fade.

Thats cool!

I wonder, how one could describe a mythic creature to the pcs when they happen to encounter one. It would be cool, if the pcs somehow know tha tthey face a special creature for the first time.

Liberty's Edge

Are there any signs the playtest is approaching?


Nipin wrote:
Are there any signs the playtest is approaching?

All I know is Jason said end of September(ish).

Im going crazy checking the site to see if any more info has been released lol.

Also, I hope the playtest gives us plenty of mythic monster options.


End of September or early October. Probably.

Sovereign Court

Jason said that he is getting close to finishing the mythic rules playtest document and that it will be awesome...this is his facebook page


This makes me happy. Both because of the nearing release and because I didn't realize Bulmahn had a fan page.


I want it so bad. My players are only level one, and I'm itching to give them mythic levels. Yet I know I should probably wait at least a bit... they're all new.


Jackissocool wrote:
I want it so bad. My players are only level one, and I'm itching to give them mythic levels. Yet I know I should probably wait at least a bit... they're all new.

Tiers. Those are called tiers. Lets not fall into level trap anymore...


Drejk wrote:
Jackissocool wrote:
I want it so bad. My players are only level one, and I'm itching to give them mythic levels. Yet I know I should probably wait at least a bit... they're all new.
Tiers. Those are called tiers. Lets not fall into level trap anymore...

L-E-V-E-L.


see wrote:
L-E-V-E-L.

Which is a Palindrome.

Sorry...couldn't resist....anyway...looking forward to the playtest!


Drejk wrote:
Jackissocool wrote:
I want it so bad. My players are only level one, and I'm itching to give them mythic levels. Yet I know I should probably wait at least a bit... they're all new.
Tiers. Those are called tiers. Lets not fall into level trap anymore...

Oh, poo. Who cares.


Merlin_47 wrote:
see wrote:
L-E-V-E-L.

Which is a Palindrome.

Sorry...couldn't resist....anyway...looking forward to the playtest!

You, sir, just made the missed-an-OotS-ref list.


Tels wrote:


•NPC Mythics are suspected to be restricted to ‘ages past’ like Thassilon, Azlanti etc.

This one I don't get. Is it suggesting that there are no mythic NPCs in Golarion's present? Because Geb, Tar-Baphon, Baba Yaga, Nex, Arazni, Artokus Kirran, and Kortash Khain would differ on that point. Nex and Tar-Baphon are missing and trapped respectively, but all the rest are very much active in the modern day.


Generic Villain wrote:
Tels wrote:


•NPC Mythics are suspected to be restricted to ‘ages past’ like Thassilon, Azlanti etc.
This one I don't get. Is it suggesting that there are no mythic NPCs in Golarion's present? Because Geb, Tar-Baphon, Baba Yaga, Nex, Arazni, Artokus Kirran, and Kortash Khain would differ on that point. Nex and Tar-Baphon are missing and trapped respectively, but all the rest are very much active in the modern day.

Some of the things they were saying weren't 'official rules' yet. But I got the gist that, typically, Mythic NPCs will be people from ages past. Like people who lived a long time ago, but may still be alive today, will have Mythic powers.

When I open up Inner Sea Magic, it gives a short blurb on each of the major players in the Inner Sea that have access to Magic. They include the characters class and level in that blurb.

Geb: LE male Garundi ghost necromancer 20+
Tar-Baphon: NE male Varisian lich necromancer 20+
Baba-Yaga: NE witch 20+, actual powers and race unknown
Nex: N male Garundi wizard 20+, missing
Arazni: NE female Taldan lich wizard 20+
Artokus Kirran: N male Garundi alchemist 20+
Kortash Khain: CE male ghoul sorcerer 5/cleric 5/mystic theurge 10+

Every single person you mention comes from a time of ages past and are still alive today, in some sort of form, or their fate is unknown. Each person also has a listed level of 20+, meaning they're levels are over 20. This left room for Paizo to publish their answer to Epic Rules, which come via Mythic Rules.

Every person you mentioned, therefore, would qualify as Mythic NPCs according to what was said in the Pod Cast. However, that doesn't explicitly rule out more modern people from achieving Mythic status, but that, as a general rule, NPCs with Mythic Tiers will, typically, be NPCs that hail from ages past, like Tar-Baphon, like the Runelords, like Arazni, like the Jatembe.

A good example of a modern Mythic is Elvanna, the ruler of Irrisen and daughter of Baba-Yaga. Every hundred years, Baba-Yaga returns to Golarion to take the current ruler and her children, with her on her travels through the planes. She then appoints a new ruler of Irrisen, and may elevate that person into the Mythic Realms. So Elvanna is a fairly recent person, who is listed as 20+, which means she's probably the most recent Mythic person on Golarion.

The upcoming AP, Wrath of the Righteous, which will be released next year, will be focused around the Mythic Rules, so there will be more people created in that AP as well.

For more information, I'd have to just say, be patient. I, personally, estimate the Playtest will be out within the next 10 days. The Playtest should have more info at that time.


Tels wrote:
Info

Thanks much for all the info. First, I understand you're going off of a podcast and none of this is official. Second, I didn't mention Elvanna for one reason:

spoiler:
I have a strong suspicion she will be the BBEG of Reign of Winter, and if that's the case, I suspect she'll be demoted from a Witch 20+ (a mythic Witch in other words) to a non-mythic Witch 20. I think Elvanna was jotted down as 20+ in the first place because Ilivorr Karanasi, Elvanna's granddaughter, is herself a 20th-level witch as shown in the module the Witchwar Legacy. Thus, I'm guessing the devs felt obliged to make Elvanna tougher than her granddaughter - which only makes sense really. But that's pure speculation and besides the point.

As for Tar-Baphon, according to Rule of Fear he arose as a lich 1,509 years ago. While that's certainly a long time, it's not what I would call the ancient past. This is again, however, besides the point.

My point then, is I hope there are at least a few modern mythic NPCs hanging around Golarion. I know the powers that be want to avoid a Forgotten Realms situation in which demigod-like wizards are lurking around every corner. That's fine, and I certainly don't want that either. I even find Greyhawk to be a bit overpowered, what with your Mordenkainens and Tensers and such.

What I would love to see is a companion to Mythic Adventures, something like Inner Sea Mythic. Details on mythic threats, NPCs, treasures, and monsters of the Inner Sea Region.


Keep in mind, that Mythic Rules will be able to start as early as level 1. You can be a level 1 Fighter and a 1st Tier Mythic. You will be equal in power to a 2nd level character.

I don't mind having Mythic Creatures around Golarion, because they can be of any range, any CR, unlike things like Epic Rules, where you can only be Epic once you go Above 20.

So you could, now with Mythic, craft stories like, Beowolf and Grendel, with something like a Mythic Dire Wolf and a Mythic Barbarian. Sure, it won't fit exactly, but people may recognize it, and think, "That's Bad***" which is one of the best joys of telling a story.

I myself plan to incorporate Mythic Rules into a custom story I'd like to run at some point that involves, Mythological figures drawing from Norse, Celtic, Greek, and Chinese Mythologies. It would be a campaign possibly going above 20th level, into the very depths of Abaddon to challenge and slay Charon himself. Though his manipulations won't be revealed until the later half of the story.


brock, no the other one... wrote:

Overlay rules... not sure how I feel about this. I enjoyed being able to play a 3.5 character past 20th but the game did increasingly break down. This gives the chance of a more 'epic' style of play without breaking the mechanics. I'm 'hmmm', with a tentative 'ooh' and a side of 'cool'.

All based on JBE's comments via twitter, so nothing solid yet.

Edit: Ok, this is worth a huzzah

@JonBrazerEnt wrote:
JonBrazerEnt: #pathfinder #GenCon will also have items that grow in power with you.
Huzzah!

Huzzah, indeed, I love those kind of weapons. I love to make enemies that will sunder the crap outta them too. Muhahaha!

Grand Lodge

Pathfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber
Jackissocool wrote:
I want it so bad. My players are only level one, and I'm itching to give them mythic levels. Yet I know I should probably wait at least a bit... they're all new.

It's probably best that you get them mastering the basic game before you try them with god level stuff.


Any updates on the playtest document?


The Grand User wrote:
Any updates on the playtest document?

Yes there is.

James Jacobs wrote:
DJEternalDarkness wrote:
So, not to be a bug, but any update on the Mythic playtest?
The last update was, in case you missed it, the Mythic Playtest will be starting once Jason gets back from Italy at some point during the second week of November.


Tels wrote:
The Grand User wrote:
Any updates on the playtest document?

Yes there is.

James Jacobs wrote:
DJEternalDarkness wrote:
So, not to be a bug, but any update on the Mythic playtest?
The last update was, in case you missed it, the Mythic Playtest will be starting once Jason gets back from Italy at some point during the second week of November.

Thanks

Silver Crusade

14 November 2012 you can download the playtest document! Check the
'news'.

Belnor.

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