Monk / Barbarian


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Sczarni

I know there is a way to do this, but I can't remember where I saw it...can someone point me in the right direction?


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Martial Artist archetype (UC). The monk-barian is DA BOMB!

Also, Dragon Style wants to have a word with you.


Be a monk. Become chaotic. Be a Barbarian.

Ex-monks don't lose any class feature, IIRC. But Barbarians who cease to be Chaotic can't rage.


I think you want the martial artist archetype.

Sczarni

Eben TheQuiet wrote:

Martial Artist archetype (UC). The monk-barian is DA BOMB!

Also, Dragon Style wants to have a word with you.

Thats what I was looking for! Thanks! Now to just figure out how to turn this idea into a sunder machine...

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Barbarian/Martial Artist = win, more so when you hit Martial Artist 5 to be immune to fatigue. At that point, you can use Expose Weakness, find it, then RAAAAAGE for Strength boost, punch your target repeatedly, then turn it off without any penalties. Rinse and repeat.

For aasimars, I believe there's a trait in Blood of Angels that allowed monks of NG and CG alignments as well, so that's a different route to take.

EDIT: For the sunder monster, go half-orc barbarian/martial artist. Take the Gatecrasher alternate racial trait (+2 to sunder) and make sure to get Destroyer's Blessing to regain rage rounds when sundering. The sweetness occurs when you hit Martial Artist 5 so you can be immune to fatigue. You can Expose Weakness something, if you succeed, then rage and flurry your target and throw in some sunder attempts with your flurry (which you're allowed to do). Turn off rage after your strike so you won't suffer the rage penalties and regain the rage round when the sunder hits. Rinse and repeat.

Sczarni

Black Powder Chocobo wrote:

Barbarian/Martial Artist = win, more so when you hit Martial Artist 5 to be immune to fatigue. At that point, you can use Expose Weakness, find it, then RAAAAAGE for Strength boost, punch your target repeatedly, then turn it off without any penalties. Rinse and repeat.

For aasimars, I believe there's a trait in Blood of Angels that allowed monks of NG and CG alignments as well, so that's a different route to take.

Hmmm you wouldn't know that trait would you?


ossian666 wrote:
Black Powder Chocobo wrote:

Barbarian/Martial Artist = win, more so when you hit Martial Artist 5 to be immune to fatigue. At that point, you can use Expose Weakness, find it, then RAAAAAGE for Strength boost, punch your target repeatedly, then turn it off without any penalties. Rinse and repeat.

For aasimars, I believe there's a trait in Blood of Angels that allowed monks of NG and CG alignments as well, so that's a different route to take.

Hmmm you wouldn't know that trait would you?

A quick search in HeroLab says it's Enlightened Warrior.

Edit: But it only allows you to be TN or NG. And Barbarians must be Chaotic.


Lemmy wrote:
ossian666 wrote:
Black Powder Chocobo wrote:

Barbarian/Martial Artist = win, more so when you hit Martial Artist 5 to be immune to fatigue. At that point, you can use Expose Weakness, find it, then RAAAAAGE for Strength boost, punch your target repeatedly, then turn it off without any penalties. Rinse and repeat.

For aasimars, I believe there's a trait in Blood of Angels that allowed monks of NG and CG alignments as well, so that's a different route to take.

Hmmm you wouldn't know that trait would you?

A quick search in HeroLab says it's Enlightened Warrior.

Edit: But it only allows you to be TN or NG. And Barbarians must be Chaotic.

Barbarians are only restricted to any non-lawful.

Sczarni

No Barbarians are ANY nonlawful. =b

Edit: Damn Ninja'd


I still think the strongest is going Martial Artist 5 to get fatigue immunity. :)

Sczarni

Dang I can't find Enlightened Warrior in the SRD...I may have to make a pit stop at my local gaming store and pick up that book...

Sczarni

Eben TheQuiet wrote:
I still think the strongest is going Martial Artist 5 to get fatigue immunity. :)

And I may do that, but I atleast want to see what that other option looks like. =b


ossian666 wrote:

No Barbarians are ANY nonlawful. =b

Edit: Damn Ninja'd

Errr... I knew that... I was only... uh... testing you guys! Yeah! That's it! I was testing you! And you passed! Congratulations...

*rolls Bluff check*
*walks away whistling and pretending this never happened*

God, I need some sleep...

Sczarni

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Sense Motive: 1d20 + 6 ⇒ (15) + 6 = 21


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Bluff 1d20 + 6 ⇒ (18) + 6 = 24


lol

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There is also an alternate aasimar race/trait in Blood of Angels that allows you to play a nonlawful monk, so you could combo barbarian/monk without giving up your ki abilities. Granted, you'd have to be an aasimar, but the choice is there.


Is that trait a "Pick two traits" trait, or are they part of the asimar racial stat block? Cause if it's a trait trait, you can be adopted.

Sczarni

I don't know...it was brought up earlier too but no one will quote me the passage and I can't find the trait on SRD.


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It's a "pick two traits" trait. Like, those half-feats you get at character creation.

It's a trait (Race) , (which is a trait that only members of a certain race can choose), not a racial trait (which is a characteristic of a race, like humans' Extra Feat and elves' Elven Magic).

So Adopted works.

I couldn't find it on the SRD either.


Do they have the tiefling traits from blood of fiends? That block of alternate devil parentage lists two "traits" avaiable to said tieflings, as well as a list of like 10 other traits in the end of the book.

It's the same for asimars, but, i'm still not sure if they are adoptable traits, or stat block traits... they don't say they replace any other existing racial traits, but are traits.

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The variant aasimar race Idyllkin:

Idyllkin:
Agathion-Blooded (Idyllkin)
Idyllkin possess bestial aspects and calm dispositions, and often act as peaceful intermediaries between lawful and chaotic agents of good.

Ancestry Agathion

Typical Alignment Ng

Ability Modifiers +2 Con, +2 Cha

Alternate Skill Modifiers Handle Animal, Survival

Alternate Spell-Like Ability Idyllkin gain summon nature’s ally II as a spell-like ability.


Gain the option to take a trait that allows them to play monks who are neutral or neutral good in alignment. It looks like that trait has not been added to d20pfsrd yet, which is probably why you can't find it osian. If you have the book available, it's listed under the variant race description, otherwise it looks like it hasn't made it to any of the usual online reference sources yet.

Sczarni

Thats pretty good...wish the stats synergized better, but hey that dump stat won't look like a dump stat after the +2 bump.

Then you STILL take Martial Artist and have some fun as an Aasimar.

I will pick up that book this week from the book store and see what I can build.


Hunger Spawn tiefling adopted by Idyllkin... 50ft charges! Maybe master of many styles for janni and dragon style.


The Ordered Rage ability of the Maenad allows them to be Lawful Barbarians.

Sczarni

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Eh its gotta be Paizo content.

Sczarni

thoynan wrote:

Hunger Spawn tiefling adopted by Idyllkin... 50ft charges! Maybe master of many styles for janni and dragon style.

All you are doing is making me wish I bought the Aasimar and Tiefling books! Kinda lame it wasn't in the ARG.

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ossian666 wrote:
thoynan wrote:

Hunger Spawn tiefling adopted by Idyllkin... 50ft charges! Maybe master of many styles for janni and dragon style.

All you are doing is making me wish I bought the Aasimar and Tiefling books! Kinda lame it wasn't in the ARG.

The Blood of Angels/Fiends books are actually worth the purchase. Fiends was a little bit better all around, but the race supplements are solid and don't really overlap the ARG much at all. In fact, having the ARG and race books together open up some super sweet options.

Like holy, winged, metal-skinned barbarian/monks :)


You can get the .pdf or, like it's my case, the HeroLab data pack.

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Lemmy wrote:

You can get the .pdf or, like it's my case, the HeroLab data pack.

Much as I love .pdf's and HeroLab, there's a deep, primal part of me that knows that when the nuclear apocalypse hits, my books will still work while we're hiding in the basement trying to amuse ourselves until daylight chases off the giant radioactive centipedes, and your .pdf's will be a memory of better times...


Ssalarn wrote:
Much as I love .pdf's and HeroLab, there's a deep, primal part of me that knows that when the nuclear apocalypse hits, my books will still work while we're hiding in the basement trying to amuse ourselves until daylight chases off the giant radioactive centipedes, and your .pdf's will be a memory of better times...

That what I tell my friend when she asks why I spend so much money on books and then buy them again for HeroLab. ^^


yeah, hunger spawn are +2 str/wis, -2 cha, and alter self SLA. Blood ofs are good books, and with the ARG, grand books, esp with the new changes to PFS. Swap the SLA for claws or a bite, get some nat armor, 10ft charge speed, AND a prehensitle tail.

Now to find a way to get pounce, outside carrying around alot of those 1k extra move action shirts haha.

Sczarni

Ssalarn wrote:
Lemmy wrote:

You can get the .pdf or, like it's my case, the HeroLab data pack.

Much as I love .pdf's and HeroLab, there's a deep, primal part of me that knows that when the nuclear apocalypse hits, my books will still work while we're hiding in the basement trying to amuse ourselves until daylight chases off the giant radioactive centipedes, and your .pdf's will be a memory of better times...

Doubtful...the guys that put these books together stink...most paperbacks (APs and such) that I buy barely make it through 1 read through. My CoT Infernal Syndrome only made it to page 6 before half the book fell out...now I have a folder with loose pages in it.

Not that I don't own all my books in print copy though...

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Yep Enlightened Warrior seems like a cool trait that opens many possibilities. Too bad it's not PFS legal :( Looks like my Dwarven Raging Drunk/Drunken Monk will have to be a simple Drunken Monk


ossian666 wrote:
Eh its gotta be Paizo content.

A sad thing, considering how amazing Dreamscarred Press is. I'd put them on par with Paizo, actually.


Hmm, yeah the alternates are approved, but does that not include those traits? It says everythings from pages x to y are approved, hope that includes traits for those types.

Drunk eh? How about a grog swilling buccanner drunken brute drunken fist! Traits would be adopted Enlightend warrior and that drinking as swift action trait.

Sczarni

Azten wrote:
ossian666 wrote:
Eh its gotta be Paizo content.
A sad thing, considering how amazing Dreamscarred Press is. I'd put them on par with Paizo, actually.

I have some Dreamscarred and I like them as writers, but the guy running is a new GM and I don't want to over complicate things with books he doesn't have access to...


Ah, not a sad thing then, just a considerate one. Carry on. :)


yay, the PFS rules were updated to carry those other traits, hello barb monk!

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