paizo.com Recent Posts in The Undead Lord Archetypepaizo.com Recent Posts in The Undead Lord Archetype2012-07-31T05:10:06Z2012-07-31T05:10:06ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: The Undead Lord Archetyperhalwarlockhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2okio?The-Undead-Lord-Archetype#192012-08-07T20:50:47Z2012-08-07T20:50:47Z<p>I finally am able to start playing in PFS, and they take out the class/archetype I wanted to play the most. Ah, well.</p>I finally am able to start playing in PFS, and they take out the class/archetype I wanted to play the most. Ah, well.rhalwarlock2012-08-07T20:50:47ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: The Undead Lord Archetypeteribithia9https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2okio?The-Undead-Lord-Archetype#182012-08-07T20:34:05Z2012-08-07T20:34:05Z<p>I thought about going Oracle of Bones, but I think it's close enough to the Undead Lord Cleric it would probably irritate me just a little every time I played it, thinking about how close I was to what I originally designed...but not quite there.</p>
<p>So, since I'm lucky enough to have my Undead Lord still be 1st level, I think I'm going to combine my Undead Lord rebuild with a full 1st level character rebuild and go a completely unrelated direction. I'm thinking Annabel will become a bard/oracle of lore instead and poor Edgar will just fade away....</p>I thought about going Oracle of Bones, but I think it's close enough to the Undead Lord Cleric it would probably irritate me just a little every time I played it, thinking about how close I was to what I originally designed...but not quite there.
So, since I'm lucky enough to have my Undead Lord still be 1st level, I think I'm going to combine my Undead Lord rebuild with a full 1st level character rebuild and go a completely unrelated direction. I'm thinking Annabel will become a bard/oracle...teribithia92012-08-07T20:34:05ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: The Undead Lord ArchetypeSteghttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2okio?The-Undead-Lord-Archetype#172012-08-07T15:42:10Z2012-08-07T15:42:10Z<p>Hailing from Oak Creek, a small town just outside the occasional borders of Uringen, my brother and I grew up hunting, fishing, and generally helping out the town elders. He was always better at it than I was, but we had a pact to look out for each other, and Abraham vowed to always stay by my side and protect me. Things turned bleak for our little town, when a band of hobgoblin slavers descended from Embeth Forest. We would have all fallen, if not for the Lord of the Waterways who called Abraham to service, to defend our people, and defeat the invaders. When Abraham fell in battle, Hanspur granted me the ability to keep our oath, raising my brother and curing his injuries, so that we could save our village and let our people stay free. When we drove off the goblinoid forces, Abraham and I took to traveling, exploring the riverways and paths we had not previously thought to take. We adventured for a time, and life was good, even if others couldn't understand our bond. We defended those who could not defend themselves, and joined an organization that seemed to embrace our goals. </p>
<p>On the Second of Gozran, everything changed. While recovering from a mission, we were attacked in our quarters. A finely dressed man wearing a golden pointed helm that covered his eyes gained access to our room, and before I could act, struck Abraham down, and blasted him with rays of sickly yellow light, obliterating his remains beyond even my ability to restore. He then turned his unnatural powers on me, severing my connection to the sacred waters and the will of my lord. Powerless, I wept over the dust and broken bones that was all that remained of my brother. My vow was broken, and as an Oathbreaker I no longer deserved to live. I had only one thing left to me as that man swept out of my chamber: rage. Rage at the injustice, rage at those with power who refuse to use it, those who restrict the freedoms all men should have, those who hold court over their fellow man. </p>
<p>And then I heard it, a tinny whispering voice, contorted by strange echoes, telling me that all is not lost. Abraham can be returned, if only for a time. The power could be mine to keep my oath, if only I embraced what was offered. The price? That I use this power to send more souls to the boneyard, to hasten the purge of all things. I accepted the bargain. I collected the bones of my brother, and set off to begin my work. The same organization for whom I aided the innocent would have just as much use for one who can consign their enemies to oblivion. We would serve the power, we would serve the lodge, and one day we might find the man who caused all this. And on that day, I would take from him what he took from me. And on that day, like before, Abraham would be by my side. </p>
<p><span class=messageboard-ooc>Cane, the Undead Lord has been reborn as an Oracle of Bones. His alignment has changed from Chaotic Good to Chaotic Neutral, reflecting his focus changing from helping the needy to destroying the wicked. Abraham the corpse companion can now only remain for a few short rounds each day. The Silver Crusade has lost a follower, and Cheliax has gained one.</span></p>Hailing from Oak Creek, a small town just outside the occasional borders of Uringen, my brother and I grew up hunting, fishing, and generally helping out the town elders. He was always better at it than I was, but we had a pact to look out for each other, and Abraham vowed to always stay by my side and protect me. Things turned bleak for our little town, when a band of hobgoblin slavers descended from Embeth Forest. We would have all fallen, if not for the Lord of the Waterways who called...Steg2012-08-07T15:42:10ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: The Undead Lord ArchetypeEric Clingenpeelhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2okio?The-Undead-Lord-Archetype#162012-08-07T15:30:11Z2012-08-07T15:30:11Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">J-Bone wrote:</div><blockquote><p> So now that we've been banned from digging up our beloved companions what are you guys going to do with your formerly Undead Lords?</p>
<p>I think Im going to go split class with Cleric and Summoner. That way I can still keep a companion, change the story so Im not digging up bodies for a Corpse Companion, more like having a spirit that works with me. Still going with the negative channeling and sticking with Ugathoa for the Goddess. </p>
<p></blockquote><p>Huh, and considering you can choose Undead Appearance, its actually a good work around to rebuilding your Undead Lord.J-Bone wrote:So now that we've been banned from digging up our beloved companions what are you guys going to do with your formerly Undead Lords?
I think Im going to go split class with Cleric and Summoner. That way I can still keep a companion, change the story so Im not digging up bodies for a Corpse Companion, more like having a spirit that works with me. Still going with the negative channeling and sticking with Ugathoa for the Goddess.
Huh, and considering you can choose Undead...Eric Clingenpeel2012-08-07T15:30:11ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: The Undead Lord ArchetypeJ-Bone (alias of Itzeebitzee)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2okio?The-Undead-Lord-Archetype#152012-08-07T14:40:14Z2012-08-07T14:40:14Z<p>So now that we've been banned from digging up our beloved companions what are you guys going to do with your formerly Undead Lords?</p>
<p>I think Im going to go split class with Cleric and Summoner. That way I can still keep a companion, change the story so Im not digging up bodies for a Corpse Companion, more like having a spirit that works with me. Still going with the negative channeling and sticking with Ugathoa for the Goddess.</p>So now that we've been banned from digging up our beloved companions what are you guys going to do with your formerly Undead Lords?
I think Im going to go split class with Cleric and Summoner. That way I can still keep a companion, change the story so Im not digging up bodies for a Corpse Companion, more like having a spirit that works with me. Still going with the negative channeling and sticking with Ugathoa for the Goddess.J-Bone (alias of Itzeebitzee)2012-08-07T14:40:14ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: The Undead Lord ArchetypeRobbgobbhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2okio?The-Undead-Lord-Archetype#142012-08-05T09:04:22Z2012-08-05T09:04:22Z<p>From reading the Archetype</p>
<p><b>A cleric cannot take the undead lord archetype unless her deity's portfolio includes the Death domain or a similar domain that promotes undeath. An undead lord has the following class features.</p>
<p>Death Magic: An undead lord must select the Death domain (and the Undead subdomain, if available in the campaign). </b></p>
<p>So because there are gods with Undead domain then all the others are disallowed now? If that is true then wish they would have made it <b>(Undead Lord must take Undead subdomain if allowed in campaign.) </b></p>From reading the Archetype
A cleric cannot take the undead lord archetype unless her deity's portfolio includes the Death domain or a similar domain that promotes undeath. An undead lord has the following class features.
Death Magic: An undead lord must select the Death domain (and the Undead subdomain, if available in the campaign).
So because there are gods with Undead domain then all the others are disallowed now? If that is true then wish they would have made it (Undead Lord must take...Robbgobb2012-08-05T09:04:22ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: The Undead Lord Archetypeteribithia9https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2okio?The-Undead-Lord-Archetype#132012-08-04T23:01:13Z2012-08-04T23:01:13Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">kinevon wrote:</div><blockquote><p> Mine is also Grand Lodge, and he just made second level. Holding off on playing himn again until the 1st level rebuild rules come out, so I can trade in his <i>Detect Undead</i> ability for losing his light sensitivity...</p>
<p>To answer the OP's question, since the Undead Lord template is for a member of the Cleric class, you have to take as your Deity someone who has the Undeath Domain as part of their portfolio. As far as I have been able to discover, the only Golarion (and PFS legal) deities who have that domain are all some flavor of evil.</p>
<p>Note that Pharasma, while she has the Death domain, would not, by canon, allow any of her clerics to become Undead Lords. Indead, if you check teh Additional Resources page, you will find a link to a Paizo Blog that gives a set of alternate spells for her clerics who have the Death domain.</p>
<p>Another thing to note, as I have mentioned in a couple of other threads, due to how the Cleric Aura is written, and the limited list of deities available in PFS who are possible for Undead Lords to choose from, it is almost certain that any Undead Lord will detect as evil. </blockquote><p>Yes, mine has two chronicles. Holding off on playing her for the same reason. :)kinevon wrote:Mine is also Grand Lodge, and he just made second level. Holding off on playing himn again until the 1st level rebuild rules come out, so I can trade in his Detect Undead ability for losing his light sensitivity...
To answer the OP's question, since the Undead Lord template is for a member of the Cleric class, you have to take as your Deity someone who has the Undeath Domain as part of their portfolio. As far as I have been able to discover, the only Golarion (and PFS legal)...teribithia92012-08-04T23:01:13ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: The Undead Lord Archetyperhalwarlockhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2okio?The-Undead-Lord-Archetype#122012-08-04T22:57:54Z2012-08-04T22:57:54Z<p>Anyone thought of using Fumeiyoshi as the deity for an Undead Lord? What would be your opinions about it?</p>Anyone thought of using Fumeiyoshi as the deity for an Undead Lord? What would be your opinions about it?rhalwarlock2012-08-04T22:57:54ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: The Undead Lord Archetypekinevonhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2okio?The-Undead-Lord-Archetype#112012-08-02T18:30:41Z2012-08-02T18:30:41Z<p>Mine is also Grand Lodge, and he just made second level. Holding off on playing himn again until the 1st level rebuild rules come out, so I can trade in his <i>Detect Undead</i> ability for losing his light sensitivity...</p>
<p>To answer the OP's question, since the Undead Lord template is for a member of the Cleric class, you have to take as your Deity someone who has the Undeath Domain as part of their portfolio. As far as I have been able to discover, the only Golarion (and PFS legal) deities who have that domain are all some flavor of evil.</p>
<p>Note that Pharasma, while she has the Death domain, would not, by canon, allow any of her clerics to become Undead Lords. Indead, if you check teh Additional Resources page, you will find a link to a Paizo Blog that gives a set of alternate spells for her clerics who have the Death domain.</p>
<p>Another thing to note, as I have mentioned in a couple of other threads, due to how the Cleric Aura is written, and the limited list of deities available in PFS who are possible for Undead Lords to choose from, it is almost certain that any Undead Lord will detect as evil.</p>Mine is also Grand Lodge, and he just made second level. Holding off on playing himn again until the 1st level rebuild rules come out, so I can trade in his Detect Undead ability for losing his light sensitivity...
To answer the OP's question, since the Undead Lord template is for a member of the Cleric class, you have to take as your Deity someone who has the Undeath Domain as part of their portfolio. As far as I have been able to discover, the only Golarion (and PFS legal) deities who have...kinevon2012-08-02T18:30:41ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: The Undead Lord Archetypeteribithia9https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2okio?The-Undead-Lord-Archetype#102012-08-02T15:29:57Z2012-08-02T15:29:57Z<p>Mine is Grand Lodge, but I've only gotten to play her once.</p>Mine is Grand Lodge, but I've only gotten to play her once.teribithia92012-08-02T15:29:57ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: The Undead Lord ArchetypeFurious Kenderhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2okio?The-Undead-Lord-Archetype#92012-08-02T15:17:08Z2012-08-02T15:17:08Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">rhalwarlock wrote:</div><blockquote> For those that play an Undead Lord what faction are you apart of? </blockquote><p>Osirion would fit like a glove. I have a necromancer witch from geb that is very fun to play.rhalwarlock wrote:For those that play an Undead Lord what faction are you apart of?
Osirion would fit like a glove. I have a necromancer witch from geb that is very fun to play.Furious Kender2012-08-02T15:17:08ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: The Undead Lord ArchetypeChris Mortika (RPG Superstar 2010 Top 16)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2okio?The-Undead-Lord-Archetype#82012-08-02T15:07:36Z2012-08-02T15:07:36Z<p>So far, Sczarni, because being a dhampyr undead lord isn't creepy enough, and I was looking for a faction that could riff off an "eastern European / Balkans" accent. The thematic conventions of a vampire / gypsy link. </p>
<p>But Cadavrul is finding that he cares little for the sorts of missions his old friends are assigning him. He may decide to move his interests elsewhere. Most likely, Osirion.</p>So far, Sczarni, because being a dhampyr undead lord isn't creepy enough, and I was looking for a faction that could riff off an "eastern European / Balkans" accent. The thematic conventions of a vampire / gypsy link.
But Cadavrul is finding that he cares little for the sorts of missions his old friends are assigning him. He may decide to move his interests elsewhere. Most likely, Osirion.Chris Mortika (RPG Superstar 2010 Top 16)2012-08-02T15:07:36ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: The Undead Lord ArchetypeJ-Bone (alias of Itzeebitzee)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2okio?The-Undead-Lord-Archetype#72012-08-02T12:53:53Z2012-08-02T12:53:53Z<p>Cheliax... those mission often have a creepy side that fits.</p>Cheliax... those mission often have a creepy side that fits.J-Bone (alias of Itzeebitzee)2012-08-02T12:53:53ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: The Undead Lord Archetyperhalwarlockhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2okio?The-Undead-Lord-Archetype#62012-08-02T07:27:47Z2012-08-02T07:27:47Z<p>For those that play an Undead Lord what faction are you apart of?</p>For those that play an Undead Lord what faction are you apart of?rhalwarlock2012-08-02T07:27:47ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: The Undead Lord ArchetypeJ-Bone (alias of Itzeebitzee)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2okio?The-Undead-Lord-Archetype#52012-08-01T15:00:53Z2012-08-01T15:00:53Z<p>I love my Undead Lord. I play him as a person trying to cure death RP him as Igor from Young Frankenstein. When I brought him to a Con earlier this summer he was a complete hit at every table I played him at.</p>I love my Undead Lord. I play him as a person trying to cure death RP him as Igor from Young Frankenstein. When I brought him to a Con earlier this summer he was a complete hit at every table I played him at.J-Bone (alias of Itzeebitzee)2012-08-01T15:00:53ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: The Undead Lord ArchetypeChris Mortika (RPG Superstar 2010 Top 16)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2okio?The-Undead-Lord-Archetype#42012-08-01T12:35:59Z2012-08-01T12:35:59Z<p>Nope. None of the archetypes are restricted like that.</p>Nope. None of the archetypes are restricted like that.Chris Mortika (RPG Superstar 2010 Top 16)2012-08-01T12:35:59ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: The Undead Lord Archetyperhalwarlockhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2okio?The-Undead-Lord-Archetype#32012-08-01T11:27:00Z2012-08-01T11:27:00Z<p>I am glad to see that the Undead Lord Archetype is allowed. However, is it one that is only allowed once you get it from playing a certain scenario (like some races are)?</p>I am glad to see that the Undead Lord Archetype is allowed. However, is it one that is only allowed once you get it from playing a certain scenario (like some races are)?rhalwarlock2012-08-01T11:27:00ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: The Undead Lord ArchetypeCadavrul (alias of Chris Mortika, RPG Superstar 2010 Top 16)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2okio?The-Undead-Lord-Archetype#22012-08-02T15:20:08Z2012-07-31T11:32:19Z<p>Urgathoa was the mortal woman who, when faced with death and the judgement of Pharasma, decided she'd have none of that, walked back to the land of the living, and became the lady of the undead. If you ask me, she's the embodiment of self-determination and will.</p>
<p>She's taken the portfolio of gluttony, but that's just another name for appetite. She's the goddess of knowing what you want in life, and the commitment to pursue it to your utmost, whatever the cost.</p>
<p>I've come to respect that. It's not Good, certainly, not the way Shelyn is Good, and the Pallid Princess herself technically clocks in as Evil, but that determination, that hunger? Those are neither good nor evil, and I think more people could be brought into her fold, if they understood that.</p>
<p>I stand before you as one of her Undead Lords. Please, good people, resume your seats; the doors are barred from the other side to give me a chance to explain myself.</p>
<p>The Osirians know the the walking dead are merely our own parents, grandparents, and honored ancestors. The simplest, the unminded menials, are still to be respected as creatures that serve in their place when commanded by the living. </p>
<p>The more powerful, those who have their minds restored as well, are fonts of ancient wisdom, and testaments to the results of dedication. We should either engage them, respect them from a distance, or oppose their harshest entreaties, as we see fit. If we follow the example Urgathoa, we decide what <b>we</b> want to do, and we turn forth to do it with all our strength.</p>Urgathoa was the mortal woman who, when faced with death and the judgement of Pharasma, decided she'd have none of that, walked back to the land of the living, and became the lady of the undead. If you ask me, she's the embodiment of self-determination and will.
She's taken the portfolio of gluttony, but that's just another name for appetite. She's the goddess of knowing what you want in life, and the commitment to pursue it to your utmost, whatever the cost.
I've come to respect that. It's...Cadavrul (alias of Chris Mortika, RPG Superstar 2010 Top 16)2012-07-31T11:32:19ZForums: Pathfinder Society: The Undead Lord ArchetypeMC0101010https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2okio?The-Undead-Lord-Archetype#12012-07-31T06:58:05Z2012-07-31T05:10:06Z<p>Is it legal to ply a true neutral cleric with the undead lord template? Other threads discuss some aspects of the corpse companion but can we play a non evil character who creates and consorts with undead? Does this make him evil and therefore unplayable?</p>Is it legal to ply a true neutral cleric with the undead lord template? Other threads discuss some aspects of the corpse companion but can we play a non evil character who creates and consorts with undead? Does this make him evil and therefore unplayable?MC01010102012-07-31T05:10:06Z