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Silver Crusade

Umbral Reaver wrote:
Mikaze wrote:

Speaking of Samsarans, combined with Umbral Reaver's concept of repentant orders:

A samsaran whose sequence of past lives has been spent trying to overcome the sins he commited in his first. Each life has been lived, and lost, trying to stop the things he set in motion in his first life. The person he once was is practically anathema to the person she wants to become, his own worst enemy. And he is good, but she has to look back and examine that darkness of what he once was in order to be ready and able to undo the damage she's already done. It's a character that has to constantly confront their own sins, own up to them, and overcome them, to transcend what he was and become something better.

Bonus points if he's burn into races and ethnicities that he may have caused the most pain or persecuted in his first life before having his epiphany. Though the samsaran angle does kind of get in the way of that....

Nameless One?

Oh dammit. (I knew something was itching in the back of my head when I wrote that)

But yeah, kinda!


Mikaze wrote:
Umbral Reaver wrote:
Mikaze wrote:

Speaking of Samsarans, combined with Umbral Reaver's concept of repentant orders:

A samsaran whose sequence of past lives has been spent trying to overcome the sins he commited in his first. Each life has been lived, and lost, trying to stop the things he set in motion in his first life. The person he once was is practically anathema to the person she wants to become, his own worst enemy. And he is good, but she has to look back and examine that darkness of what he once was in order to be ready and able to undo the damage she's already done. It's a character that has to constantly confront their own sins, own up to them, and overcome them, to transcend what he was and become something better.

Bonus points if he's burn into races and ethnicities that he may have caused the most pain or persecuted in his first life before having his epiphany. Though the samsaran angle does kind of get in the way of that....

Nameless One?

Oh dammit. (I knew something was itching in the back of my head when I wrote that)

But yeah, kinda!

So the samsarans are an entire race of Nameless Ones. Damn.

Silver Crusade

Icyshadow wrote:
Mikaze wrote:
Umbral Reaver wrote:
Mikaze wrote:

Speaking of Samsarans, combined with Umbral Reaver's concept of repentant orders:

A samsaran whose sequence of past lives has been spent trying to overcome the sins he commited in his first. Each life has been lived, and lost, trying to stop the things he set in motion in his first life. The person he once was is practically anathema to the person she wants to become, his own worst enemy. And he is good, but she has to look back and examine that darkness of what he once was in order to be ready and able to undo the damage she's already done. It's a character that has to constantly confront their own sins, own up to them, and overcome them, to transcend what he was and become something better.

Bonus points if he's burn into races and ethnicities that he may have caused the most pain or persecuted in his first life before having his epiphany. Though the samsaran angle does kind of get in the way of that....

Nameless One?

Oh dammit. (I knew something was itching in the back of my head when I wrote that)

But yeah, kinda!

So the samsarans are an entire race of Nameless Ones. Damn.

That sounds awesome.


Oceanshieldwolf wrote:
Umbral Reaver wrote:
only the redeemed can truly understand the fight against evil and that those that have been good the whole time are naive (if well-meaning) fools.

Damn straight U.R.! This sums up my RL approach to life. When those "good" English magistrates sentenced thousands of poor "evil" folk to be transported to Australia as convicts for the merest infringements, they had no idea of the struggles of poor dispossessed people - for them, the blind eyes of justice were not moderated by any understanding of what might drive a person to commit "criminal" acts. Like hunger, malnutrition or intergenerational unemployment. If they did understand, they didn't care. Either naive or calculatingly bereft of ethics, no matter how lawful. (okay so my rant drifted - but my point is those who haven't known "evil" have no context or appreciation for it, thus no true understanding or proper compassion or means to counter it successfully...)

I've always considered fanatic legalists LN - there's very little "good" in them. Personally I would place Judge Dredd in LN with Good tendencies.
Bat-Dude? Depends on the writer! ;) everything from LG, LN, NG, N, CG to CN...

Or alternatively the law only 3 options and the magistrates took the most humane one available.

Option 1 death for poaching or theft, option 2 continued imprisonment and if they survived the prison the person was back where they started or option 3 transportation - there was a good chance they would survive and a chance that they could make new life for themselves.

Grand Lodge

Pathfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber
brent norton wrote:
I have always pictured LG and Superman as one and the same. Can LG be played dark and brooding? What fictional characters can I look at?

The Angris Council of Diablo 3 comes to mind. The only reason they did not exterminate Humanity was because one of them dissented.


Batman beats up the poor and the mentally ill to work through his own trauma, while dressed up to protect his civilian identity. Textbook Chaotic Evil

Silver Crusade

Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber
Mikaze wrote:
pobbes wrote:
but who would not be seduced by an attractive prophetess of the flame god (the literal definition of hot
Before or after learning that she was dark and full of terrors?

But those are what make you fall in love with 'em.

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