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Shadow Lodge

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YAY

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Aw Hel naw!

I'm glad so much of the cast seems to be back on board, though I'm really sad to hear Branagh isn't involved.

srsly, hopin for some Niflheimin'. I want to see if they can pull off an even crazier set of headgear than what Loki has.

Dark Archive

By far the earliest spoiler Empire Strikes Back 'tie in'

Spoiler:
Loki gets his hand cut off, just like Luke Skywalker.

Skywalker is one of Loki's names/titles.

:P


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This. Movie. Was. AWESOME!

Best superhero movie since Avengers. Easily. Loki should get his own movie series. ^^

Silver Crusade

Just seen it tonight. Loved it!


I want to see this, but I suppose it would be appropriate to wait for Thursday.

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magnuskn wrote:

This. Movie. Was. AWESOME!

Best superhero movie since Avengers. Easily. Loki should get his own movie series. ^^

Did you like the first Thor movie?


As always, see the very end of the credits.


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Lord Snow wrote:
magnuskn wrote:

This. Movie. Was. AWESOME!

Best superhero movie since Avengers. Easily. Loki should get his own movie series. ^^

Did you like the first Thor movie?

Not as much as this one. The first one was a bit plodding and had secondary characters like Sif and the Warriors Three look like ineffective buffoons. Asgard was well done, but by far not as beautiful like it was shown to be in this one.

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I loved every second, all the cast played important roles in the saving of the day.

This was more Cosmic Fantasy Epic than the first's Cosmic Shakespearean Epic.

I wonder what will come next now

end of movie:
Loki has what he always desired?

I'm glad Jane Foster had a pivotal role to play.

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magnuskn wrote:
and had secondary characters like Sif and the Warriors Three look like ineffective buffoons.

The Warriors Three, perhaps, but Sif came off as pretty g%!@!&n badass. She's the only non-Thor character to give the Destroyer even the slightest bit of a pause.


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Fair enough, some of my memory of the first movie has gotten a bit hazy by now.

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Did this movie open when I wasn't looking?


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It opened in Europe this week. Or at least in Germany, no idea about the rest of the continent. ^^

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Kthulhu wrote:
Did this movie open when I wasn't looking?

Opened in Australia on Halloween.


Kthulhu wrote:
Did this movie open when I wasn't looking?

Opened last Thorsday, here. ;)


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In unrelated news, Loki is the best.


No. But ugly monster is the best.


Wow, what a great movie! A perfect extension of the events in the Avengers, expansion of Thor's mythos, and a terrific blend of high fantasy and sci-fi. I expected to like it, but it blew all of my expectations away.

The CA: The Winter Soldier trailer looks phenomenal and we'll see if Guardians of the Galaxy can maintain the Marvel movie momentum, but while I thought the original Thor did a good job of making the transition to live-action movie despite the most "baggage" and non-traditional comic mythos, this movie cements Thor's role as an A-list superhero.


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I just say it and I think it is a great movie, good sequel, and can't wait for Cap's movie as well. Also I love that cameo they did.

Dark Archive

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Love that Darcy still can't be bothered to say 'Mjolnir' and calls Thor's hammer 'Mew-mew.'

Heh.


This might be my second favorite Marvel movie after Avengers. I was skeptical going in, because the Iron Man sequels have all been disappointing (although in different ways).

Great set design...Great action sequences...Great characterization. Have no idea where they will go next with the next Thor movie.


I hope Surtur will be the main villain for the next Thor movie.


Chiming in with those who enjoyed this film. I thought it was a significant step up from the first Thor movie (which wasn't bad), and definitely the best film since Avengers within the Marvel universe in my opinion.

I thought it also did a excellent job advancing the general plot for the universe and dropped a lot of hints as to where Avengers 2 is going (though I think many people were fairly certain).

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This movie was awesome. I like what they did with Kurse. Dude was a beast. That fight against Malekith at the end was fun to watch too.

Dragon78 wrote:
I hope Surtur will be the main villain for the next Thor movie.

Personally, I'm hoping to see Jormundgandr in a movie because something like this would be awesome to see on an IMAX screen. Also, if they are still planning on introducing Enchantress in the third movie, I really hope they include Skurge. I always thought his last stand on Gjallerbru would make an awesome film sequence.


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If there are going to use enchantress make it so she was disguised as Darcy ether all along or replaced/possessed her recently.


+1 for awesome.


Dragon78 wrote:
If there are going to use enchantress make it so she was disguised as Darcy ether all along or replaced/possessed her recently.

You know ... that's really brilliant.

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Saw it yesterday; it was terrific. A lovely blend of bombastic action set-pieces and quiet moments, bare-knuckled brawling, magical wonder and beauty, and well-placed humor. Two thumbs way up!


Something I thought of last night while going to bed.

At the end of Iron Man 3, Tony Stark destroys his suits and decides to be just Tony Stark

At the end of Thor 2:

spoiler:
Thor gives up Asgard and his title for Jane Foster (although he still promises to defend the 9 realms)

Based on trailers, it seems pretty likely that Captain America is going to part ways with Shield.

So will a big part of Avengers 2 be simply focused on getting the characters to take back their responsibilities? Even if it means sacrificing an ideal or dream?

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I particularly liked the scenes when he just leaps off of a railing, catches the hammer as it goes by and flies off. Soundtrack was great. Very interesting conclusion scene and probably the best after the credits scene, too, (if you are a comics fan). Really liked what we see with Loki, too. I also really liked how they started to introduce the classic comic Thor element of him being torn between the two worlds.

The first movie had a lot of background to explain, which always left me feeling like the movie was really short. I get that it's not, it just feels that way. For the most part, everyone knows enough about Spider-man, Ironman, Cpt America, and the Hulk that you could just throw them in, but Thor is only vaguely tied to the Norse mythology, and is not as well known a character, so some set up and explanation is obviously required in the first movie. This one gets past all that is was amazing.

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MMCJawa wrote:

Something I thought of last night while going to bed.

At the end of Iron Man 3, Tony Stark destroys his suits and decides to be just Tony Stark

At the end of Thor 2:
** spoiler omitted **

Based on trailers, it seems pretty likely that Captain America is going to part ways with Shield.

So will a big part of Avengers 2 be simply focused on getting the characters to take back their responsibilities? Even if it means sacrificing an ideal or dream?

Spoiler:
I'm pretty sure that Avengers 2 will be very much focused around the Infinity Gauntlet story arch. Though I've also heard that it's very Ultron focused, so might be leading into that arch for Avengers 3, much later, without all the cosmic beings. In Cpt America, the guy that fell off the train is the Winter Soldier, sort of a brainwashed anit-Cpt Amrica, so I am guessing that Cpt America 2 will be more of a sins returning sort of deal, and explain a bit more why he was so angry when he started going through some of the stuff on the Helocarrier in the Avengers, (found something that wasn't shown in the movie). Anyway, I'm speculating that SHIELD has the Soul Infinity stone, which he might have discovered and believed SHIELD was either trying to recreate the Tesseract or was somehow related to the Hulk (it's green), and could have the power to return the dead to life <like Winter Soldier and possibly Coulson>, but SHIELD probably wouldn't know how to really use/control it. That would tie in with the end credits scene of Thor and the ending of Avengers when Thor takes the Tesseract, (an "Infinity Stone", probably of Mind -> Blue) from earth, because Earth already has one on the planet and they do not want to keep them "too close together".

Personally, I'd also like to see The Ballad of Beta-Ray Bill show up sometime.

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Rumors about Kat Dennings playing a dual role of Darcy/Amora (the Enchantress) have been floating around since the first movie. Natalie Portman confirmed the rumors were false when that happened, but bleedingcool.com ran an article where they suggested it was happening in Thor: The Dark World instead. At this point I wouldn't be surprised if the Darcy/Amora thing becomes a red herring just to mess with people. Like another actress plays the real Amora, but they shoot a bunch of scenes where she disguises herself as Darcy to flirt with Thor or something like that.


Was the Enchantress a asgardian, human, or other race?

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Amora is an asgardian. So is Scourge.


Since the general reviews have been mixed, albeit more positive than negative, and the response here seems to be universally positive, it makes me wonder if this movie has just nailed the elements that appeal to gamers.

My own take on the movie is that from a writing perspective, I wish they'd cool it with the silliness in virtually every situation imaginable. As with most things, that sort of humor is best done in moderation, this movie was simply overrun with it. But otherwise it was OK.

From a story perspective it strikes me as bizarre to hear all Thor's Asgardian buddies constantly telling him to cool it with the human chick, because it will only last an eyeblink.

What? Wouldn't that go the other way? Wouldn't Odin and the other Gods just roll their eyes, give each other a wink and a nudge, and say "Whatever Thor, get it out of your system, we're gonna go take a holiday until your human chick gets old and you lose interest. See you then."

Anyway, I did love the blend of sci-fi and fantasy in Asgard. Although I wish Hollywood writers would stop trying to pretend their magic had any connection to actual science since they have no clue whatsoever about actual science anyway.


Adamantine Dragon wrote:
Wouldn't that go the other way? Wouldn't Odin and the other Gods just roll their eyes, give each other a wink and a nudge, and say "Whatever Thor, get it out of your system, we're gonna go take a holiday until your human chick gets old and you lose interest. See you then."

Real family and friends would try to spare you the agony of loss, as Thor's do. They also know that he, as a being of substance, wouldn't lose interest in Jane simply because she'd gotten old. Instead, he'd be more likely to search the Nine Worlds for some way to make her immortal or restore her youth. Barring that, he'd likely stay at her side to savor every minute before losing her.


Jaelithe, based on the mythologies of Norse and Roman/Greek gods, the immortal gods routinely dabbled with mortals and rarely, if ever, went to the lengths you describe to make them immortal.

If Thor truly loves her, then he's going to lose her regardless. They can't "spare him the agony of loss" by telling him to drop her, that only makes the agony sooner (and potentially greater since Thor knows she's right there but he can't have her because Daddy said "No") and robs Thor and Jane of the lives they can have together.


Jaelithe wrote:
Adamantine Dragon wrote:
Wouldn't that go the other way? Wouldn't Odin and the other Gods just roll their eyes, give each other a wink and a nudge, and say "Whatever Thor, get it out of your system, we're gonna go take a holiday until your human chick gets old and you lose interest. See you then."
Real family and friends would try to spare you the agony of loss, as Thor's do. They also know that he, as a being of substance, wouldn't lose interest in Jane simply because she'd gotten old. Instead, he'd be more likely to search the Nine Worlds for some way to make her immortal or restore her youth. Barring that, he'd likely stay at her side to savor every minute before losing her.

Yep pretty much.

Other random notes:

It was really weird to keep seeing Chuck (i.e. Zachary Levi) in blond hair. Don't get me wrong...he did great in the Warriors 3, but I kept wanting to make Intersect jokes

The movie was fun, but probably plot line wise wasn't incredibly complicated. I suspect that hurt the reviews. There was no great metaphor or introspection on modern society, just a lot of great visuals and awesome fight sequences. Which to be honest, I would rather see that than gravitas handled badly (Points to Iron Man sequels). And the movie was able to be fun without making my brain hurt..something a lot of blockbusters haven't been so successful at.

I also have to wonder...how many homebrew DnD worlds have suddenly revised there portrayal of Dark Elves? Those guys were awesome and creepy, and I loved those blank-faced masks.

Now I am left wondering when dark elves will show up on Agents of Shield...They have already announced and upcoming episode dealing with after effects of Thor 2. It was obvious they weren't all dead at the end of the movie, so I can see a few stranded on Earth. and the hilarity that would ensue.


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Adamantine Dragon wrote:

Jaelithe, based on the mythologies of Norse and Roman/Greek gods, the immortal gods routinely dabbled with mortals and rarely, if ever, went to the lengths you describe to make them immortal.

If Thor truly loves her, then he's going to lose her regardless. They can't "spare him the agony of loss" by telling him to drop her, that only makes the agony sooner (and potentially greater since Thor knows she's right there but he can't have her because Daddy said "No") and robs Thor and Jane of the lives they can have together.

But one of the points of adapting a Marvel character to the big screen is to honor the source material (since it made the character movie-worthy, after all). Asgard's discouraging of Thor's relationship with Jane Foster is well established in the comics...

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I'd agree that the plot wasn't exactly complicated, which only baffles me further when I've read reviews that talk about how the plot was incomprehensible. Srsly?

Shadow Lodge

The plot wasn't complicated, I agree. I'm not sure why that should be seen as either a bad or a good thing, though. Complex plots can be good or bad...the same goes for simple plots.


The dark elves had some serious Warhammer 40K vibes to me - they were quite similar to the dark eldar and were equipped with vortex grenades (whether they inspired the 40K version or the other way around I'll let others decide). ;-)

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I liked the movie, but it was frustrating how the Asgardian soldiers kept bringing swords to a gun fight. I mean, you have gun turrets outside, so it's not like you've never thought of ranged weapons; why don't any of you carry a sidearm?


Berserkers like their combat 'in your face'.


Adamantine Dragon wrote:
Jaelithe, based on the mythologies of Norse and Roman/Greek gods, the immortal gods routinely dabbled with mortals and rarely, if ever, went to the lengths you describe to make them immortal.

More relevant than traditional mythology is Marvel canon, Adamantine Dragon, in which Odin has made clear that he's not overly enthusiastic about Thor's dalliance with a mortal woman.

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If Thor truly loves her, then he's going to lose her regardless. They can't "spare him the agony of loss" by telling him to drop her, that only makes the agony sooner (and potentially greater since Thor knows she's right there but he can't have her because Daddy said "No") and robs Thor and Jane of the lives they can have together.

Not quite, Adamantine Dragon.

He most certainly can be spared the agony of loss as relates to a pair of star-crossed lovers, mortal and immortal; Thor is good-hearted and selfless enough that he would be happy for Jane if she found love with a human and lived the rest of her short life content. Besides, it's clear that he and Sif have a spark, as well, and she is much better suited for a timeless romance than a woman who'll very soon (relatively speaking) run out of time.

There's a difference between an attraction you know can't go anywhere for legitimate reasons (which is what they have right now), and a long, consummated affair in which the pain of deprivation and loss is excruciating. Odin wishes to spare Thor the latter, which is far worse.

On the other hand, sometimes love is worth it. Time will tell. We know what happens in the comics, though.


That was one thing I kind of wished the movie touched upon more. I would have loved to see Sif and Jane Foster interact more. Maybe that will be a subplot played up in the next movie.


Jaelithe wrote:
We know what happens in the comics, though.

For those of us not in the know, this is...?

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