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I think the the Rangers' Combat Style Feat rules need to be clarified. It reads; "At 2nd level, a ranger must select one of two combat styles to pursue: archery or two-weapon combat. The ranger’s expertise manifests in the form of bonus feats at 2nd, 6th, 10th, 14th, and 18th level. He can choose feats from his selected combat style, even if he does not have the normal prerequisites." It does not mention that only the bonus feats granted by this ability can be used to take a feat without the prerequisites, only that the listed feats can be chosen without meeting the prerequisites.
If it were the case, I would suggest the wording to be changed to; "He can choose his bonus feats from his selected combat style, even if he does not have the normal prerequisites." This would clear up any ambiguity.
While the Monks' Bonus Feat ability is similar, it reads; "At 1st level, 2nd level, and every 4 levels thereafter, a monk may select a bonus feat....a monk need not have any of the prerequisites normally required for these feats to select them."(emphasis mine). The use of language here directly implies only the feats selected with the bonus feat don't need to meet the prerequisites.
BBT: I think he/she is. Interesting take. Not one I agree with though.
- Gauss
P.S. really need a gender neutral term in the english language.
Social Inquisitor: They is not a gender neutral term for a single person. Additionally, constantly coming up with workarounds to avoid gender pronouns is a pain. Other languages have gender neutral pronouns. The english language needs one.
BBT: LOL
- Gauss
I'd like a clarification that Crossbow Rangers can, in fact, take Point Blank Master at level 6 w/ Weapon Focus, just like Archer rangers can. It's an odd case be/c it doesn't appear on the list and has a pre-req, but it's really lame that crossbow ranger by RAW doesn't get it.
Interesting, I just found an example of a Ranger that is violating prerequisites for two feats when NOT taking ranger bonus feats.
He is 10th level, has a 14 dexterity but has 5 feats that require a 15 or higher dexterity. At 10th level he only has 3 bonus ranger feats which means that two feats are illegal or Shinami's concept is correct. Personally, I think they are illegal.
- Gauss
Was CoT a full pathfinder AP or a 3.5 one?(I honestly don't know since I don't own it.)
First post-3.5 AP. My guess is it is an error.
- Gauss
Ahhh yes, but what do I call you Deuxhero? If I call you 'her' and you arent you might be offended. Some people do get offended at such things. (Not saying you are a female nor am I saying you get offended at such things.)
- Gauss
I asked James Jacobs about it. He stated that the CoT ranger is incorrect and that only the ranger bonus feats bypass prerequisites.
- Gauss
Cool thats how we ran it and i asked about the release since maybe it was feats with lower 3.5 prereqs.
I know JJ isnt the rules guy. But he is higher up the food chain than we are.
- Gauss
I agree 100% I just know if the thread goes long enough someone will say it.
True, it usually isnt too long before someone brings that up. Perhaps I should always include a disclaimer whenever I bring one of his opinions to a thread. LOL
- Gauss
P.S. really need a gender neutral term in the english language.
Grammatically, English has one. That convention doesn't apply 'it' to people doesn't change the fact that it is the gender neutral 3rd person pronoun.
The language, and culture around it, has just evolved to the point it needs a gender neutral one for those things that it seems wrong to call 'it' - which is pretty much just people.To the point on the thread, I do agree that the wording could have been tidier but I think most people read it as only applying to the bonus feats granted by the feature.