I'm kinda hoping for a DPR breakdown of a Hydra with 24 heads and 48 attacks from the alternate Speed AoMF. :P
You know Ciretose, I notice you seem to hold the Developers up on this almost deific pedestal. I don't know, not trying to insult your or anything, it's just that is seems like you've got an opinion that a Developer can't ever be wrong. And judging by a previous post, if a Developer is wrong, he is now, by his nature, right as he can change the rules.
This strikes me as odd. It also brings to mind a video I watched called [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSS-88ShJfo&feature=relmfu[/url]. It's an Athiest video, and while I'm not certain what my religious viewpoints are, the video has some interesting points.
One of them is this: If a Lawmaker makes a Law, that Law is not Moral just because it was made by a Lawmaker; a Moral Law is Moral, because it is Moral.
I say that, because a Developer is a person, and as a person, they can make mistakes. Because of that, all FAQs should be treated as nothing more than a houserule, until they can be verified by others. As I've already shown, a FAQ can be wrong, but you seem to be of the opinion that since the Developers made the FAQ, it is by it's very nature, correct.
This is similar to one of the things that the video I linked showed. It first gives hypothetical laws given by a lawmaker that people would automatically call immoral. Then it goes on to show something else. That people believe that any command issued by what they believe to be a Perfect Moral Being, is by it's nature, Perfectly Moral. After this, it gives various examples of commands (that can be verified by looking them up yourself as myself and my sister did), that match the Immoral Laws exactly.
I don't know, I think I'm just rambling now. I'd like to point out that I'm not trying to insult you or infer that you're religiously devoted to the Developers or anything. I'm just curious about your viewpoint on the Developers.
[Edit] Linked to the wrong video.
As a Christian, I must say...
Brilliant video. Thank you, Tels for sharing this.
As a Christian, I must say...
Brilliant video. Thank you, Tels for sharing this.
Hmm.. I can't tell if you're being serious or not.
I know my Sister was mad at me when I showed it to her. She's questioning what she believes in right now and goes through periods of being a devout believer, and periods of not being not so devoted. But when we sat down and started looking things up... Let's just say she got very angry and my ears hurt afterward, like it was my fault somehow.
I will mention, I take everything he says with a grain of salt because he is, of course, going to portray things in the most favorable method to prove his point.
Holy crap! Someone brought real world religion here?
Now we are truly walking down a dark road.
Well the video in question is actually about logic and reasoning. It's just that logic and reasoning is being put forth about a topic in that video (religion). The same logic, however, crosses borders from the subject of that video to the conversation that is shared here.
Just because something is related to a religious discussion does not mean that it should be condemned when a parallel is drawn elsewhere. To do so would be a great disservice to the thinking minds of the conversation.
Holy crap! Someone brought real world religion here?
Now we are truly walking down a dark road.
I know right? Good derail huh?
[Edit] As a side note, I'm beginning to wonder if Paizo shouldn't host some sort of Chat service...
[Edit] As a side note, I'm beginning to wonder if Paizo shouldn't host some sort of Chat service...
Someone could make a Pathfinder IRC channel
Hmm.. I can't tell if you're being serious or not.As a Christian, I must say...
Brilliant video. Thank you, Tels for sharing this.
Quite serious in fact. For lack of a better term I'd claim to be a christian (but that word carries with it so many different meanings today that it can create as much confusion as it can dispel), and I myself have had spiritual experiences that I cannot easily explain through common means. That being said, I believe that logic, reasoning, and discussion are noble things indeed. I'm a big fan of Richard Dawkins and his rationality and reasoning. Brilliant man. We need more like him. Likewise, your video link exhibits perfect logic and reasoning, which must make us sit back and think instead of blindly following.
I personally believe that there is a higher being. This is partially due to my own experiences (which like I said I cannot explain with great evidence, but I believe them as readily as I believe I see the color red on a Solo-brand cup, or believe that water is wet when I touch it), and I believe that trying to understand, reason, and build a connection with that higher sense of awareness is a good thing.
I'm still watching the video (it is paused at the moment as I type this), but I will say that nothing that you show me casting doubts on my religion will offend me (nor will it cause me to view you any differently). The logic here is priceless, and religious or not, I think it should be viewed and cherished for what it is.
I know my Sister was mad at me when I showed it to her. She's questioning what she believes in right now and goes through periods of being a devout believer, and periods of not being not so devoted. But when we sat down and started looking things up... Let's just say she got very angry and my ears hurt afterward, like it was my fault somehow.
I think that it is good for the mind, and the spirit, to have these things challenged. How can one say that they are looking to form a relationship with the divine, or have faith, when they themselves cannot look at things objectively? If offered the choice between someone who plugged their ears and shouted "La-la-la-la, I can't hear you, la-la-la-la" when you presented them with something that shakes up their idea of the status quo, or someone who examined it for what it was, who would you put more stock in when looking for someone with experience to help you with your life?
For example, I have some family members who refuse to even speak or listen of evolution (which isn't a theory anymore as it has been scientifically proven, no joke). Meanwhile, I look at the evidence for evolution and notice that not only is it completely logical, well documented, and the evidence is there, but I cannot help but to notice that the pattern of evolution from oceanic creatures to humanity seems to directly mirror the order of creation in Genesis. Is that scientific evidence that Genesis is fact? Well, probably not, but it's interesting at least to me to see the parallels and it provokes consideration that perhaps we are not so different from those we see as different. We should not dehumanize them or even berate them for simply looking at the same world through a different lens.
I imagine that questioning will make your sister stronger in the long run. In many cases, it is not the answer, but the questioning that really makes us smarter.
I will mention, I take everything he says with a grain of salt because he is, of course, going to portray things in the most favorable method to prove his point.
It's fine. I think he's doing a stand-up job about it so far. I don't mind if someone is arguing their views, if their views are being held up with logic and reasoning, rather than "just because". I'd tip my hat to him, if I was wearing one.
I'm kinda hoping for a DPR breakdown of a Hydra with 24 heads and 48 attacks from the alternate Speed AoMF. :P
I don't think it will be that much if a whatever it is attacking has DR.
The hydra is a CR 11.
A level 11 fighter can have an AC of 30ish assuming it has a shield
One attack does an average of 3.3.
48 attacks are 158.4
A barbarian would have an AC closer to 24, but have DR 7 possibly with the invulnerable rager archetype.
DPR per hit 2.24
DPR with 48 attacks. 107.52
They have a board room for chatting, but it is not own by Paizo. Many of the members go there to talk though.
Rofl, just noticed this part:
You can make more powerful hydras by increasing their Hit Dice—each added HD increases the hydra's statistics as appropriate, but also gives it one additional head and a +1 increase to its natural armor. A hydra's CR increases by +1 for each Hit Die it gains.
So a 20 HD Hydra has 20 heads. Cut them off1 at a time, you have 40 heads. 40 heads has 80 attacks with Speed.
Could you imagine rolling that up at the table? Also, a Hydra's fast healing is Ridicerous! It has fast healing equal to it's current number of heads. So a 40 Head Hydra, has Fast Healing 40. It actually benefits from having it's head cut off!
That would be a memorable encounter to be sure.
Rofl, just noticed this part:
You can make more powerful hydras by increasing their Hit Dice—each added HD increases the hydra's statistics as appropriate, but also gives it one additional head and a +1 increase to its natural armor. A hydra's CR increases by +1 for each Hit Die it gains.So a 20 HD Hydra has 20 heads. Cut them off1 at a time, you have 40 heads. 40 heads has 80 attacks with Speed.
Could you imagine rolling that up at the table? Also, a Hydra's fast healing is Ridicerous! It has fast healing equal to it's current number of heads. So a 40 Head Hydra, has Fast Healing 40. It actually benefits from having it's head cut off!
That would be a memorable encounter to be sure.
Bring it Biatch! >:3
EDIT: Or we could try it with my druid! 1d6+15 no-save no-SR damage every time you hit me, and I'll need a Will save or your full attack is over for a while.
