Monk Sensei / Cleric Evangelist


Silver Crusade

Would the class abilities of Advice from Monk and Sermonic Performance from Cleric stack, or be seperate?

Advice (Ex): A sensei's advice is identical to bardic performance (using oratory), allowing him to inspire courage at 1st level, inspire competence at 3rd level, and inspire greatness at 9th level, as a bard of the sensei's level, usable a total number of rounds per day equal to his level + his Wisdom modifier (minimum 1). This ability replaces flurry of blows, fast movement, and improved evasion.

Sermonic Performance: An evangelist gains the ability to deliver a select number of supernatural and spell-like performances through the force and power of her divinely inspired preaching and exhortation. This ability is similar in all respects to bardic performance as used by a bard of the same level (including interactions with feats, spells, and prestige classes), using Perform (oratory) as the evangelist's performance skill. However, an evangelist gains only the following types of bardic performance: countersong, fascinate, and inspire courage at 1st level; inspire greatness at 9th level; and inspire heroics at 15th level. Sermonic performance replaces the 1st-, 9th-, and 15th-level channel energy abilities. This caps the cleric's channel energy damage at 7d6 points.

No insight to add, except I was just about to post this very question!



I think that the problem is that you can't have 2 performances at the same time. It's like singing 2 songs simultaneously.

I think the question asked was whether levels in evangelist stack with levels in sensei for determining the efficacy of bardic music (or substitute thereof).


Silver Crusade

Yes, I'm sorry. Do the levels stack as far as multiclassing?

AFAIK, they stack.

Silver Crusade

my opinion is they don't. they both say that the abilities act identically or similarly like the performance, meaning they are not the same and thus don't stack.

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