Sarta |
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Under Blue Ring Octopus it says, "They cannot survive out of water."
If a PC witch uses the Water Lung hex on that familiar every 54 seconds of the day, is that sufficient to keep the octopus alive?
Or does the sentence I quoted above indicate that octopi have other needs than simply breathing which cannot be met outside of water?
Midnight_Angel |
Or does the sentence I quoted above indicate that octopi have other needs than simply breathing which cannot be met outside of water?
Since there are enough air-breathing creatures that cannot survive out of water for extended periods of time (say hello to Mr. Whale), odds are that octopi might have some difficulties with extended dryness...
Shifty |
Seems they can last quite a while as long as they stay moist.
In dry conditions it seems 'about 10 minutes' is the norm before the gills dry and they suffocate.
http://www.inquisitr.com/162489/a-walking-octopus-biologists-explain-bizarr e-video/
So in the salty spray of a coastal area they might be okay to crawl in the air for at least several minutes. But if faced with an expanse of dry rocks in the hot sun, they might not make it very far.
Sarta |
So, from a RAW perspective, is the consensus yay or nay?
When a tiny octopus is thrown at a flying, STR 22 Gargoyle and is able to grapple it in mid-air and force it to the ground, something seems very wrong.
Folks have repeatedly questioned if creatures should be able to grapple creatures 2+ sizes bigger. Given the lack of response, I can only assume that grapple is working as intended and there's no issue with two pound creatures grappling 300 pound creatures.
However, I thought I would check to see if the octopus familiar, with it's rather high CMB for grapples, was intended to be used out of water without problems, as long as the witch doesn't forget to use Water Lung every minute the familiar is not submerged.
DungeonmasterCal |
Out of water their tentacles are practically useless beyond pulling the creature across the sand or boat deck. They lack the musculature to actually flail about and attack things. Also, octopi rarely live past 1 year.
In 2003, there was this story from my hometown. What the story doesn't tell you is that the first guy who saw it was so frightened he threw his fishing rod at it and ran away.
Owly |
I picture some wizened old wizard carrying a staff that has a large glass globe at its top. Inside, floats a blue-ringed octopus.
Is it a familiar? It's best not to mettle in the affairs of wizards, boy, but rumour has it, that is a companion sent by an abboleth lord to "watch over" that old wizard. It's best not to get too close to it either, as it's also rumoured that it possesses mind powers, and you don't want that thing in your nightmares, do you?
Sagotel |
Twitch...
The plural of "octopus" is "octopuses", not "octopi". The "-us" singular to "-i" plural is Latin, but "octopus" is Greek. "Octopoda" may be used to refer to multiple species of octopuses.
And I have seen video clips of octopuses crawling across short distances out of the water. They're clever creatures.
It seems to me that a creature that can kill you just by looking at you, and wants to kill you usually lives in Australia.
Shifty |
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Twitch...
The plural of "octopus" is "octopuses", not "octopi". The "-us" singular to "-i" plural is Latin, but "octopus" is Greek. "Octopoda" may be used to refer to multiple species of octopuses.And I have seen video clips of octopuses crawling across short distances out of the water. They're clever creatures.
It seems to me that a creature that can kill you just by looking at you, and wants to kill you usually lives in Australia.
With octopuses/octopi/octopodes, there's a wonderful video explaining the trouble here, with the end commentary that all of them are correct:
Ravingdork |
I once had an octopus familiar in a water-filled orb. He would roll around like a hamster in a hamster ball. I enchanted the glass sphere to have the properties of both a clear spindle ioun stone as well as a iridescent spindle ioun stone.
Set me back 11,000gp, but in return the sphere was treated as an attended magical item and thus was much harder to destroy than your typical bauble. I could even have it orbit around my head as if it were another ioun stone while my octopus was inside. :D
DJEternalDarkness |
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This is where you need to introduce a little creature we call the Pacific Northwest Tree Octopus and use it for a familiar...;)
Tiny Coffee Golem |
This is where you need to introduce a little creature we call the Pacific Northwest Tree Octopus and use it for a familiar...;)
This is a joke, right?