I have been reading all the entries so far in isles of the Shackles, Lost Kingdoms and Giants Revised. It seems to be implied but not mentioned that the foul gods worshipped by the Cyclops near the end of their empire may have been the Great Old Ones?
"They made promises to horrid god-beings from other dimensions, nightmarish monsters of impossible size and power who only further twisted the malleable minds of their one-eyed followers."
Am I correct? It seems logical given the above from Lost Empires.
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Could be.
The Ghol-Gan stuff I was working on was all written last year. Weirdly, when I was watching Prometheus a week or so ago, I thought: (as they enter the structure) is what exploring a late period Ghol-Gan ruin is like. It was eerily similar to what I had in mind.
But, yeah, it was meant to be a possibility in my work.
In general, though the GOOs and the OGs are described in detail in Carrion Crown, I suspect they are somewhat modular in terms of their use in Golarion; they might be the beings described, or they might be others, and the ambiguity is intentional. Qlippoth, the creatures of Aucturn, and others, all might be alternate readings of the gods described.
Thanks Jeff, I see what you mean, they could be Qlippoth too as they are kind of Lovecraftian in theme anyway. Until I hear otherwise (maybe part 4 of s&s) I'm still going to be thinking GOO's though as they seem to fit more, but how knows....
Considering how thoroughly pop culture (and especially gamer culture) has defanged Lovecraft's GOOs in the minds of players, I think the vagueness of the Ghol-Gan religion is something of a godsend...
Having a look at KM #3 where the BBEG hails from a cyclopes' empire located in Casmaron long ago (Koloran), this individual (atrophied lich wizard), it is said, worhipped Charon of the Four Horsemen.
Ruyan.
Have re-read isle of the Shackles. Again and again I keep seeing entries about Ghol-gan ruins and how they have turned explorers mad. Very Lofcraftian feel there although the Qlippoth can turn people mad too.
Still looking like dark tapestry or Qlippoth to me. However, I have seen that the next AP has a write up on Qlippoth and that's set in Varissa so Im thinking it might rule them out for Ghol-gan now. Also the Bestary entry for the Blood Queen just lists her as an outsider not Qlippoth so it could rule it out maybe.
Still as its ambiguous it's interseting to see everybodys take on it, Zura I guess is possible too as the Kuru worship a similar ideal in the Blood Queen and are Cannibals, would also fit with some the things going on in the Mwangi expanse and Serpent Skull stuff.
I think whatever it is it has to be Chaotic in nature due to the pure evil and madness asscoiated with it, rules out Devils and Daemons I think then as they would be far too organised.
It's intriguing though
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The Ghol-Gan Empire occupied the same territory as the later Kingdom of Lirgen, famously dominated by an astronomer-aristocracy, and later destroyed by the Eye of Abendego.
My guess is that the Lirgeni picked up those skills and/or habits from someone.
AS far as the Dark Tapestry goes, it's way too easy (but also way too awesome) not to use the Cyclops from the movie Krull and their deal with the Dark Tapestry-esque Beast as a model for these cursed monocularists.
It would be cool for explorers to come upon evidence of an all-out civilization destroying war between cyclops cults of demon worshippers and dark-tapestry servants, and then have to deal with the undead remnants of both.
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The Ghol-Gan stuff I was working on was all written last year. Weirdly, when I was watching Prometheus a week or so ago, I thought: (as they enter the structure) is what exploring a late period Ghol-Gan ruin is like. It was eerily similar to what I had in mind.
But, yeah, it was meant to be a possibility in my work.
Jeff if you're looking for more stuff eerily similar to Prometheus I recommend you check out:
Jodorowsky's Dune which uses art from Hans Rudolf "Ruedi" Giger (the man responsible for the whole Alien movies look and feel)