Pregnant worshiper of Cayden Cailean?


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blackbloodtroll wrote:
[in responce to a joking pregnancy template] Why death gaze?

you've never been married to a pregnant lady, have you. My wife could melt a mans face off at will when she was pregnant. (she still can actually)

Mechanicly it wouldn't change much until she started showing, then she'd become fatigued almost constantly. Later her speed and dex would be reduced. Nearer to term I'd say she would be exhausted most of the time with a severe Dex penalty. She would be near useless in combat up until about a week after the birth or so. (absent healing magics)
however, she could get almost anyone to do almost anything for her by glancing down at her belly.

That's my experienced 2cp

*edit*

Also, any humanoid female would automatically count as friendly toward the pregnant lady. Women flock around and support a pregnant lady like you wouldn't believe.


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Designated driver.


I still don't see why she'd care as a follower of CC. I mean, he is proof that irresponsibility and stupid actions mean ascension to godhood. Why too would not his followers seek to be irresponsible drunkards? I mean, his followers already ingest poison on a regular basis in celebration of him. Or perhaps they worship him because they get to say they're being irresponsible boozers because of their religious beliefs, as a form of validation.

Again, if your baby came out with all manner of deformations, who cares? It must have obviously been the will of the gods or something. Not that the kid would have done so hot anyway growing up with irresponsible drunkard parents in a church to the god of irresponsible drunkards. He'd probably look 50 when he was 12, and need a kidney regeneration by the time he was 18. If he didn't get stupid drunk and risk his life needlessly on a dare and somehow ascend to godhood. He can't really even offer anyone advice on ascension or being a better person or urge them on the path to divinity because he can't remember it himself. He could have just as easily woke up married to a Bugbear.

Grand Lodge

Never been married. Had a temporarily pregnant girlfriend.
She never gave me a death gaze.

Grand Lodge

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To the OP:

I don't know if anyone else suggested this but....

Keep drinking alcohol!

1) Prayers to CC from any worshiper while imbibing during the pregnancy can invoke his blessing -- the infant could be born with a CC Sorcerer Bloodline or as an Oracle or some other "touched by CC" blessing.

2) An occasional Neutralize Poison spell fixes all kinds of problems if you don't like option 1.

3) This is a fantasy world; maybe alcohol doesn't affect a fetus the way it does in real life. If Demons and Vampires and Earth Elementals can successfully procreate with you, creating Cambions and Dhampyrs and Oreads -- then a chick getting drunk while pregnant doesn't necessarily mean what it does in real life.

4) Keep drinking, believing it's okay (cuz you're dumb) -- have a sick baby. It's not as if Golarion has to have lots of evidence and education on the dangers of drinking while pregnant. And even if there is -- would all followers of CC even care -- would they believe the propaganda?!

Silver Crusade

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Sean K Reynolds wrote:
Be European?

Sean, we salute you.

Grand Lodge

The Spartans would bathe newborns in wine to test it's fortitude.

You could be drinking to strengthen the baby, not hurt it.


Find a hag with a stick to root it out.


Sean K Reynolds wrote:
Be European?

Yeah, right... An American trying to make a joke about European habits. :D


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Ashiel wrote:

I still don't see why she'd care as a follower of CC. I mean, he is proof that irresponsibility and stupid actions mean ascension to godhood. Why too would not his followers seek to be irresponsible drunkards? I mean, his followers already ingest poison on a regular basis in celebration of him. Or perhaps they worship him because they get to say they're being irresponsible boozers because of their religious beliefs, as a form of validation.

Again, if your baby came out with all manner of deformations, who cares? It must have obviously been the will of the gods or something. Not that the kid would have done so hot anyway growing up with irresponsible drunkard parents in a church to the god of irresponsible drunkards. He'd probably look 50 when he was 12, and need a kidney regeneration by the time he was 18. If he didn't get stupid drunk and risk his life needlessly on a dare and somehow ascend to godhood. He can't really even offer anyone advice on ascension or being a better person or urge them on the path to divinity because he can't remember it himself. He could have just as easily woke up married to a Bugbear.

Maybe you should familiarize yourself with the lore about Cayden Cailean before going off on these rants. It specifically says drinking to excess is heavily frowned upon.

Silver Crusade

W E Ray wrote:

To the OP:

I don't know if anyone else suggested this but....

Keep drinking alcohol!

1) Prayers to CC from any worshiper while imbibing during the pregnancy can invoke his blessing -- the infant could be born with a CC Sorcerer Bloodline or as an Oracle or some other "touched by CC" blessing.

I like this one a lot.

W E Ray wrote:


2) An occasional Neutralize Poison spell fixes all kinds of problems if you don't like option 1.

However this might be useful to deal with the insane dwarf alch's constant injections. Those can't be good.

W E Ray wrote:


3) This is a fantasy world; maybe alcohol doesn't affect a fetus the way it does in real life. If Demons and Vampires and Earth Elementals can successfully procreate with you, creating Cambions and Dhampyrs and Oreads -- then a chick getting drunk while pregnant doesn't necessarily mean what it does in real life.

you have a point, bug Galarion is a very gritty world. Don't forget that ogres are inbred hillbilly rapists. The inbreeding def has a horrible result *pokes ogres* So I'm guessing that drinking has a result for pregnant women.

W E Ray wrote:


4) Keep drinking, believing it's okay (cuz you're dumb) -- have a sick baby. It's not as if Golarion has to have lots of evidence and education on the dangers of drinking while pregnant. And even if there is -- would all followers of CC even care -- would they believe the propaganda?!

Doubt this one would work, my character is a Magus, and she's got pretty high int and wis scores.


Talynonyx wrote:
Ashiel wrote:

I still don't see why she'd care as a follower of CC. I mean, he is proof that irresponsibility and stupid actions mean ascension to godhood. Why too would not his followers seek to be irresponsible drunkards? I mean, his followers already ingest poison on a regular basis in celebration of him. Or perhaps they worship him because they get to say they're being irresponsible boozers because of their religious beliefs, as a form of validation.

Again, if your baby came out with all manner of deformations, who cares? It must have obviously been the will of the gods or something. Not that the kid would have done so hot anyway growing up with irresponsible drunkard parents in a church to the god of irresponsible drunkards. He'd probably look 50 when he was 12, and need a kidney regeneration by the time he was 18. If he didn't get stupid drunk and risk his life needlessly on a dare and somehow ascend to godhood. He can't really even offer anyone advice on ascension or being a better person or urge them on the path to divinity because he can't remember it himself. He could have just as easily woke up married to a Bugbear.

Maybe you should familiarize yourself with the lore about Cayden Cailean before going off on these rants. It specifically says drinking to excess is heavily frowned upon.

Says the god who became a god by drinking in excess. Hmm...


Drink small beer, like medieval people did when they didn't want to get drunk but wanted something safer than unclean water.

Silver Crusade

Ashiel wrote:

I still don't see why she'd care as a follower of CC. I mean, he is proof that irresponsibility and stupid actions mean ascension to godhood. Why too would not his followers seek to be irresponsible drunkards? I mean, his followers already ingest poison on a regular basis in celebration of him. Or perhaps they worship him because they get to say they're being irresponsible boozers because of their religious beliefs, as a form of validation.

Again, if your baby came out with all manner of deformations, who cares? It must have obviously been the will of the gods or something. Not that the kid would have done so hot anyway growing up with irresponsible drunkard parents in a church to the god of irresponsible drunkards. He'd probably look 50 when he was 12, and need a kidney regeneration by the time he was 18. If he didn't get stupid drunk and risk his life needlessly on a dare and somehow ascend to godhood. He can't really even offer anyone advice on ascension or being a better person or urge them on the path to divinity because he can't remember it himself. He could have just as easily woke up married to a Bugbear.

"Despite the church's promotion of drink, the faithful draw a line between drinking for merriment and drinking to excess. The latter is seen as the abuse of one of the deity's favored things, and as such is frowned upon. Similarly, although the faithful of Cayden Cailean are known to actively seek out danger and adventure, they recognize the need to withdraw when a situation turns sour. Stupidity does not equal bravery, and bravery should never be sought at the bottom of a keg"

Now, please try and give answers that don't come off as abrasive, sarcastic and demeaning or leave. I'm looking for role play help here, your posts are adding nothing to the conversation.

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Ashiel wrote:
Talynonyx wrote:
Ashiel wrote:

I still don't see why she'd care as a follower of CC. I mean, he is proof that irresponsibility and stupid actions mean ascension to godhood. Why too would not his followers seek to be irresponsible drunkards? I mean, his followers already ingest poison on a regular basis in celebration of him. Or perhaps they worship him because they get to say they're being irresponsible boozers because of their religious beliefs, as a form of validation.

Again, if your baby came out with all manner of deformations, who cares? It must have obviously been the will of the gods or something. Not that the kid would have done so hot anyway growing up with irresponsible drunkard parents in a church to the god of irresponsible drunkards. He'd probably look 50 when he was 12, and need a kidney regeneration by the time he was 18. If he didn't get stupid drunk and risk his life needlessly on a dare and somehow ascend to godhood. He can't really even offer anyone advice on ascension or being a better person or urge them on the path to divinity because he can't remember it himself. He could have just as easily woke up married to a Bugbear.

Maybe you should familiarize yourself with the lore about Cayden Cailean before going off on these rants. It specifically says drinking to excess is heavily frowned upon.
Says the god who became a god by drinking in excess. Hmm...

Cayden did not, as far as we know, stumble drunk into the Starstone Cathedral, empty his bladder on the starstone and wake up in an alley hugging a bottle of divine mead.

He got merry, giddy, excitably drunk and decided this was the time to take on that damned starstone.

Anyone taking on the Test of the Starstone who was slobbering drunk would be vapour in minutes. Cayden was probably a mythic-level character with high stats and PC level gear before he took the test. He could beat anyone he could find at almost anything even with a few drinks inside him.

Don't be reductive, be imaginative and sympathetic to the material, then you'll get a much more interesting Cayden!


I did a little searching for you in my 3.5 repository, as I recalled there being rules for pregnancy in the Book of Erotic Fantasy. From what I can see, they are as followed:

- 1st Trimester: Nothing
- 2nd Trimester: Movement reduced by one quarter (round down), -2 to Dexterity.
- 3rd Trimester: Movement reduced by half, -4 penalty to Dexterity, -2 to Strength.

As for the booze part, I agree with the other. She doesn't have to drink.

I hope this helps in your decision making.


Mystic_Snowfang wrote:
Ashiel wrote:

I still don't see why she'd care as a follower of CC. I mean, he is proof that irresponsibility and stupid actions mean ascension to godhood. Why too would not his followers seek to be irresponsible drunkards? I mean, his followers already ingest poison on a regular basis in celebration of him. Or perhaps they worship him because they get to say they're being irresponsible boozers because of their religious beliefs, as a form of validation.

Again, if your baby came out with all manner of deformations, who cares? It must have obviously been the will of the gods or something. Not that the kid would have done so hot anyway growing up with irresponsible drunkard parents in a church to the god of irresponsible drunkards. He'd probably look 50 when he was 12, and need a kidney regeneration by the time he was 18. If he didn't get stupid drunk and risk his life needlessly on a dare and somehow ascend to godhood. He can't really even offer anyone advice on ascension or being a better person or urge them on the path to divinity because he can't remember it himself. He could have just as easily woke up married to a Bugbear.

"Despite the church's promotion of drink, the faithful draw a line between drinking for merriment and drinking to excess. The latter is seen as the abuse of one of the deity's favored things, and as such is frowned upon. Similarly, although the faithful of Cayden Cailean are known to actively seek out danger and adventure, they recognize the need to withdraw when a situation turns sour. Stupidity does not equal bravery, and bravery should never be sought at the bottom of a keg"

Now, please try and give answers that don't come off as abrasive, sarcastic and demeaning or leave. I'm looking for role play help here, your posts are adding nothing to the conversation.

Well you wanted ideas on how to roleplay it, and I'm offering an opinion just as valid (I also suggested blessed protection but others have that covered at the moment, so I'm further expanding on the other part of my OP). Though if you really want to try and turn this into some sort of argument, drunkenness = excess. So Cayden was drinking in excess when he became a god. Specifically...

PF Wiki wrote:
Cailean never planned to become a god, but when a drunk friend challenged him to take the Test of the Starstone, an equally inebriated Caelean accepted, forgetting that only two mortals, Aroden and Norgorber, had passed the test

Drunk friend, equally drunk Cayden, making choices without his wits about him. So obviously anyone who worships him has to accept that their "god" was a mortal who got drunk and was doing things widely accepted as stupid. If that is the guy you want to base your life and spiritual advancement around, then I really doubt that not-drinking during pregnancy is anywhere on your radar of priorities.


It is unlikely anyone in Golarion is aware of FAS.

In spite of water being far more hazardous than wine for most of human history, babies were successfully born without deformation or retardation.

As long as you're not drinking fortified wine or distilled liquor the kid is less at risk of noticeable disability than of being hit with a confirmed crit from a scythe wielding commoner.


Since she's a cleric, can't they just cast Purify Water? Or even Create Water?


People keep talking about the "unsafe water" aspect. In Pathfinder, isn't there a fairly easy way to clean water via a divine caster? Therefore, you don't need to drink alcohol simply because "it's safer than water." Unless that spell for some reason isn't available to the masses. I agree with whoever said that drinking would be forcing drunkenness on the fetus, thereby going against Cayden Cailean's desire for Freedom.

Grand Lodge

Enhance Water is a awesome spell.


Nepherti wrote:
People keep talking about the "unsafe water" aspect. In Pathfinder, isn't there a fairly easy way to clean water via a divine caster? Therefore, you don't need to drink alcohol simply because "it's safer than water." Unless that spell for some reason isn't available to the masses. I agree with whoever said that drinking would be forcing drunkenness on the fetus, thereby going against Cayden Cailean's desire for Freedom.

Incidentally, any adept and cleric can create water, and every cleric can purify water at will. Water impurities aren't a big deal. In fact, food spoilage isn't either, since purify food & water fixes that either. As silly-funny as Cayden is, his clerics are undeniably useful.

I also agree that in the spirit of freedom no one is forced to booze it up, so you could just say "Nah, not drinking today". My previous posts were concerning the idea that worshiping a drunkard means you might simply not care.

Silver Crusade

Well, that fixes one problem I've got and not the other.

The party includes an insane alchemist. He injects people with things, the people he usually injects happen to be my Magus.

How do you think these strange potions would effect the growth of the baby?

I personally was thinking of making an "ahclemial bloodline" for sorcs.


On the one hand, I love the idea.

On the other, if one of my old players discovers it I will never be able to get him to play anything else....


Ashiel wrote:
Talynonyx wrote:
Maybe you should familiarize yourself with the lore about Cayden Cailean before going off on these rants. It specifically says drinking to excess is heavily frowned upon.
Says the god who became a god by drinking in excess. Hmm...

You know, it shows learning by experience. You never done something and later advised other not to repeat your mistakes? ;)


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Mojorat wrote:
There probly wouldnt be any rules, as far as i know the idea that stuff you eat can be harmful to babies is really a modern thing. though i may be wrong on that.

This.

Not drinking during pregnancy is a relatively new development. I say you continue drinking as before and your DM assigns a % per drink to having your child develop fetal alcohol syndrome.

OR don't worry about it and have a healthy baby since you are so damned heroic that your god protects the child.


Nepherti wrote:
People keep talking about the "unsafe water" aspect. In Pathfinder, isn't there a fairly easy way to clean water via a divine caster? Therefore, you don't need to drink alcohol simply because "it's safer than water." Unless that spell for some reason isn't available to the masses. I agree with whoever said that drinking would be forcing drunkenness on the fetus, thereby going against Cayden Cailean's desire for Freedom.

Going to have to go with the whole why are you bothering clerics all the time for water? Don't they have something better too do? Also Individuals with access to spells aren't exactly super common. How many priests/pastors/holy men IRL do you know? A couple outside of your faith, and however many inside your faith. How annoyed would they be if everybody in their congregation went to them every time they needed water to drink, or to get rid of the spoilage on their food?

Then there is the whole tavern issue. If you have fresh water and refreshed food all the time, why even make beer? The whole purpose of beer is to preserve crops (liquid bread) and incidentally also have a safe drink. Without taverns where do low level PCs get their quests?

Also the problems with fetal alcohol is a bit overblown. There are numerous articles about that yes, women can still drink while pregnant, just not to excess. The whole reason why the "don't drink while pregnant" is around is the assumption that experts have about the average person: People are to stupid to know exactly how much is too much, so lets tell them that they can't have any.

Problem is Zero tolerance = zero risk mentality eliminates freedom of choice, and doesn't increase education of parents. It's also really lazy, because its become "hand out a list of things you can't do without explaining it". Yeah, there are so many things that you aren't suppose to do that many people just tune it all out and live how they want to live in ignorance. "Limit Salt" Oh, if you don't get enough you will die, we don't really know where the line is since its different for everybody, but hears a list of foods you shouldn't eat.


notabot wrote:
Nepherti wrote:
People keep talking about the "unsafe water" aspect. In Pathfinder, isn't there a fairly easy way to clean water via a divine caster? Therefore, you don't need to drink alcohol simply because "it's safer than water." Unless that spell for some reason isn't available to the masses. I agree with whoever said that drinking would be forcing drunkenness on the fetus, thereby going against Cayden Cailean's desire for Freedom.
If you have fresh water and refreshed food all the time, why even make beer?

As the great Jim Jeffries once said,

“Ever asked a non-drinker why they don't drink? same f%*~ing answer, "I don't like the taste of it." NONE OF US DO! Nobody likes the taste of it! Nobodies ever had a shot of tequila and said "oh, that was lovely! I think I'll have that next time instead of pudding. It's so morish." We drink because we f$&%ing have to. We drink because life's [a] *ladysmith black mambazo* and you gotta do whatever it takes to get through the day.”

:)

Silver Crusade

Orthos wrote:

On the one hand, I love the idea.

On the other, if one of my old players discovers it I will never be able to get him to play anything else....

Here

If you want to help make it, here it is.

Silver Crusade

Odraude wrote:
notabot wrote:
Nepherti wrote:
People keep talking about the "unsafe water" aspect. In Pathfinder, isn't there a fairly easy way to clean water via a divine caster? Therefore, you don't need to drink alcohol simply because "it's safer than water." Unless that spell for some reason isn't available to the masses. I agree with whoever said that drinking would be forcing drunkenness on the fetus, thereby going against Cayden Cailean's desire for Freedom.
If you have fresh water and refreshed food all the time, why even make beer?

As the great Jim Jeffries once said,

“Ever asked a non-drinker why they don't drink? same f%~&ing answer, "I don't like the taste of it." NONE OF US DO! Nobody likes the taste of it! Nobodies ever had a shot of tequila and said "oh, that was lovely! I think I'll have that next time instead of pudding. It's so morish." We drink because we f&*%ing have to. We drink because life's [a] *ladysmith black mambazo* and you gotta do whatever it takes to get through the day.”

:)

Hey, a nice Rose wine tastes quite good with the right meat. It is my favorite to go along a red meat roast. Though I do avoid dryer forms of drink, ick. The strongest drink I have is Sake, and that's only ever when I'm having sushi or sashimi.


Drejk wrote:
Ashiel wrote:
Talynonyx wrote:
Maybe you should familiarize yourself with the lore about Cayden Cailean before going off on these rants. It specifically says drinking to excess is heavily frowned upon.
Says the god who became a god by drinking in excess. Hmm...
You know, it shows learning by experience. You never done something and later advised other not to repeat your mistakes? ;)

Gaining literal godlike power is not the same as saying "And then I ran over a small child with my wagon on the way home". One sounds like a hard lesson learned. The other sounds like a joke.

"Now don't you kids go off and get smashed, because something really bad might happen." - "Yeah, you might become a god! Lolz!" :P

Now the deity of beauty is pretty cool. Once you get past her almost Mary Sue like repetition of "most beautiful perfect beauty of beautifulness whom everyone loves and admires except that one god who is literally anti-everything", she's actually pretty cool and the cursed glaive and hints of sibling discourse (or intercourse :P) are interesting touches to add a bit more than "I'm pretty and everyone, even my enemies, love me".


Odraude wrote:

As the great Jim Jeffries once said,

“Ever asked a non-drinker why they don't drink? same f#%@ing answer, "I don't like the taste of it." NONE OF US DO! Nobody likes the taste of it! Nobodies ever had a shot of tequila and said "oh, that was lovely! I think I'll have that next time instead of pudding. It's so morish." We drink because we f~$$ing have to. We drink because life's [a] *ladysmith black mambazo* and you gotta do whatever it takes to get through the day.”

Whoa there, monkeybutter, speak for yourself. I mean, tequila, okay, maybe a case could be made, but I adore the taste of a good beer.

(Pedantic disclaimer: Yes I realize saying I like the taste of something I consider good is redundant, but my argument is that some are good, rather than all, so shush.)


As far from what I've been seeing, people have also forgot to note the difference between old mead and newer beers.

Back then, they didn't put in very much alcohol in their meads and wines, especially those like grog and standard cheap drinks. It would take a LOT of tankards back in Medieval times for one person to even become tipsy. Nowadays, it only takes a few beers or shots of hard liquor, but back then it took awhile for you to actually get influenced by alcohol. Most people made meads and grogs as preservatives, not for getting drunk like they are now.

Secondly, as far as the crazy alchemist injecting things into you, I can see something related to the arcane arts happen or heck, even something along the lines of the Hulk. You know, the child might be so overexposed to the arcane arts, they might be able to adapt easier to it and it comes natural to them. So, your lineage could easily become a sorcerer instead. Or, as with the Hulk idea, the Alchemist might have infused some mutagen inside of you, and the kid would come out looking normal, but turn into a monster when angered/under emotional stress.


Cyberwolf2xs wrote:
Sean K Reynolds wrote:
Be European?
Yeah, right... An American trying to make a joke about European habits. :D

I think he joked about Alcohol being cheaper than milk and a few other liquides in some European countries, so in those places, people are more likely to drink alcohol often (and develop resistence to alcohol effects).


Odraude wrote:

I did a little searching for you in my 3.5 repository, as I recalled there being rules for pregnancy in the Book of Erotic Fantasy. From what I can see, they are as followed:

- 1st Trimester: Nothing
- 2nd Trimester: Movement reduced by one quarter (round down), -2 to Dexterity.
- 3rd Trimester: Movement reduced by half, -4 penalty to Dexterity, -2 to Strength.

As for the booze part, I agree with the other. She doesn't have to drink.

I hope this helps in your decision making.

That's sorta like what I said at the beginning!

@ the OP: I agree w/myself and others; there should be no adverse reprecussions and infact a good deal of support from your church. Small beer, panaceas, cure diseases, etc.

And tell the dwarf he can stick you again after he carries a bowling ball in his stomach for nine months and then passes it from between his legs.

My wife has been pregnant twice. Both times yes; every woman within 30' instantly became "friendly" and should be considered under the effect of a Charm Person if they're allowed to touch your stomach. And also yes; she picked up a gaze attack for nine months at a time. Hers wasn't fire or disintegration; hers was ice-based. "Honey, you feeling ok?" was met with a stare which, upon a failed save, froze the blood right in your VEINS!


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You know, Cayden's assention is about more than being drunk. The other half of his portfolio is about being totally outmatched but pulling through by luck and strength of character.

He's actually one of my favorites in the Golarion pantheon because of how he's basically a folk hero.


Belle Mythix wrote:
Cyberwolf2xs wrote:
Sean K Reynolds wrote:
Be European?
Yeah, right... An American trying to make a joke about European habits. :D
I think he joked about Alcohol being cheaper than milk and a few other liquides in some European countries, so in those places, people are more likely to drink alcohol often (and develop resistence to alcohol effects).

Just watched a show called Book Group. A woman from Sweden called Dierka was pregnant and showing in an episode and depicted as having a glass of white wine w/dinner. She was also shown during other eipsodes as being pregnant and smoking/drinking cofee. The show is from England and the fiction is based in Glascow (SP?).

Is that all European enough, or is that satire, or am I just an ugly American? Actually that last part is rethorical - I'm a TERRIBLE ambassador for my country...

Silver Crusade

Mark Hoover wrote:


@ the OP: I agree w/myself and others; there should be no adverse reprecussions and infact a good deal of support from your church. Small beer, panaceas, cure diseases, etc.

And tell the dwarf he can stick you again after he carries a bowling ball in his stomach for nine months and then passes it from between his legs.

I've got the BoEF and used it to chart how long my character would be carrying her baby.

She's a native outsider, but an outsider. A celestial one.

She's got a month per hit die, and got pregnant at level 3.

Anywho...

She's going to be pregnant for level 3, (according to the laws of the GM. Which is fine for me, means I can get back to killing things faster)

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blackbloodtroll wrote:
Pregnant women are smug.

Everyone knows it.

Nobody says it because they're pregnant.


Belle Mythix wrote:
Cyberwolf2xs wrote:
Sean K Reynolds wrote:
Be European?
Yeah, right... An American trying to make a joke about European habits. :D
I think he joked about Alcohol being cheaper than milk and a few other liquides in some European countries, so in those places, people are more likely to drink alcohol often (and develop resistence to alcohol effects).

So he hasn't been to Scandinavia, obviously, where it is cheaper to fuel you car than to buy a bottle of brandy.... Alcohol being cheap somewhere in Europe is a tell-tale sign that life in that country also is very cheap. That includes milk^^ Perhaps not latte-free soy-whatever though...

Problem is that anyone with a hint of knowledge can "easily" built and hide away a distillery in his backyard. Add potatoes/Grain-mash/fruit. Hence : cheap !

As for the OP : even as a pregnant mother I'd worry more about being impregnated and surviving on the pirate (!) ship than about "how much can the baby stand".

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Ashiel wrote:
Drejk wrote:
Ashiel wrote:
Talynonyx wrote:
Maybe you should familiarize yourself with the lore about Cayden Cailean before going off on these rants. It specifically says drinking to excess is heavily frowned upon.
Says the god who became a god by drinking in excess. Hmm...
You know, it shows learning by experience. You never done something and later advised other not to repeat your mistakes? ;)

Gaining literal godlike power is not the same as saying "And then I ran over a small child with my wagon on the way home". One sounds like a hard lesson learned. The other sounds like a joke.

"Now don't you kids go off and get smashed, because something really bad might happen." - "Yeah, you might become a god! Lolz!" :P

Now the deity of beauty is pretty cool. Once you get past her almost Mary Sue like repetition of "most beautiful perfect beauty of beautifulness whom everyone loves and admires except that one god who is literally anti-everything", she's actually pretty cool and the cursed glaive and hints of sibling discourse (or intercourse :P) are interesting touches to add a bit more than "I'm pretty and everyone, even my enemies, love me".

Help me out here.

Is this reductio ad nauseum or reductio ad absurdum?


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Cayden with a rapier and a b%!&#in' mug of GROG!!!

Caption this image, 'kay?

1) "The Church of Cayden Cailean always urges you to drink responsibly."

2) "Rapiers are dangerous. Never operate them while intoxicated."

or

3) "TO-GA!!! TO-GA!!! TO-GA!!!"

So,....I can see where somebody missed the part of the Church dogma about not drinking to excess.


How is this even an issue? If the woman is a cleric in good standing, I am sure she will be protected against the negative effects of alcohol.

Which are not covered in the rules. Like so many other health issues. Why are vegetarian elves allowed to have a positive strength modifier when supplements to remedy the drawbacks of such a diet does not exist? Why did Gandalf never get lung cancer? Etc etc.


I would like to address all of the "why" sciencey questions that have been posed in this thread:

'CUZ MAGIC.

Any further questions, please see above.


Three words: Drink grape juice.


Alakqualyn wrote:
Three words: Drink grape juice.

Before or after?


Drejk wrote:
Alakqualyn wrote:
Three words: Drink grape juice.
Before or after?

During; it helps with the pushing. Wait, that's for a number 2...

So...did we resolve anything?


Mark Hoover wrote:
So...did we resolve anything?

Drink in measures, pray to Cayden and his magic and more importantly survive until delivery.

Make way for the preggie pirate !


Devastation Bob wrote:
Designated driver.

That's called the horse


BigNorseWolf wrote:
Devastation Bob wrote:
Designated driver.
That's called the horse

F your Designated Driver; I've a HORSE out back

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