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Kybryn wrote:
My personal belief, and this you should quote me on, is that for a society to have long term survivability, there must be a foundation on unchangeable principles.

There are no such things as unchangeable principles in the natural world. There's just stuff. Jesus was all about smashing these so called unchangeable principles. That's why he copped it. Change, and as Jesus proved, revolution are sometimes necessary for healthy growth.


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meatrace wrote:
Crimson Jester wrote:
OK, yet so many adherents do treat it much like a fat man in a donut shop. As such to some it is such a lifestyle choice that it might as well be a religion to them being as it is the core of their identity.

It's rather convenient to use words like "some" isn't it, when you don't have to provide any evidence?

Even as strong an atheist as I am, I consider my friends, my hobbies, my academic pursuits, my musical and film tastes, all much more important to my self-identity than my atheism and/or irreligion. And even to my close friends, who are almost uniformly atheists, I'm the REALLY atheist one.

I'm also an atheist, although maybe not as strongly as meatrace. I'm not religiously anti-God any more than I am religiously anti-magic, religiously anti-dragon, or religiously anti-James Bond. They just don't exist. My denial of the existence of God doesn't affect my life or self-identity any more than my denial of the existence of James Bond.

They're both good stories though. I like stories. And I understand why they are/were important for people to understand the world they live(d) in. Stories and symbols are important. But I've yet to hear any good argument as to why I should believe in the objective existence of the Christian God any more than I should believe in Thor. I mean, Thor's really more my kind of deity.


The Norse mythology does have a theme of fatalism to it that is rather attractive...


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Just for the record. The name is close, but that ain't me ya'll...


Crimson Jester wrote:
OK, yet so many adherents do treat it much like a fat man in a donut shop. As such to some it is such a lifestyle choice that it might as well be a religion to them being as it is the core of their identity.

You're still barking up the "atheism is a religion" tree. That's an argument some theist made up to criticize atheists, and it sounds so good to the god-dependent, they all repeat it now.

Repeating something over and over doesn't make it true. It's up to atheists to define their atheism. We don't need to be told what we think.

I can assure you that when I'm on a sinking ship or a crashing plane, I won't be praying for deliverance to something I don't believe in, despite what you tell yourself.


Let's try this one on for size:

OK, yet so many Christians who believe homosexuality is an abomination do treat it much like a fat man in a donut shop. As such to some it is such a lifestyle choice that it might as well be a religion to them being as it is the core of their identity.

Great! Now we can both throw stones. I call first!

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CourtFool wrote:

Let's try this one on for size:

OK, yet so many Christians who believe homosexuality is an abomination do treat it much like a fat man in a donut shop. As such to some it is such a lifestyle choice that it might as well be a religion to them being as it is the core of their identity.

Great! Now we can both throw stones. I call first!

Fred Phelps... Your point is made.

My point is that there are a few people, who have all but made it their life mission to be the voice of atheists. I use terms like some, so as not to belittle those who do not do this. I don't want to be falsely accused of singling any poster here out.


Crimson Jester wrote:
My point is that there are a few people, who have all but made it their life mission to be the voice of atheists.

This is a very different statement than your original one. This one I wholeheartedly agree with, and it's a good thing. SOMEONE has to be the voice for atheists. We don't have any politicians of note, and we certainly don't have clergy. We don't get special privileges at work, school, or in the military. Atheists are, by polling, the most distrusted minority.


Bullshiznit. All I ever want to talk about is communism.


Jean-Paul Sartre, Intrnet Troll wrote:
Bullshiznit. All I ever want to talk about is communism.

Different religion.


Or, pretty much the same one, according to that [insert French swearing here] Camus.


Jean-Paul Sartre, Intrnet Troll wrote:

Or, pretty much the same one, according to that [insert French swearing here] Camus.

It depends on the dogma involved.


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Why a foo gotta cuss Camus?


SON, I AM DISAPPOINT. wrote:
Why a foo gotta cuss Camus?

Because it's in character.


Jean-Paul Sartre, Intrnet Troll wrote:
SON, I AM DISAPPOINT. wrote:
Why a foo gotta cuss Camus?
Because it's in character.

Wuh,....you can't wup him man to man in an existential steel cage death match, so you gotta have you and your cronys /b bomb his ass all over the interweb with the hyperbolic commie proton torpedoes.

Yeah, that's right.

I don't parley vous, but I know plenty a something about talkin' Smackinese.


What cronies?

He tried to muscle in on Simone, and I was like, "Sacre bleu! you chien pied noir! Get your own second sex!"


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Bill Mahar is a psionic pteradactyl from Pellucidar. I don't trust him, or his atheist servitors.


Jean-Paul Sartre, Intrnet Troll wrote:

What cronies?

He tried to muscle in on Simone, and I was like, "Sacre bleu! you chien pied noir! Get your own second sex!"

But she's the girl from Ipenema!


Now you're all just babbling.

Atheism is serous bidness.


Dwayne Dibbley wrote:
Jean-Paul Sartre, Intrnet Troll wrote:

What cronies?

He tried to muscle in on Simone, and I was like, "Sacre bleu! you chien pied noir! Get your own second sex!"

But she's the girl from Ipenema!

You're just trying to work Stan Getz into the conversation.


Jean-Paul Sartre, Intrnet Troll wrote:
Dwayne Dibbley wrote:
Jean-Paul Sartre, Intrnet Troll wrote:

What cronies?

He tried to muscle in on Simone, and I was like, "Sacre bleu! you chien pied noir! Get your own second sex!"

But she's the girl from Ipenema!
You're just trying to work Stan Getz into the conversation.

I have to mellow out some how. I'm crushing diamonds at the moment.


I'm just talking s&%#; don't mind me.....


Spanky the Leprechaun wrote:
I'm just talking s*!+; don't mind me.....

Aw-oooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

Liberty's Edge

Werewolf of London wrote:
Spanky the Leprechaun wrote:
I'm just talking s*!+; don't mind me.....
Aw-oooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

Hey, Nigel.....get a haircut.


I'll rip out your lungs, Jim!


Anyway, I know I'm in the extreme minority here, but I miss the pre-"Hide Thread" days.

Ah, good times.


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Werewolf of London wrote:
I'll rip out your lungs, Jim!

"I saw Karl Marx walking by Trafalgar Square.....

Handin' out pamphlets.
I saw Karl Marx walking by Trafalgar Square.....
and his beard was perfect."


Doodlebug Anklebiter wrote:

Anyway, I know I'm in the extreme minority here, but I miss the pre-"Hide Thread" days.

Ah, good times.

why?


Because we don't get pages like this in the troll threads anymore.


I think the only philosophical question worth answering is this:
assuming there is no God, and no "hide thread" function,
why not just cause an epic derailment and trainwreck?


I wonder if Sartre and Camus would argue over an episode of MLP: Friendship is Magic?


Synergistic weirdiosity!

I was just looking up what the f@#+ a bronie was.


Mad Hermit Runecaster wrote:

I think the only philosophical question worth answering is this:

assuming there is no God, and no "hide thread" function,
why not just cause an epic derailment and trainwreck?

Exactly. And I always thought that was fun.


Jean-Paul Sartre, Intrnet Troll wrote:
Mad Hermit Runecaster wrote:

I think the only philosophical question worth answering is this:

assuming there is no God, and no "hide thread" function,
why not just cause an epic derailment and trainwreck?

Exactly. And I always thought that was fun.

You are SO going to burn in the fires of Hell.


Jean-Paul Sartre, Intrnet Troll wrote:

Synergistic weirdiosity!

I was just looking up what the f!!$ a bronie was.

I just started lookin at MLP: Friendship is Magic.....


A highly regarded expert wrote:
Jean-Paul Sartre, Intrnet Troll wrote:
Mad Hermit Runecaster wrote:

I think the only philosophical question worth answering is this:

assuming there is no God, and no "hide thread" function,
why not just cause an epic derailment and trainwreck?

Exactly. And I always thought that was fun.

You are SO going to burn in the fires of Hell.

I'm forgiven.

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