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Does anyone know if this 3rd party company is still operational.

What few products they had for Carrion Crown was excellent and other products were in the works. I think there was one product announced last august....

Dreamscarred Press

I see posts by Neil from their Facebook page, so my guess is stuff is in the works, they just haven't been keeping folks updated at this site.


Hmmmm. The last post on these boards reffered to a tentative release for Gencon of last year, and now, the website is practically as dead as all those residents in Rappan Athuk.

That's to bad. I have started Carrion Crown and those plug-ins would have been extra goodness. Oh well!


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I was still holding out for the Serpent's Skull plug in that was (briefly) mentioned. Great shame.

Scarab Sages

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This was the last update I saw:
here

Dark Archive

Clark for good or ill has been pretty busy with RL of late. I know several of their products are close to completion, but unsure exactly where they are. I sent Clark a email about this thread and a URL to it. So hopefully if he has time he can pop in and update people in the next few days.


Dallas, TX, (June 7th 2012) – FROG GOD GAMES, the makers of roleplaying games and books, today announced that they are acquiring Necromancer Games, the award-winning publishing house known for Necropolis, Rappan Athuk, City of Brass, Tomb of Abysthor, Crucible of Freya, Tome of Horrors, and many other famous titles

I wonder what the acquisiton of NG by FGG will mean for LG...

I know Clark has a very busy PL and all. Maybe Greg who was involved in some of the plug-ins has some info.

Greg? you out there?

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They have a Facebook page, and Neil Spicer has been posting a few updates of what he's working on there.


ChristinaStiles wrote:
They have a Facebook page, and Neil Spicer has been posting a few updates of what he's working on there.

Don't have one. Can you summerize, pretty please, with sugar on it?


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Dark_Mistress wrote:
Clark for good or ill has been pretty busy with RL of late. I know several of their products are close to completion, but unsure exactly where they are. I sent Clark a email about this thread and a URL to it. So hopefully if he has time he can pop in and update people in the next few days.

Perfect. Thank you.

Sovereign Court

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@Gondolin

Neil Spicer on Facebook wrote:


There are a couple of new products supporting the Gothic Horror campaign (aka Carrion Crown) starting to move through the development pipeline. The team is currently targeting a release date at or around PaizoCon. The "Murmuring Fountain" side-trek adventure is among them. And I know a lot of LG fans have been waiting to see what that'll look like. It'll be awesome, of course. Written by Clark Peterson and Jason Nelson. ;-)
Neil Spicer on Facebook wrote:


Turned over 5 of 8 new character writeups to Hugo Solis last night so he can start sketching for a new Legendary Games product. I'm on vacation next week, but would like to finish the other 3 when I get back. Each one just needs a few hundred words or so of character background and personality traits.
Neil Spicer on Facebook wrote:


Hey, Preston. Yes. It's coming out. The product is currently in the development stage (i.e., art and layout). Jason Nelson is overseeing everyone's efforts. It was co-authored by him and Clark Peterson. There's also another Carrion Crown side-trek adventure in the works called "Fiddler's Lament" which is in the development pipeline, too. It's written by Greg A. Vaughan.


Cool. thanks for the info.

Scarab Sages Contributor, RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4, Legendary Games

Legendary Games is, in fact, still a going concern. We jest bin 'sleep fo' a while. :)

In all seriousness, Legendary Games is in fact ready to hit the comeback trail STARTING AT PAIZOCON 2012. Neil and I will be there, as will Tim Wickham our excellent layout man. I am pretty sure Boomer will be present as well, though Clark probably will not be able to make it and I am not sure about Greg and Colby Stevenson, one of our artists. Hugo Solis is raising some dough and hoping to make it as well.

Besides us personally, we will be releasing two mini-adventures to accompany Carrion Crown: "The Murmuring Fountain" co-written by Clark and I, and the "Fiddler's Lament," which are both plug-in adventures for the Haunting of Harrowstone. These adventures play off of the atmosphere and themes of the AP, as well as helping to resolve the issue of being able to raise enough of a positive reputation with the townsfolk to turn events your way in the adventure.

Following PaizoCon, we plan to release further products biweekly, including the "Tomes of Ancient Knowledge," a collection of creepy and horribulous spellbooks and magicks arcane and divine, and the "Construct Codex," a monster supplement detailing 10 elaborately horror-themed constructs. The "Tomes" supplement should come out two weeks following PaizoCon and the Construct Codex following that.

This will tie up our product releases for the Carrion Crown AP, but we are not finished. In fact, following on the heels of these products will be Neil Spicer's fantastic follow-up to his Gothic Heroes pregen product, a set of delightfully detailed pregens for use with a certain recent AP involving the destined empress of a faraway Asian-themed land of high fantasy and adventure. Additional products will be following in support of this AP, but the naughty minx that is Dark Mistress would most likely punish me in a fashion that is illegal in several states if I said any more about them at this point. :)

We at Legendary Games appreciate your continued interest and support even though things have been less than active on our end. All we can say is that a new day is dawning, and we are ready to rock and roll!

Sovereign Court

Looks great !

Frog God Games

Gondolin wrote:

Dallas, TX, (June 7th 2012) – FROG GOD GAMES, the makers of roleplaying games and books, today announced that they are acquiring Necromancer Games, the award-winning publishing house known for Necropolis, Rappan Athuk, City of Brass, Tomb of Abysthor, Crucible of Freya, Tome of Horrors, and many other famous titles

I wonder what the acquisition of NG by FGG will mean for LG...

I know Clark has a very busy PL and all. Maybe Greg who was involved in some of the plug-ins has some info.

Greg? you out there?

Hi just got back into town and saw this. Neil pretty well summed up the state of the union for Legendary Games. As for the FGG announcement, there is no connection. Legendary was not a part of Necro, and the acquisition of Necro does not affect Legendary Games.


Yay for the good news! I am very eager to see new products from your company, Mister Nelson.


Thanks for the quick response Greg. I know this time of year is very busy for all involved in this industry and I appreciate you taking the time.

Glad to see I now have 2 third party publishers coming up with lors of goodies and that both LG and FGG/NG are going strong.

Grand Lodge

It's nice to see that this company's still working and bringing out content.

Scarab Sages Contributor, RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4, Legendary Games

Just got in the art for "Tomes of Ancient Knowledge" and it looks great. Our plan had been to release it 2 weeks after PaizoCon to start up our more regular releases, but if it's good to go we may just add it to the con list!


The one I am hoping for, soon, is Fountain since it is of level range we are at right now IIRC.


Jason Nelson wrote:

Legendary Games is, in fact, still a going concern. We jest bin 'sleep fo' a while. :)

In all seriousness, Legendary Games is in fact ready to hit the comeback trail STARTING AT PAIZOCON 2012. Neil and I will be there, as will Tim Wickham our excellent layout man. I am pretty sure Boomer will be present as well, though Clark probably will not be able to make it and I am not sure about Greg and Colby Stevenson, one of our artists. Hugo Solis is raising some dough and hoping to make it as well.

We at Legendary Games appreciate your continued interest...

FYI, if you are not aware, your domain name has expired so, your site is no longer accessible.

Contributor, RPG Superstar 2009, RPG Superstar Judgernaut

Gondolin wrote:
FYI, if you are not aware, your domain name has expired so, your site is no longer accessible.

Yep. We are aware. It's registered in Clark's name (who's been super-busy in real-life), so it's been slow going to get it reinstated. It's in the works, though.

Contributor, RPG Superstar 2009, RPG Superstar Judgernaut

Another update on future products: I finished penning the first installment for the next AP series, which we can hopefully announce at PaizoCon. Just because I've finished the written turnover doesn't mean it'll be available right away, though. Our layout and art experts have to do their thing. And, most of them are locked in on completing the Gothic-themed plug-in material we did for the Carrion Crown AP.

Still, there's more around the corner...

Liberty's Edge

Jason Nelson wrote:
... Tim Wickham our excellent layout man...

Shiny!


Interesting! Since I'm planning to run Carrion Crown soon, I'll have to keep my eye on this...


Neil, hurry up with the carrion crown plug-ins , my party has just entered the prison and they are only level 2, the fools. Oh the inhumanity!!!!!! :-)


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Neil Spicer wrote:

Another update on future products: I finished penning the first installment for the next AP series, which we can hopefully announce at PaizoCon. Just because I've finished the written turnover doesn't mean it'll be available right away, though. Our layout and art experts have to do their thing. And, most of them are locked in on completing the Gothic-themed plug-in material we did for the Carrion Crown AP.

Still, there's more around the corner...

Did anything ever happen on the suggested Serpent's Skull plug ins, or is that AP now too far in the past to be worthwhile?

Dark Archive

theneofish wrote:
Did anything ever happen on the suggested Serpent's Skull plug ins, or is that AP now too far in the past to be worthwhile?

It better not be, I still want Kingmaker plug ins...

Contributor, RPG Superstar 2009, RPG Superstar Judgernaut

Essentially, no AP is "too far in the past" for us to take on. Paizo's APs have legs that far outlive their original release date. The problem is, we can't take them all on at once. And, when we do tackle one, we try and make sure we give it multi-product support so the releases hopefully synergize a bit and widen everyone's experience enough that they'll pick them up as a set rather than onesie-twosie.

We also have a limited number of authors/designers, most of whom all have additional commitments to Paizo, Frog God/Necromancer, etc. So, it's not like we can rush into Serpent's Skull or Kingmaker as quickly as some of you might want (or even as some of us may want). We have to get our ducks in a row and knock these out as we can. And, as we go along, Paizo keeps releasing more and more APs. So, we have both the current releases and the older releases to consider when we're thinking about which AP to do next.

I'm a proponent of trying to pursue a series of newer AP products and a series of older AP products in any given year...i.e., a 6-month cycle of activity in which we try and match an AP plug-in series to the same 6-month cycle it takes for Paizo to release a new AP. But again, a lot of our ability to pursue that kind of release schedule depends on everyone's availability to do enough complementary products to do justice to any given AP, you know?

So, that's some of the challenges we face at Legendary Games. Our product release schedule isn't at all what you might expect from most other Pathfinder-compatible 3PPs. We're very deliberate in our selection of projects. And that's based both on our availability as writers, artists, layout designers and on what we perceive as a good AP plug-in series to pursue (i.e., which ones would generate the most interest/sales).

In terms of that latter consideration, sometimes the better selling products will hinge on one of Paizo's newer APs as people get really excited about them. And, sometimes it'll hinge on some of Paizo's less well-received APs in an effort to breathe new life into them and get people to give them a second chance. Kingmaker is a good example of the former (even though it's becoming an older release now) and Serpent's Skull is probably a good example of the latter. They're both on our radar screen as potential targets. But we'll need to marshall everyone's interest in a good spread of products to support them before we get rolling with either.

Jason may want to comment further here, but that's just my two cents,
--Neil


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Neil Spicer wrote:

Essentially, no AP is "too far in the past" for us to take on. Paizo's APs have legs that far outlive their original release date. The problem is, we can't take them all on at once. And, when we do tackle one, we try and make sure we give it multi-product support so the releases hopefully synergize a bit and widen everyone's experience enough that they'll pick them up as a set rather than onesie-twosie.

Thanks for the detailed explanation Neil, that all makes perfect sense. Hopefully we can look forward to some of the older and arguably less popular APs being supported further down the line, once Legendary Games springs back into life and there's a firmer product schedule.

Scarab Sages Contributor, RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4, Legendary Games

Neil has the right of it. Part of the idea of Legendary Games is to get a group of great people together to work on support products for the APs, but part of making those great products is finding ideas that really fire our imaginations. We aren't going to do a product that WE aren't excited about doing just to fill a slot on the schedule or to have uniform coverage for all APs.

Take the "Treasury of the Macabre" for instance. I love creating magic items, but we may be less likely to do a product like that for newer APs, given that starting with Jade Regent Paizo has made a more specific and explicit appendix for each AP issue that incorporates 2 pages of magic items or similar items. Thus, there's not as much need for a product like that as for the older APs where that element did not exist in the AP, or existed only haphazardly, with a handful of items scattered throughout the AP. That said, if I or one of our other contributors has a great idea for a batch of items that really hit the themes of an AP (and, ideally, have great cross-applicability for other campaigns outside of the AP), then by all means we will go forward.

Paizo's APs are rather 'evergreen' in their appeal. People are still playing Rise of the Runelords just as they're playing Skull & Shackles. We do have plans to capitalize on newer APs and to reach back to older ones, but as Neil stated one of our guiding principles is that we'd rather tackle an AP with several products at once than just dribble out a product for this and a product for that here and there. That's partly because it makes more sense from an art and layout perspective on our end, but also because it gives you the public a much better chance to get mutually supporting products that work together and take your AP or your non-AP campaign to another level.

Right now, it looks like we are good to go for two adventures and the "Tomes of Arcane Knowledge" products for a PaizoCon release, with the "Construct Codex" to follow soon thereafter. Our next product series will be in support of the Jade Regent AP, including some similar products to what we've done before (like Neil's pregens and an adventuree or two) but also some new and different product concepts. We'll see how you the public enjoy them, and the ones people love (and BUY!) we'll definitely push up the list as ones to repeat for other APs.

As always, our commitment is to absolute quality and innovative design, and we hope you have as much fun using our products as we do making them!


Thanks to Jason and Neil.

Please understand that it has been a year since we heard about the mini-adventures such as fountain and that I am SO looking forward for this along with any other products you have in store.

I bought the pregens and showed them to the players who gave it a rapid glance with no comments. I thought : «this is strange!» They all made up their own characters. We have been playing HoH for 8 weeks now and the party is now just exploring the ground floor. Last night my son walks by and says : Oh by the way, I looked at the pregens and they are great, I especially like the elven PI type. I told him it was about time he took a serious look at the pregens now that he was playing one of his design. But it is nice to know he will have a backup when his witch dies. Mwahaha!

The group also found a seance candle in the crypt of the Restlands which they plan on using it the prison.

So to all of you out there who are still hesistant, these supplements rock! Buy them!

That is all.


Ah! The site is back up!

Contributor, RPG Superstar 2009, RPG Superstar Judgernaut

Yep. Jason and Clark worked out the glitch. And fires are glowing in the Legendary forge again. With PaizoCon just a few days away, we should have at least a few things to talk about then.

Scarab Sages Contributor, RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4, Legendary Games

Tru dat, some announcements larger than others... :)


My request is that you get them up here after you make them there. Some of us aren't able to make Paizocon, but would still like to get the news!

-Aaron

Scarab Sages Contributor, RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4, Legendary Games

Aaron aka Itchy wrote:

My request is that you get them up here after you make them there. Some of us aren't able to make Paizocon, but would still like to get the news!

-Aaron

I believe we will have the product online and ready to buy by PaizoCon, both here and (hopefully) on DrivethruRPG, assuming no technical glitches along the way. Once they're up, you can buy, Buy, BUY!!! (3 buys, since it'll be 3 products, see!)


3 products eh! Take my money, why dont you?

You only mentioned DrivethryRPG.... what about paizo?Will they be available here like the first two?

Contributor, RPG Superstar 2009, RPG Superstar Judgernaut

I certainly hope so. If not, we'll be visiting with a few people who can make it happen. :-)

Scarab Sages Contributor, RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4, Legendary Games

Gondolin wrote:

3 products eh! Take my money, why dont you?

You only mentioned DrivethryRPG.... what about paizo?Will they be available here like the first two?

Not to worry, my friend; look again: "both here and (hopefully) DrivethruRPG"!

Paizo.com is where it's at!


At the risk of sounding obvious and cliché :

Paizo rocks!
LG rocks!
FGG/NG rocks!

Big time!

@Jason : quite right. I was so excited by the annoucement I just raced past the note. My bad, but a fogiveable one I would think.


Also, this being summer and all and with things slowing down, my Carrion Crown is pretty much on hiatus, so I think I will shelve it 'till septembre.


Gondolin wrote:
Also, this being summer and all and with things slowing down, my Carrion Crown is pretty much on hiatus, so I think I will shelve it 'till septembre.

My players outvoted me and want to keep playing Carrion Crown even if attendance will be lower along with session frequency.

But hey! Who cares? We just got 3 plug-ins for the path. Can hardly wait to run the two mini-modules..... Thanks LG! Got'em all!

Scarab Sages Contributor, RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4, Legendary Games

Gondolin wrote:
Gondolin wrote:
Also, this being summer and all and with things slowing down, my Carrion Crown is pretty much on hiatus, so I think I will shelve it 'till septembre.

My players outvoted me and want to keep playing Carrion Crown even if attendance will be lower along with session frequency.

But hey! Who cares? We just got 3 plug-ins for the path. Can hardly wait to run the two mini-modules..... Thanks LG! Got'em all!

Thank YOU, Gondolin! Enjoy!


I have done a complete read-through of Fidler's Lament and just started Murmuring Fountain.

I am quite impressed by Lament and how it is set up. I think playing Saint-Saens' Danse Macabre during the session will be quite a-propos for this encounter with the violin featured in that piece.

As for the Fountain, the mix of genres (Poe/Lovecraft) is original. The name of the raven is too obvious, but my players may well not make the connection, them being francophone and Poe not being required reading at school. Haven't finished it so don't know how it will end yet.

Have not started ToaKnowledge yet.

All I can say is more-more-more!

Anything else planned for the other volumes in this AP? Yes, I know, I am a pest for wanting to give you my money.... ;-)

Contributor, RPG Superstar 2009, RPG Superstar Judgernaut

Gondolin wrote:
Anything else planned for the other volumes in this AP? Yes, I know, I am a pest for wanting to give you my money.... ;-)

Yes. Jason still has the Construct Codex coming out. Here's the blurb from the LG website about it:

The Legendary Games website wrote:
Construct Codex: From the crowflight carriage, a shining black carriage construct drawn by spectral horses used by vampire lords, to the living crematory, an automaton that roams battlefields disposing of the dead in a frighteningly efficient manner; from the stained glass knight, a gleaming construct designed to defend cathedrals, to the dire organ, a magnificent instrument possessed of prideful majesty and dire dirges, the Codex is a supplement containing 11 gothic-themed constructs to flesh out a world of gothic horror.

So, basically, it's a gothic-themed bestiary specifically focusing on constructs suitable for that genre.

Frog God Games

Gondolin wrote:
I think playing Saint-Saens' Danse Macabre during the session will be quite a-propos for this encounter with the violin featured in that piece.

PERFECT!!


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Hey Greg and Neil

Started running Fidler's.

Spoiler:
Didn't have them hear the music right away. They had to make a percetion check once inside the general store.

Not only did they not accept the monlender's generous offer, they even forced the mercenaries to hide the children and the dog from the level 10 gazeebo inside the shop.

They handled the public post incident and are off towards the church.

All in all, players are enjoying the plug-in and the opportunity to rack-up trust points. It is also nice to have a floorplan of the general store. Fountain will be next.

Frog God Games

Glad you're liking it!


A thought on AP support. You guys would be in a good position to make qthe plugins include ways and means to include soem of the Base Classes that Paizo sometimes can't include. Maybe alternate builds for NPCs using different classes. Might ot be entirely feasible, but it is a thought.

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