Mooks and Grims are generally stuck in a variant of the Inverse Ninja Law. The more there are the easier they go down.
It's the one on one fights that should have the most risk and pairing our main characters off with specific antagonists is a good way to go about it. Ruby vs. Cinder is obvious of course in a Leader vs. Leader way as well as their contrasting ideologies.
One of the most tense fights I've seen in RWBY was Yang vs. Neo.
Simply put Neo is a really bad match up for Yang.
Yang is probably unstopable against a Hard Style fighter. That Kinetic absorption means the longer the fight goes the worse it'll get for her opponent.
As soon as I saw Neo was a Soft style fighter it just kind of hit "Yang is screwed" and sure enough Yang got beaten, without the intervention of her mother she probably would have been killed.
That's the kind of threats I'm hoping to see more of (and seeing how Neo is part of Cinder's team for the tournament, I'm hoping for a rematch).
Greylurker wrote: Mooks and Grims are generally stuck in a variant of the Inverse Ninja Law. The more there are the easier they go down.
It's the one on one fights that should have the most risk and pairing our main characters off with specific antagonists is a good way to go about it. Ruby vs. Cinder is obvious of course in a Leader vs. Leader way as well as their contrasting ideologies.
One of the most tense fights I've seen in RWBY was Yang vs. Neo.
Simply put Neo is a really bad match up for Yang.
Yang is probably unstopable against a Hard Style fighter. That Kinetic absorption means the longer the fight goes the worse it'll get for her opponent.
As soon as I saw Neo was a Soft style fighter it just kind of hit "Yang is screwed" and sure enough Yang got beaten, without the intervention of her mother she probably would have been killed.
That's the kind of threats I'm hoping to see more of (and seeing how Neo is part of Cinder's team for the tournament, I'm hoping for a rematch).
Actually, from what we know Neo is not on the team in the tournament. They have only shown 3 team members, but only 2 advance to the second round and we know that it will be Emerald and Mercury.
Caineach wrote: Greylurker wrote: Mooks and Grims are generally stuck in a variant of the Inverse Ninja Law. The more there are the easier they go down.
It's the one on one fights that should have the most risk and pairing our main characters off with specific antagonists is a good way to go about it. Ruby vs. Cinder is obvious of course in a Leader vs. Leader way as well as their contrasting ideologies.
One of the most tense fights I've seen in RWBY was Yang vs. Neo.
Simply put Neo is a really bad match up for Yang.
Yang is probably unstopable against a Hard Style fighter. That Kinetic absorption means the longer the fight goes the worse it'll get for her opponent.
As soon as I saw Neo was a Soft style fighter it just kind of hit "Yang is screwed" and sure enough Yang got beaten, without the intervention of her mother she probably would have been killed.
That's the kind of threats I'm hoping to see more of (and seeing how Neo is part of Cinder's team for the tournament, I'm hoping for a rematch).
Actually, from what we know Neo is not on the team in the tournament. They have only shown 3 team members, but only 2 advance to the second round and we know that it will be Emerald and Mercury. Uh.. you might want to double-check the 4th member's eyes right before she stomps her opponent. (It's Neo).
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Not enough time for a full response, but check the World of Remnant Videos for dust being naturally occurring and the Council does have authority over the Hunter Academy as seen in the end of Season 2 with Ozpin's conversation with them.
Anzyr wrote: Caineach wrote: Greylurker wrote: Mooks and Grims are generally stuck in a variant of the Inverse Ninja Law. The more there are the easier they go down.
It's the one on one fights that should have the most risk and pairing our main characters off with specific antagonists is a good way to go about it. Ruby vs. Cinder is obvious of course in a Leader vs. Leader way as well as their contrasting ideologies.
One of the most tense fights I've seen in RWBY was Yang vs. Neo.
Simply put Neo is a really bad match up for Yang.
Yang is probably unstopable against a Hard Style fighter. That Kinetic absorption means the longer the fight goes the worse it'll get for her opponent.
As soon as I saw Neo was a Soft style fighter it just kind of hit "Yang is screwed" and sure enough Yang got beaten, without the intervention of her mother she probably would have been killed.
That's the kind of threats I'm hoping to see more of (and seeing how Neo is part of Cinder's team for the tournament, I'm hoping for a rematch).
Actually, from what we know Neo is not on the team in the tournament. They have only shown 3 team members, but only 2 advance to the second round and we know that it will be Emerald and Mercury. Uh.. you might want to double-check the 4th member's eyes right before she stomps her opponent. (It's Neo).
Not enough time for a full response, but check the World of Remnant Videos for dust being naturally occurring and the Council does have authority over the Hunter Academy as seen in the end of Season 2 with Ozpin's conversation with them. I will go do that
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Caineach wrote: Greylurker wrote: Mooks and Grims are generally stuck in a variant of the Inverse Ninja Law. The more there are the easier they go down.
It's the one on one fights that should have the most risk and pairing our main characters off with specific antagonists is a good way to go about it. Ruby vs. Cinder is obvious of course in a Leader vs. Leader way as well as their contrasting ideologies.
One of the most tense fights I've seen in RWBY was Yang vs. Neo.
Simply put Neo is a really bad match up for Yang.
Yang is probably unstopable against a Hard Style fighter. That Kinetic absorption means the longer the fight goes the worse it'll get for her opponent.
As soon as I saw Neo was a Soft style fighter it just kind of hit "Yang is screwed" and sure enough Yang got beaten, without the intervention of her mother she probably would have been killed.
That's the kind of threats I'm hoping to see more of (and seeing how Neo is part of Cinder's team for the tournament, I'm hoping for a rematch).
Actually, from what we know Neo is not on the team in the tournament. They have only shown 3 team members, but only 2 advance to the second round and we know that it will be Emerald and Mercury. Totally new outfit and hair but those eyes just before she stomped that guy are hard to miss.
They used the trailer as a bit of a trick by keeping the eye change out of it. When the scene happenes in the show people think they had seen all there was to see already because of the trailer so plenty of folks didn't notice the Eye change until it was pointed out to them.
Greylurker wrote: Caineach wrote: Greylurker wrote: Mooks and Grims are generally stuck in a variant of the Inverse Ninja Law. The more there are the easier they go down.
It's the one on one fights that should have the most risk and pairing our main characters off with specific antagonists is a good way to go about it. Ruby vs. Cinder is obvious of course in a Leader vs. Leader way as well as their contrasting ideologies.
One of the most tense fights I've seen in RWBY was Yang vs. Neo.
Simply put Neo is a really bad match up for Yang.
Yang is probably unstopable against a Hard Style fighter. That Kinetic absorption means the longer the fight goes the worse it'll get for her opponent.
As soon as I saw Neo was a Soft style fighter it just kind of hit "Yang is screwed" and sure enough Yang got beaten, without the intervention of her mother she probably would have been killed.
That's the kind of threats I'm hoping to see more of (and seeing how Neo is part of Cinder's team for the tournament, I'm hoping for a rematch).
Actually, from what we know Neo is not on the team in the tournament. They have only shown 3 team members, but only 2 advance to the second round and we know that it will be Emerald and Mercury. Totally new outfit and hair but those eyes just before she stomped that guy are hard to miss.
They used the trailer as a bit of a trick by keeping the eye change out of it. When the scene happenes in the show people think they had seen all there was to see already because of the trailer so plenty of folks didn't notice the Eye change until it was pointed out to them. I noticed something was off but didn't catch what. The fact the until I rewatched the show 2 weeks ago I completely forgot about Neo's existence may help explain why I didn't notice what was up. I think she is a completely forgettable character.
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Caineach wrote: Well, in the case of Juane, it is heavily implied that the reason he can't figure out what his semblance is is because it is some form of protection aura, which would make sense as to why he has very strong regeneration but can't actually figure out how to use his powers. Aegis is hard to practice. Not to mention many semblance are unlikely to be combat relevant. As for the grunts, well, they can take hits and are still alive getting hit by the superpowered people in team RWBY. That to me says they have more than normal human defenses, they they just get blown through by trained Olympian level fighters. You're talking about Jaune's semblance, which is distinct from (though not necessarily unrelated to) his aura. I don't agree that it's implied that his aura is "protective" or anything to that effect. While his is stated as being quite strong, that doesn't necessarily indicate any particular proficiency with how it's applied, nor is there anything to suggest that his healing that small cut instantaneously is indicative of it having some particular proficiency that isn't available to anyone else with an unlocked aura.
Likewise, the idea that the mooks can take hits from the main cast members and not die from them does not, to my mind, necessarily imply that they're using their aura to survive blows that should otherwise kill them. I say that because that would imply that the various Hunters and Huntresses are launching lethal attacks against individuals that they don't know would survive it, which flies in the face of what we've seen with regards to their characters. Moreover, that represents a presumption with nothing in particular to back it up; when trying to interpret something, I find it to be most useful to stick to Occam's Razor, and make the fewest assumptions possible - since assumptions are based around positive assertions (e.g. saying how/what something likely (or even necessarily) is, rather than how/what something is not), I don't agree with the idea that "they all have their aura's defenses up" because of the assumption that if they didn't they'd have been literally slaughtered.
That also doesn't speak to the idea that it's rather odd that every single mook has developed defensive capabilities, but none of the other signature aura powers, such as healing, enhanced strength, superhuman jumps, etc.
Quote: And no, Crime isn't necessarily a significant threat to Vale society, and in fact is shown to be a relatively minor thing since Torchwick's organization is shown to be a drastic increase in normal crime levels, and he has only been operating for a short time. You're demonstrably wrong on this, since we're flat-out shown that criminal elements are a pre-existing part of Vale before the series proper even begins. Hence the events in Yang's trailer, where she busts up a bar that has a number of thugs in it (not to mention Blake's trailer, where she and Adam are engaged in criminal terrorist behavior).
Quote: A recent crime spree that doesn't affect most people (only dust shops were targeted) wont trigger people to go out en mass to get armed. That crime spree does affect most people; you seem to be suggesting that just because the crime isn't violent crime that it won't have any effect on the mindset of a community, which isn't true. For that matter, it's not a given that the crimes related to the dust thefts aren't violent in nature, since we saw them threaten to rough up the store proprietor (threats of violence from armed perpetrators is violent crime, even if no actual violence occurred) and those other stores quite likely had employees of their own.
That's also leaving aside that the domestic terrorist organization has been flat-out said to have been there for the last five years.
Quote: Similarly, the Grimm breach of the city defenses was a freak ocurance that in the eyes of the public was quickly handled by response teams. Sure, lots of people will now be going out to arm themselves, but prior to that breach they had little reason to think that something like that would happen, or that the government couldn't handle it, and in this case the government was able to handle it. You're making this assertion up whole-cloth, since (to the best of my knowledge) there's nothing that talks about how rare or not rare such breaches are. As noted, it's fairly self-evident that the threat from the Grimm remains large in the public eye, since a nearby city - one that was clearly connected to Vale, as evidenced by the remaining subway line - was destroyed by them. Likewise, that's presumably a large part of why the military is showing off its new line of combat machines.
All of that doesn't even speak with regard to the fact that the Grimm have been the historical predators that prey on mankind, a legacy that is not easily forgotten. For that matter, the show has done a bad job of portraying how Vale deals with flying Grimm or aquatic Grimm that could conceivably threaten the city on a regular basis. Given that the ports don't seem to have any defenses up, and we don't see the issue of airborne Hunters, this would presumably remain a problem handled by the military, which would necessarily require a large degree of interaction with the civilian population (since Vale is essentially a single city surrounded by water on one side and a dense forest on the other), which would ensure that the threat remains very much at the forefront of the public consciousness. That's also leaving aside that a higher degree of military interaction is likely to increase the degree to which the population would be familiar with, and likely comfortable with and desirous of, personal weaponry.
That the show doesn't display the the population of Vale in such a manner is something that doesn't make a great deal of sense by the show's own portrayal, as I see it.
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Anzyr wrote: @Alzrius
Not enough time for a full response, but check the World of Remnant Videos for dust being naturally occurring and the Council does have authority over the Hunter Academy as seen in the end of Season 2 with Ozpin's conversation with them.
You need to go re-read my previous post. I did say that dust was naturally occurring, in the sense that it was not artificially produced. Rather, I don't think that - as it's found in nature - it can be easily harvested, nor in any great quantity. If that were the case, then not only would the Schnee Dust Company not be a very important faction in the region (since there'd be very little to stop competitors from getting into the business, since dust was so easy to acquire in the wild), but there'd be no real impetus for the criminals and the White Fang to steal it, either.
Likewise, I'll reiterate what I said before: it doesn't matter that there's a Council, insofar as regulating auras goes - they're powerless to enforce a prohibition on unlocking people's auras.
Pretty much everything you've said is true or at least reasonable. I just don't care.
I don't think the series is written with any intent to support that level of world building analysis. The powers are cool and let our heroes (and villains!) bounce around the screen and blow stuff up spectacularly. The school's an excuse to get them together and wind up having them deal with with real threats.
Everything else fades into the background. It's a fun show, it's not a deep fully realized world. If that spoils it for you, that's a shame, but maybe it's just not for you.
I'm generally a big fan of in depth world building, but it's not necessary everywhere.
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thejeff wrote: Pretty much everything you've said is true or at least reasonable. Thanks, I think so too.
Quote: I just don't care. Well, since I wasn't asking you to, that means that I don't care that you don't care. So tag, you're it! ;)
Quote: I don't think the series is written with any intent to support that level of world building analysis. I thought that was self-evident by this point.
Quote: The powers are cool and let our heroes (and villains!) bounce around the screen and blow stuff up spectacularly. The school's an excuse to get them together and wind up having them deal with with real threats.
Everything else fades into the background. It's a fun show, it's not a deep fully realized world.
Again, I don't disagree with that notion. I just can't help but consider things like this.
Quote: If that spoils it for you, that's a shame, but maybe it's just not for you. The issues with the world-building don't ruin the show for me; it's the issue with the dramatic tension that is the bigger hit to my appreciation for the show. As I said back in my initial post on the subject, I still enjoy RWBY. I just enjoy it in spite of its flaws.
Quote: I'm generally a big fan of in depth world building, but it's not necessary everywhere. Again, I didn't suggest otherwise. I consider the issue of how the fights are portrayed to be a bigger pet peeve than any of the in-character issues I've raised here.
Al, I think you may be overthinking things a bit.
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Freehold DM wrote: Al, I think you may be overthinking things a bit. Well...yeah. That's the fun part.
TriOmegaZero wrote: Read the Crunchyroll comments and now I'm rekt. I avoid the comment section so I don't have to worry about that happening. Too many people want to argue and post spoilers over there.
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They pointed me to something I missed at timestamp 2:31 in the first episode of the new season.
Alzrius wrote: Quote:
And no, Crime isn't necessarily a significant threat to Vale society, and in fact is shown to be a relatively minor thing since Torchwick's organization is shown to be a drastic increase in normal crime levels, and he has only been operating for a short time.
You're demonstrably wrong on this, since we're flat-out shown that criminal elements are a pre-existing part of Vale before the series proper even begins. Hence the events in Yang's trailer, where she busts up a bar that has a number of thugs in it (not to mention Blake's trailer, where she and Adam are engaged in criminal terrorist behavior).
No I'm not. Just because there is organized crime doesn't mean it is relevant to the normal person.There are plenty of organized gangs, bars most people avoid, and other dangerous areas in every city in the country. That doesn't mean everyone panics and goes out and buys a gun. They are a part of everyday life people conveniently ignore. IRL A notable increase in crime may make people worried, but relatively few will go out and buy a gun because of it.
Not to mention that both of those are recent. Both of those are implied to have happened within a year of the series start. Blake talks about how the changes in the white fang are recent with their new leader. Presumably this wasn't the first shipment hijacked because it was probably increased security, but just because shipping trains are being robbed doesn't mean that people will change how they live their lives in the city.
Alzrius wrote: You're making this assertion up whole-cloth, since (to the best of my knowledge) there's nothing that talks about how rare or not rare such breaches are. As noted, it's fairly self-evident that the threat from the Grimm remains large in the public eye, since a nearby city - one that was clearly connected to Vale, as evidenced by the remaining subway line - was destroyed by them. Likewise, that's presumably a large part of why the military is showing off its new line of combat machines.
All of that doesn't even speak with regard to the fact that the Grimm have been the historical predators that prey on mankind, a legacy that is not easily forgotten. For that matter, the show has done a bad job of portraying how Vale deals with flying Grimm or aquatic Grimm that could conceivably threaten the city on a regular basis. Given that the ports don't seem to have any defenses up, and we don't see the issue of airborne Hunters, this would presumably remain a problem handled by the military, which would necessarily require a large degree of interaction with the civilian population (since Vale is essentially a single city surrounded by water on one side and a dense forest on the other), which would ensure that the threat remains very much at the forefront of the public consciousness. That's also leaving aside that a higher degree of military interaction is likely to increase the degree to which the population would be familiar with, and likely comfortable with and desirous of, personal weaponry.
That the show doesn't display the the population of Vale in such a manner is something that doesn't make a great deal of sense by the show's own portrayal, as I see it.
You mean like the giant flying armada whose sole purpose is to patrol the outskirts of the city to make sure Grimm don't come close? Or the fact that they explicitly talk about how larger grim avoid the city because they have been around long enough to know it is a bad idea to attack humans.
The destroyed city was explained as a failed expansion that wasn't given proper support. That doesn't mean the existing city doesn't have defenses that have been working for generations.
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Caineach wrote: No I'm not. Just because there is organized crime doesn't mean it is relevant to the normal person.There are plenty of organized gangs, bars most people avoid, and other dangerous areas in every city in the country. That doesn't mean everyone panics and goes out and buys a gun. They are a part of everyday life people conveniently ignore. IRL A notable increase in crime may make people worried, but relatively few will go out and buy a gun because of it. Yes, you are. Leaving aside the comparisons to real life (which I don't believe are applicable here), the fact remains that Vale is a single city that's sandwiched between a dangerous wilderness and the ocean, and has to contend with monsters, criminals, and terrorists. We know that the monsters are an age-old problem for humanity, we know that the military is highly active and a major player in society (including ties to the major Hunter academies and big businesses such as the Schnee Dust Company). We know that there have been at least one recent war with the faunus, which humanity lost, and which is still presenting fallout in the way of terrorism. Finally, we know that powerful weapons are carried by a not-inconsiderable portion of the population, e.g. kids in combat schools and Hunter academies, the former of which require the kids to build those weapons themselves. We also know that organized crime is a reality in Vale, even leaving aside questions of how far it's spread or how old it is.
Simply put, these things collectively paint a picture of a society that perceives - apparently correctly - a great deal of danger, likely to the point of being an existential threat. You don't have multiple, dedicated combat schools and specialized monster-hunting academies otherwise.
Given that, I find it fairly difficult to consider plausible the idea that, since these weapons and the knowledge of how to make them (and the substance that powers them) are all readily apparent, that the majority of the populace would fail to possess them.
Quote: Not to mention that both of those are recent. Both of those are implied to have happened within a year of the series start. Blake talks about how the changes in the white fang are recent with their new leader. Presumably this wasn't the first shipment hijacked because it was probably increased security, but just because shipping trains are being robbed doesn't mean that people will change how they live their lives in the city. You're looking at a single snapshot and drawing conclusions that are, I believe, erroneous. It's highly arguable to call five years of domestic terrorism "recent." Not to mention that that came about after the humans lost a war with the faunus. Likewise, even if Roman Torchwick is a new player in the organized crime scene, there's nothing to indicate that gang violence and crime are themselves new developments. We further know the Grimm have been a problem since the beginning for people.
As I mentioned, these things form a composite that, when taken in total, highlight that the humans in Vale (and likely the entire world) live in a very dangerous environment. Moreover, they live in a world that blatantly appears dangerous, which makes it odd to consider that when such incredible weapons are so readily available that no one is using them (especially since dust, their power source and itself an explosive, is also so easy to acquire).
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Caineach wrote: You mean like the giant flying armada whose sole purpose is to patrol the outskirts of the city to make sure Grimm don't come close? You're proving my point, here. If there was no particular reason for the public to worry, then there wouldn't be such a major military presence, something which would require a large degree of integration into Vale as a city (since the map of the city that we're shown demonstrates that it's effectively an island unto itself, sandwiched between the sea and the wilderness).
The idea that there need to be Hunters and the military just to keep the city adequately defended from the Grimm doesn't make the threat appear smaller; it makes it appear larger. Now throw in organized crime, terrorism, and a war that the humans lost, and the idea that most of the people consider themselves to live in a peaceful and safe environment is one that becomes very difficult to plausibly consider.
Quote: Or the fact that they explicitly talk about how larger grim avoid the city because they have been around long enough to know it is a bad idea to attack humans. You're misunderstanding what Professor Oobleck said, there. He mentioned that some of the older (if I recall correctly it was older, rather than larger) Grimm are waiting for a better chance to attack humanity. That doesn't mean that the threat isn't major; quite the contrary, outlining that there's a major force that's still preparing for the right time to strike suggests just the opposite.
But this is less important than the fact that you're trying to undercut individual points while ignoring the larger picture that they collectively paint. A human society that is faced with myriad threats is going to have a hard time explaining why the populace isn't taking advantage of having a large segment that knows how to create powerful weapons. Saying that "well this particular threat isn't quite that bad" is missing the point, and fails to undercut the larger premise.
Quote: The destroyed city was explained as a failed expansion that wasn't given proper support. That doesn't mean the existing city doesn't have defenses that have been working for generations. Given that there's no particular explanation (that I recall) for what constituted "proper support," that could very well be what it means. Likewise, I'm not sure I believe your assertions that most of the bad things that have happened are all very recent developments, and that the populace has been living largely threat-free for that. An entire city expansion - which is shown to be quite large - being destroyed and overrun is a powerful example that goes to show that the threat is very real and very immediate. Trying to posit "but the facts show that this was an outlier" is to ignore the larger point; when there's a major threat right outside your doorstep, what's your impetus not to have a weapon?
It would be fairly simple to postulate, that even if everyone has Aura, which could be unlocked, there's a range of power level and most people wouldn't see the kind of benefits our heroes get. Jaune's was just unlocked, but was also described as very powerful. The others have had years of training to get as far as they have - and can be assumed to be the best of the best for their age, given they were admitted to the Hunter school.
It may just not be worth it for the average Joe to unlock his lesser aura, especially if he's not going to commit to the intense training it would take to get even minimal benefits out of it.
As for the weapons, I'd hate to try to use most of them without the Aura training. Doesn't the recoil from Ruby's gun blast her all over the landscape?
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thejeff wrote: It would be fairly simple to postulate, that even if everyone has Aura, which could be unlocked, there's a range of power level and most people wouldn't see the kind of benefits our heroes get. Jaune's was just unlocked, but was also described as very powerful. The others have had years of training to get as far as they have - and can be assumed to be the best of the best for their age, given they were admitted to the Hunter school. I'm not sure I necessarily agree with that postulation, not so much in terms of ranges of power, but in terms of how whether the benefit most people get would be worthwhile (or noticeable). Based on what we've seen in the series, the background characters who stand to gain the most from having an unlocked aura - violent criminals - are also the ones who are showcased to have the least to suggest that done so, since we see no indication that they have any special abilities. Leaving aside special cases such as Adam or Roman, we never witness any of the mooks showcasing any degree of incredible movement, attacking, defending, or healing that is presumably part-and-parcel of having a developed aura. Maybe they wouldn't have special powers on par with the heroes, but it's fairly obvious that these guys have nothing that sets them apart from ordinary people, despite the ease of having an unlocked aura and the obvious motive to at least somewhat develop it.
Quote: It may just not be worth it for the average Joe to unlock his lesser aura, especially if he's not going to commit to the intense training it would take to get even minimal benefits out of it. This operates under the presumption that it requires "intense (physical) training" to utilize one's aura to a noticeable degree. So far, most of what we've seen contradicts that; auras are easily unlocked, and can heal at least minor wounds almost immediately once they are. You might say that the latter is because Jaune's is more powerful than most, but that's also a supposition that doesn't have much in the way of supporting evidence.
Likewise, people who engage in violence for a living - such as the faceless criminals that we see getting thrashed by Team RWBY and co. on a regular basis - have more impetus than your average person to develop their aura. And yet there's nothing to suggest that they have.
Quote: As for the weapons, I'd hate to try to use most of them without the Aura training. Doesn't the recoil from Ruby's gun blast her all over the landscape? They don't all have such powerful recoil, e.g. Weiss's sword, if I recall correctly. Certainly Pyrrha's sword/spear/rifle doesn't seem to. Heck, even Jaune has a transforming shield/sheath before his aura is ever unlocked. So why are the rank-and-file bad guys stuck with non-transforming, dinky little weapons?
...Because it would be much harder to animate them?
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Rednal wrote: ...Because it would be much harder to animate them? Well if you want to get all meta-contextual about it. :P
(But all kidding aside, debating about an in-character aspect of the setting usually presumes that the setting functions according to its own set of internal logic and consistency that are the foundation for why things are the way they are, and restricts itself to dissecting and discussing that. Any aspect of any work of fiction can be explained away by "because that's the way the creators wrote/drew/animated/etc. it.")
Considering we have vastly different ideas of how normal people would react to the world, I don't see us seeing eye to eye on the worldbuilding at all.
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Caineach wrote: Considering we have vastly different ideas of how normal people would react to the world, I don't see us seeing eye to eye on the worldbuilding at all. I agree to disagree.
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For those of you with Netflix streaming only- it recently added Durarara!! and the 1st half of Durarara X2!!. It's got quite a bit of everything in it but I enjoy it quite a bit.
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John Benbo wrote: For those of you with Netflix streaming only- it recently added Durarara!! and the 1st half of Durarara X2!!. It's got quite a bit of everything in it but I enjoy it quite a bit. Be sure and check out the first entry in the author's world, Baccano!.
Baccaro and durarara are the same world?
Freehold DM wrote: Baccaro and durarara are the same world? Yup! you can see Isaac and Miria at the first Dollars "rally".
Freehold DM wrote: Baccaro and durarara are the same world? It's my understanding that almost everything Ryōgo Narita has written (Baccano!, Durarara!, Vamp!, and Etsusa Bridge) are in the same world.
John Benbo wrote: For those of you with Netflix streaming only- it recently added Durarara!! and the 1st half of Durarara X2!!. It's got quite a bit of everything in it but I enjoy it quite a bit. I lied slightly- Netflix has the 1st cour of Durarara x2!!. Cour 2 just finished and I didn't realize there is a third cour airing next year.
For some reason, the van of some minor characters has the characters from The Irregular at Magic High School painted on the side. Not sure w hat the connection is. There's also a cardboard cut-out in the beginning that looks suspiciously like Holo (I think there's also some other in jokes by the same two otaku characters).
At a guess, the same studio animated them. XD They've been known to put in small shout-outs like that.
It's actually more helpful than you might think. A lot of the time, to fit in with what the viewers expect a place to look like, you'll need some kind of artistic decoration... and using decorations that they have licenses for (and the right to use that way) is generally safer and less time-consuming than coming up with original characters that might accidentally infringe on someone's copyright. XD
Both light novel series are published by the same company.
Krensky wrote: Both light novel series are published by the same company. Ah ha! It was kind of funny to see.
Anzyr wrote: Freehold DM wrote: Baccaro and durarara are the same world? Yup! you can see Isaac and Miria at the first Dollars "rally". This. Caught me by surprise when I first noticed it. They have different voice actors in Durarara!! though.
Eh, I personally wouldn't recommend Durarara! 2 unless you're a diehard fan of Baccano! and Durarara! . :/
The biggest issue of the shows is that the characters, with a few exceptions, are very one dimensional: they have one shtick, and they do that all the time. Baccano!, aside from having slightly more nuanced characters, got around that by using mad director skillz and taking a kinda simple plot and making it cool trough the intersecting point of views and time skips. Plus, the animations were good, so it was cool to see even if nothing particular was going on.
Durara! did away with that, unfortunately, but still managed to be entertaining trough some point of view shifts and an overall good animation: there's also more action in Durara! than there is in Baccano!, so just watching the show to see vending machines flying left and right and headless waifus on motorcycles riding on building's walls is a reason in and of itself to watch the show.
However, with the second season, there isn't much of this stuff. :/
The novelty of much of the cast's shenaningans has wore off, and most of the new characters doesn't entertain me very much. Add to that that the first 12 episodes looked like one big, huge filler episode that could have been resolved in way less time (the whole rival gang thing took the whole season! And it's not like they don't have material: there's something like ten novels of stuff.), and that, most of all, the QUALITY has increased to ridiculous levels: episode 3/4 (the one with Vorona's flashback, can't remember the number) was way past embarrassing and short of dropping the series altogether, and the rest isn't that much better. You can excuse that for series that don't make action their selling point, but that isn't the case with Durarara! 2.
So, in short: if you think Durarara! is the best thing ever, watch the second season. If not, you can safely skip it. :/
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Seven Deadly Sins now on Netflix in multiple languages
Looks like a good Shonen adventure.
A Princess in need vs. a corrupt order of Holy Knights usurping the kingdom.
Who else can she turn to but the Seven most wanted and deadly criminals in the history of the Kingdom
Rented Mobile Suit Gundam Origins II this weekend. It was pretty good but I liked 1 better. This one focused on Artesia/Sayla primarily, so less action- felt more like a filler episode between 1 and and 3 (which I'm guessing based on the the timeline, will definitely have more action). Lots of little cameos in this 2, though. I also hope we get a lower priced State side DVD or Bluray instead of the $100 "collectible" one.
John Benbo wrote: Rented Mobile Suit Gundam Origins II this weekend. It was pretty good but I liked 1 better. This one focused on Artesia/Sayla primarily, so less action- felt more like a filler episode between 1 and and 3 (which I'm guessing based on the the timeline, will definitely have more action). Lots of little cameos in this 2, though. I also hope we get a lower priced State side DVD or Bluray instead of the $100 "collectible" one. Pricing on some anime is insane - I want to watch Neon Genesis Evangelion sometime, but it isn't available to stream on the services I have, only seems to exist in abridged form on Youtube, and is hard to find for less than a few hundred dollars to purchase anywhere I have checked.
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Come over to my place sometime, I'm always up for a Eva-binge. :P
kicks down toz' front door for a zeta gundam marathon
Tomato tomahto.
John Benbo wrote: Rented Mobile Suit Gundam Origins II this weekend. It was pretty good but I liked 1 better. This one focused on Artesia/Sayla primarily, so less action- felt more like a filler episode between 1 and and 3 (which I'm guessing based on the the timeline, will definitely have more action). Lots of little cameos in this 2, though. I also hope we get a lower priced State side DVD or Bluray instead of the $100 "collectible" one. it's true gundam.
You are going to pay through the nose.
Freehold DM wrote: John Benbo wrote: Rented Mobile Suit Gundam Origins II this weekend. It was pretty good but I liked 1 better. This one focused on Artesia/Sayla primarily, so less action- felt more like a filler episode between 1 and and 3 (which I'm guessing based on the the timeline, will definitely have more action). Lots of little cameos in this 2, though. I also hope we get a lower priced State side DVD or Bluray instead of the $100 "collectible" one. it's true gundam.
You are going to pay through the nose. Yeah, still haven't seen Char's Counterattack cuz the prices are crazy and Netflix is spotty with the Gundam they have in stock (and half the time the discs I get are old and cracked). I did get a good price on the Zeta movies but looks like the price has gone up on Amazon. UC isn't so bad with the DVDs but the blurays swing from expensive to crazy expensive.
Grey Lensman wrote: John Benbo wrote: Rented Mobile Suit Gundam Origins II this weekend. It was pretty good but I liked 1 better. This one focused on Artesia/Sayla primarily, so less action- felt more like a filler episode between 1 and and 3 (which I'm guessing based on the the timeline, will definitely have more action). Lots of little cameos in this 2, though. I also hope we get a lower priced State side DVD or Bluray instead of the $100 "collectible" one. Pricing on some anime is insane - I want to watch Neon Genesis Evangelion sometime, but it isn't available to stream on the services I have, only seems to exist in abridged form on Youtube, and is hard to find for less than a few hundred dollars to purchase anywhere I have checked. It's high, but I wouldn't consider a lot of it insane since it's out of print.
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I was lucky to get a copy of the Umineko blu-ray sets for just over $100.
Freehold DM wrote: kicks down toz' front door for a zeta gundam marathon
Tomato tomahto.
Yeah, my Gundam-fu is lacking.
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Be grateful you're not a Macross fan.
$70 for one Blu-ray with three eppisodes and you need to speak Japanese.
Harmony Gold is pure evil.
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Krensky wrote: Be grateful you're not a Macross fan.
$70 for one Blu-ray with three eppisodes and you need to speak Japanese.
Harmony Gold is pure evil.
they remain most hateable.
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Some friends of ours got my kids a VHS copy of _Catnapped!_ a while ago, and for some reason that's nigh to impossible to find in disc format for less than $75. They liked it, but not that much.
Just started Knights of Sidonia. I'm enjoying it so far I just have a feeling it's going to end up being a rocks fall everyone dies kinda series. Judging by the current death rate I'm probably right.
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havoc xiii wrote: Just started Knights of Sidonia. I'm enjoying it so far I just have a feeling it's going to end up being a rocks fall everyone dies kinda series. Judging by the current death rate I'm probably right. It's a tad more complicated than that. Keep watching... it's worth the trip. I believe Netflix still has both series on tap.
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