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Freehold DM wrote:
Tequila Sunrise wrote:

Has anyone seen a cgi movie called Harlock: Space Pirate?

Yes, it's every bit as ridiculous as it sounds, and I'm still not quite sure what I think about it after watching it twice. It's a lot like some fan of Final Fantasy and Pirates of the Caribbean was given free reign and a huge cgi budget. The phrase 'so bad that it's good' comes to mind, and there's something about it that's planted itself in my head...

Indeed, it is a remake/update of the original series. Watch it with the fact that it was made in the 70s in mind.

I would not say it was "so bad it was good", I would say it was faithful to the original. I'm glad they didn't try to "update" it with ideas that make sense to modern sensibilities and continued with the rather outrageous 70's ideas.

Greylurker wrote:


if you want to watch the original they have it over at Crunchyroll

Oh wow, that's old school!

Maybe the original will explain the Mimay...


Aranna wrote:
So will you share who you identify with?

Hm, that's a good question, and I can't think of a clear answer. I don't think there's ever been an anime character who I felt a strong connection with; I guess I watch anime more for the fantastical physics and strange settings than the characters.


Blayde MacRonan wrote:

Given that Toonami has shown all of Deadman Wonderland, Black Lagoon, and Hellsing Ultimate pretty much intact, I'm not too concerned about what they'll do to Kill la Kill. The main concern has been language (no f-bombs allowed, obviously). And the violence hasn't been altered with respect to those shows, so I doubt it'll happen with Kill la Kill.

And in answer to Aranna's question... I identify most with the Black Knight Ashram, from Record of Lodoss. Though he was introduced as a villain in the OVAs, I always felt there was more to him than was shown. Both Chronicles of the Heroic Knight and Legend of Crystania bore this out to be true. He was an anti-villain, the first that really made an impression on me. I suppose it could be argued that Char Aznable made just as much of an impression on me at a much younger age, but that realization didn't come until much later (thanks, Freehold).

Yep... definitely Ashram.

char is very, VERY different in the gundam novelization (THAT I CHICKENED OUT AND DIDNT GET AUTOGRAPHED BY TOMINO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!),so I would strongly recommend reading it.


Anybody watching Death Parade
Its a rather interesting show about the people playing games in a bar and ... well if you want more info check here.
It also has one of the more fun openings. I've seen.


Tels wrote:
On RWBY and Nora...

I realize that I'm late to the RWBY party, but I just have to comment on how much I love it!

It's rare that such a cutesy show grabs my attention, but RWBY has managed to be just the right mix of gonzo action, character development, fantastical physics, steady plot, allegories to messy real-life issues, music, and yes, gunblades!

There are of course the obligatory too-skimpy-for-school skirts and blouses, but there's also a bit of beefcake and a girl-on-boy ass-slap.

Apparently the creator died this very month though, which is a huge shame. :(

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There is nothing really unique about RWBY, but it does the things we know so well and with such zest that you can't help but enjoy it.


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I always felt that Dead Fantasy was Monty's best work, myself.

Insofar as RWBY goes...I like it, but I always felt like I enjoyed the series in spite of itself, rather than because of it. There are a lot of details about the show that seem to get in the way of my enjoying it.


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Crunchyroll has got themselves a Random button now. Hit the little dice icon at the top of the page and it'll give you a random title from their catalog. It's a nice way to try something you might not otherwise find.

For example I got Heroman yesterday. It's a Boy and his giant robot action series, created with Stan Lee of all things. (and like always Stan appears in the show)


If you haven't seen it yet try and track down an anime short called Wasurenagumo. I only just saw it recently but I think it's from the 2011 Anime Mirai film festival.

Really adorable little film

Spoiler:
and then the ending happens

but still really adorable

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Tokyo Ghoul has been very confusing this second season. I feel like I'm missing out on internal monologues that explain why the characters are doing what they do, not getting the background stories about why characters know each other, and the fights have been long, drawn-out, and uninspired. :/


TriOmegaZero wrote:
There is nothing really unique about RWBY, but it does the things we know so well and with such zest that you can't help but enjoy it.

Honestly, I think this is true of the plot, but I feel like the fight scenes are better than all but a few series I have seen.

Silver Crusade

So I go to Anime1 to check up on today's postings and discovered they had uploaded onto their site seventy episodes of Urusei Yatsura. I never got to experience Lum (one of the few series I actually missed out on back in the day), so I'm preparing to settle in and watch me some old-school Rumiko Takahashi. Hopefully, I'll enjoy it more than I did Ranma 1/2.


URUSEI YATSURA 4 LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!

Also, you did not enjoy Ranma?


she has a new one coming in a season or two as well.

Rin-ne: About a girl who can see ghosts and a Shinagami in debt

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Freehold DM wrote:

URUSEI YATSURA 4 LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!

Also, you did not enjoy Ranma?

Ranma Saotome annoyed me to no end... and Akane Tendo wasn't much better. Their constant back and forth bickering killed any real interest I might have had in it.

But my wife, who is not into anime like I am, loves the show.

Silver Crusade

But... I am looking forward to this...


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I just finished episode 8 of Gurren Lagann. Currently, as a consequence, I hate everything.

EDIT: I... don't actually hate everything. I'm still mad, though!

Silver Crusade

Well... after watching 10 episodes, I've come to the conclusion that I really like Lum. That Ataru has not only the worst luck I've seen outside of GXP, but the worst friends ever. Even Keiichi from Ahh, My Goddess! has better friends than Ataru.

Will have to get the wife to sit with me to watch this, though I may have to find an English dub for her.

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Tacticslion wrote:

I just finished episode 8 of Gurren Lagann. Currently, as a consequence, I hate everything.

EDIT: I... don't actually hate everything. I'm still mad, though!

Hang in there, 'lion.


Blayde MacRonan wrote:
Well... after watching 10 episodes, I've come to the conclusion that I really like Lum. That Ataru has not only the worst luck I've seen outside of GXP, but the worst friends ever. Even Keiichi from Ahh, My Goddess! has better friends than Ataru.

Ah, the memories...

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Will have to get the wife to sit with me to watch this, though I may have to find an English dub for her.

That must be love...


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Tacticslion wrote:

I just finished episode 8 of Gurren Lagann. Currently, as a consequence, I hate everything.

EDIT: I... don't actually hate everything. I'm still mad, though!

I FINISHED EPISODE 15. THE ANIME IS DONE. WHY IS THE ANIME NOT DONE, YET. I SWEAR, GURREN LAGANN, IF YOU PULL THAT ON ME AGAIN...

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Tacticslion wrote:
Tacticslion wrote:

I just finished episode 8 of Gurren Lagann. Currently, as a consequence, I hate everything.

EDIT: I... don't actually hate everything. I'm still mad, though!

I FINISHED EPISODE 15. THE ANIME IS DONE. WHY IS THE ANIME NOT DONE, YET. I SWEAR, GURREN LAGANN, IF YOU PULL THAT ON ME AGAIN...

But...there's just so much more to see...


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/O.O\


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*chuckle* because they wanted to be sure every single cast member gets a moment in the sun before it ends.
And once you finish the 27th episode you have two movies, two manga, a light novel and a video game to finish if your completionist urges happen to show up.


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>:(


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I think you broke him...


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Nah, I know that that looks like, I've seen it before.


I don't know what it is. But I could never get into Gurren Lagann. I tried, I just...can't. I think it falls into my unpleasant divide with respect to anime generations.

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That's okay, I'm not into Gundam that much either.


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TriOmegaZero wrote:
That's okay, I'm not into Gundam that much either.

I've never been a fan of any "giant robot" anime - those few that I've watched, I've done so because there's a case to be made that the robots are secondary to what the series is actually about. (e.g. I watched Macross Frontier for the singing.)


Soooo.....my wife just had me watch Grave of the Fireflies for the first time ....... Hmmm ..... yep I have sunk to the lowest depressiony depression that ever depressed [Expletive Deleted].


Ouch. Yeah. Ouch.


I've never dared watch that one. I'm depressed enough as it is.


Yeah, that is on my list of great films that I will never watch again.

Absolutly brilliant peice of work.
but it'll be days before you can be happy again


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Not a fan of Grave of the Fireflies... Way too depressing and a tad too preachy for me. I can see why it's considered a good movie... But I didn't care much for it.


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havoc xiii wrote:
Soooo.....my wife just had me watch Grave of the Fireflies for the first time ....... Hmmm ..... yep I have sunk to the lowest depressiony depression that ever depressed [Expletive Deleted].

We had to watch that in college, as part of a course on modern Japan and cinema.

I watched it alone, rather than as part of the class viewing, and I'm glad I did. At least then I was able to sob in private - I'm told that when the class came out of the viewing room, some of the library staff were rather shocked to see a bunch of crying students leaving.


I could never watch Grave of the Fireflies.

I read a brief synopsis and nearly sobbed just from that. The movie would likely kill me.


havoc xiii wrote:
Soooo.....my wife just had me watch Grave of the Fireflies for the first time ....... Hmmm ..... yep I have sunk to the lowest depressiony depression that ever depressed [Expletive Deleted].

My roommate in college used to cheer at that movie. He loved watching people suffer for their own stupidity.

At some point I need to finish watching Now and Then, Here and There.


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I'll have to watch My Neighbor Totoro and all shall be right with the world.


That's why they were packaged together!

With Grave, my main problem was that we were supposed to sympathize with the kid who, while I did empathize with his plight, I couldn't sympathize with his decisions - they were wrong and repeatedly so, getting himself and [redacted for spoilers].

Effectively his pride was such that I just couldn't sympathize - empathize, yes, but not sympathize - which, you know, was part of the point. But because of this it just felt preachy instead of powerful.

Don't get me wrong - I teared up, and felt miserable, but the entire thing left me going, "Ugh, you moron, you did this." more than, "I'm so sorry." Again, part of the point, but not my preferred watching experience.

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I have a feeling I would feel much the same way. I made the entire theater crack up when I watched Walk the Line and blurted out "You were a dumbass!" when he asked what he did wrong. I'd probably be raging at the kids through Grave as well.


It's the older one, really. The other was just too young.

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I am more forgiving of kids that don't know any better. But I've also been exposed to hyper competent children in other series. :)


havoc xiii wrote:
Soooo.....my wife just had me watch Grave of the Fireflies for the first time ....... Hmmm ..... yep I have sunk to the lowest depressiony depression that ever depressed [Expletive Deleted].

anime to slit your wrists by!


Caineach wrote:
havoc xiii wrote:
Soooo.....my wife just had me watch Grave of the Fireflies for the first time ....... Hmmm ..... yep I have sunk to the lowest depressiony depression that ever depressed [Expletive Deleted].

My roommate in college used to cheer at that movie. He loved watching people suffer for their own stupidity.

At some point I need to finish watching Now and Then, Here and There.

I can't watch that series again.


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Tacticslion wrote:

That's why they were packaged together!

With Grave, my main problem was that we were supposed to sympathize with the kid who, while I did empathize with his plight, I couldn't sympathize with his decisions - they were wrong and repeatedly so, getting himself and [redacted for spoilers].

Effectively his pride was such that I just couldn't sympathize - empathize, yes, but not sympathize - which, you know, was part of the point. But because of this it just felt preachy instead of powerful.

Don't get me wrong - I teared up, and felt miserable, but the entire thing left me going, "Ugh, you moron, you did this." more than, "I'm so sorry." Again, part of the point, but not my preferred watching experience.

let's not do this, guys. This anime was about a horrible moment in history, noone was thinking straight, and they didn't know much about the situation other than that they were living in it. this is also the same conflict that had civilians commit suicide rather than surrender when starving because they legitimately believed the enemy forces had would either take over their bodies, eat them in turn, or something else even more outlandish/impossible. Don't judge their madness by your sanity, especially removed by years and knowledge of nuclear fallout.


Freehold DM wrote:
let's not do this, guys. This anime was about a horrible moment in history, noone was thinking straight, and they didn't know much about the situation other than that they were living in it. this is also the same conflict that had civilians commit suicide rather than surrender when starving because they legitimately believed the enemy forces had would either take over their bodies, eat them in turn, or something else even more outlandish/impossible. Don't judge their madness by your sanity, especially removed by years and knowledge of nuclear fallout.

Sure, sure... But that doesn't stop the anime from being too depressing and preachy, though.

I can see the good stuff in it and I understand why people like it... But IMHO, it's overrated. It gets more praise than it deserves because it's a Studio Ghibli movie.


Freehold DM wrote:
let's not do this, guys. This anime was about a horrible moment in history, noone was thinking straight, and they didn't know much about the situation other than that they were living in it. this is also the same conflict that had civilians commit suicide rather than surrender when starving because they legitimately believed the enemy forces had would either take over their bodies, eat them in turn, or something else even more outlandish/impossible. Don't judge their madness by your sanity, especially removed by years and knowledge of nuclear fallout.

It wasn't that: it's that he clearly had other choices that he rejected along the way for no real purpose other than his pride. What's more, that was the point of the film. You are meant to learn from his mistakes. That was the entire premise - the kid made bad choices that [redacted for spoilers].

And I mean this - that was the idea the director was trying to get across, "Don't make the decisions this kid did, because they're bad."

I felt terrible for the little one. I hated the aunt. That did not invalidate my response to that kid's decisions. They were bad. The film was meant to make me realize this. It did so, and I would have come to the same conclusion anyway.

It's sad, but I hated watching it because of his pride and inability to admit his mistake.

This isn't me judging him for making his mistake. It's me judging him for persisting in his mistake, even when it was obvious that it was a mistake. (And I don't like movies that do that.)

EDIT 1: add quotes, 'cause NINJA

EDIT 2: Again, it's not making a mistake. It's refusing to learn from it, and persisting. "I can do it myself" is a great attitude, but if you need help, get help from the sources you can instead of constantly rejecting it when it's offered. It was needless suffering for pride. Ugh.


Spoiler :
What sources the aunt who wasn't feeding them had decided the were cree loaders and were a burden? The doctor who gave a cursory glance over the girl and says all ahe needs is nutrition...right nutrition when there is none, maybe from their mothe...oh right he watched her die and be thrown on a mass grave and burned. No one offered help the aunt seemed happy enough to let them leave didn't see her crying asking them to stay, hell when the cousin asked what happened she acted like it was all their fault ignoring the fact she is the one who told them to eat seperatly ignoring the fact that he vrought and shared the plums and everything else.

On another note...watch Dye Fantasy...at your own risk....I don't even...


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Man I found this thread by stalking my crushTacticslion.

Anyone watch Log Horizon? Im a big fan of game world stuff.

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