paizo.com Recent Posts in Mounted: Mount Actions vs. PC actionspaizo.com Recent Posts in Mounted: Mount Actions vs. PC actions2012-05-18T15:44:27Z2012-05-18T15:44:27ZRe: Forums: Rules Questions: Mounted: Mount Actions vs. PC actionsBobsonhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2o4n4?Mounted-Mount-Actions-vs-PC-actions#102012-05-18T14:19:34Z2012-05-18T14:19:34Z<p>Or even just a PC on a companion which is fully combat capable on their own (such as an eidolon)...</p>Or even just a PC on a companion which is fully combat capable on their own (such as an eidolon)...Bobson2012-05-18T14:19:34ZRe: Forums: Rules Questions: Mounted: Mount Actions vs. PC actionsDeadbeat Doomhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2o4n4?Mounted-Mount-Actions-vs-PC-actions#92012-05-18T13:59:55Z2012-05-18T13:59:55Z<p>What's really fun is trying to make the mounted combat rules work when you have one PC riding another PC (ex.: Fighter on Druid-back.)</p>What's really fun is trying to make the mounted combat rules work when you have one PC riding another PC (ex.: Fighter on Druid-back.)Deadbeat Doom2012-05-18T13:59:55ZRe: Forums: Rules Questions: Mounted: Mount Actions vs. PC actionsBltzKrg242https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2o4n4?Mounted-Mount-Actions-vs-PC-actions#82012-05-18T12:42:18Z2012-05-18T12:42:18Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Korpen wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">BltzKrg242 wrote:</div><blockquote><p> Pathfinder isn't 3.5 tho.
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When the mount uses <b>it's</b> move action to move, that leaves you with <b>your</b> move action and can therefore still take a full round action </blockquote><p>However, the rules on mounted combat in the rules section clearly states that if your mount move more then five feet you can only make a single melee attack, so full attacking is out.
<p></blockquote><p>Absolutely. My Bad. I cut off one paragraph too soon :(Korpen wrote:BltzKrg242 wrote:Pathfinder isn't 3.5 tho.
When the mount uses it's move action to move, that leaves you with your move action and can therefore still take a full round action
However, the rules on mounted combat in the rules section clearly states that if your mount move more then five feet you can only make a single melee attack, so full attacking is out. Absolutely. My Bad. I cut off one paragraph too soon :(BltzKrg2422012-05-18T12:42:18ZRe: Forums: Rules Questions: Mounted: Mount Actions vs. PC actionsSerisanhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2o4n4?Mounted-Mount-Actions-vs-PC-actions#72012-05-18T02:55:24Z2012-05-18T02:55:24Z<p>To quote the rules for Korpen:</p>
<div class="messageboard-quotee">Quote:</div><blockquote><p>Combat while Mounted: With a DC 5 Ride check, you can guide your mount with your knees so as to use both hands to attack or defend yourself. This is a free action.</p>
<p>When you attack a creature smaller than your mount that is on foot, you get the +1 bonus on melee attacks for being on higher ground. If your mount moves more than 5 feet, you can only make a single melee attack. Essentially, you have to wait until the mount gets to your enemy before attacking, so you can't make a full attack. Even at your mount's full speed, you don't take any penalty on melee attacks while mounted.</blockquote><p>Ranged, however, can full attack while mounted.
<div class="messageboard-quotee">Quote:</div><blockquote>You can use ranged weapons while your mount is taking a double move, but at a –4 penalty on the attack roll. You can use ranged weapons while your mount is running (quadruple speed) at a –8 penalty. In either case, you make the attack roll when your mount has completed half its movement. You can make a full attack with a ranged weapon while your mount is moving. Likewise, you can take move actions normally.</blockquote><p>To quote the rules for Korpen:
Quote:Combat while Mounted: With a DC 5 Ride check, you can guide your mount with your knees so as to use both hands to attack or defend yourself. This is a free action.
When you attack a creature smaller than your mount that is on foot, you get the +1 bonus on melee attacks for being on higher ground. If your mount moves more than 5 feet, you can only make a single melee attack. Essentially, you have to wait until the mount gets to your enemy before...Serisan2012-05-18T02:55:24ZRe: Forums: Rules Questions: Mounted: Mount Actions vs. PC actionsKorpenhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2o4n4?Mounted-Mount-Actions-vs-PC-actions#62012-05-18T02:48:29Z2012-05-18T02:48:29Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">BltzKrg242 wrote:</div><blockquote><p> Pathfinder isn't 3.5 tho.
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When the mount uses <b>it's</b> move action to move, that leaves you with <b>your</b> move action and can therefore still take a full round action </blockquote><p>However, the rules on mounted combat in the rules section clearly states that if your mount move more then five feet you can only make a single melee attack, so full attacking is out.BltzKrg242 wrote:Pathfinder isn't 3.5 tho.
When the mount uses it's move action to move, that leaves you with your move action and can therefore still take a full round action
However, the rules on mounted combat in the rules section clearly states that if your mount move more then five feet you can only make a single melee attack, so full attacking is out.Korpen2012-05-18T02:48:29ZRe: Forums: Rules Questions: Mounted: Mount Actions vs. PC actionsBltzKrg242https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2o4n4?Mounted-Mount-Actions-vs-PC-actions#52012-05-17T22:26:36Z2012-05-17T22:26:36Z<p>Pathfinder isn't 3.5 tho.
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When the mount uses <b>it's</b> move action to move, that leaves you with <b>your</b> move action and can therefore still take a full round action</p>Pathfinder isn't 3.5 tho.
When the mount uses it's move action to move, that leaves you with your move action and can therefore still take a full round actionBltzKrg2422012-05-17T22:26:36ZRe: Forums: Rules Questions: Mounted: Mount Actions vs. PC actionsHowie23https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2o4n4?Mounted-Mount-Actions-vs-PC-actions#42012-05-17T20:26:54Z2012-05-17T20:26:54Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">FireclawDrake wrote:</div><blockquote> Alright, that makes sense. If you want the charge bonuses, you take the penalties associated with a charge (that being only a single attack, and the AC penalties), however, if you simply direct your mount to move, you can take a full attack.</blockquote><p>You can only take a full attack from a moving mount if the mount moves via a 5-foot-step or if you are attacking with ranged weapons. I have a link in my profile to the 3.5 Rules of the Games articles on Mounted Combat. They are a good starting point on mounted combat nuances.FireclawDrake wrote:Alright, that makes sense. If you want the charge bonuses, you take the penalties associated with a charge (that being only a single attack, and the AC penalties), however, if you simply direct your mount to move, you can take a full attack.
You can only take a full attack from a moving mount if the mount moves via a 5-foot-step or if you are attacking with ranged weapons. I have a link in my profile to the 3.5 Rules of the Games articles on Mounted Combat. They are a...Howie232012-05-17T20:26:54ZRe: Forums: Rules Questions: Mounted: Mount Actions vs. PC actionsFireclawDrakehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2o4n4?Mounted-Mount-Actions-vs-PC-actions#32012-05-17T19:44:51Z2012-05-17T19:44:51Z<p>Alright, that makes sense. If you want the charge bonuses, you take the penalties associated with a charge (that being only a single attack, and the AC penalties), however, if you simply direct your mount to move, you can take a full attack. Makes sense.</p>Alright, that makes sense. If you want the charge bonuses, you take the penalties associated with a charge (that being only a single attack, and the AC penalties), however, if you simply direct your mount to move, you can take a full attack. Makes sense.FireclawDrake2012-05-17T19:44:51ZRe: Forums: Rules Questions: Mounted: Mount Actions vs. PC actionsBltzKrg242https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2o4n4?Mounted-Mount-Actions-vs-PC-actions#22012-05-17T18:54:05Z2012-05-17T18:54:05Z<p><i>Attacking on a Charge: After moving, you may make a single melee attack. You get a +2 bonus on the attack roll and take a –2 penalty to your AC until the start of your next turn.</i></p>
<p><i>If your mount charges, you also take the AC penalty associated with a charge. If you make an attack at the end of the charge, you receive the bonus gained from the charge. When charging on horseback, you deal double damage with a lance (see Charge).</i></p>
<p>However if you just use the mounts movement to get to the bad guy then yes you can make a full attack.
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<i>Your mount acts on your initiative count as you direct it. You move at its speed, but the mount uses its action to move.</i></p>Attacking on a Charge: After moving, you may make a single melee attack. You get a +2 bonus on the attack roll and take a –2 penalty to your AC until the start of your next turn.
If your mount charges, you also take the AC penalty associated with a charge. If you make an attack at the end of the charge, you receive the bonus gained from the charge. When charging on horseback, you deal double damage with a lance (see Charge).
However if you just use the mounts movement to get to the bad guy...BltzKrg2422012-05-17T18:54:05ZForums: Rules Questions: Mounted: Mount Actions vs. PC actionsFireclawDrakehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2o4n4?Mounted-Mount-Actions-vs-PC-actions#12012-05-18T15:44:27Z2012-05-17T18:33:01Z<p>Alright, a bit of a question here:</p>
<p>Give the fact that a mount (presumably) seperate actions than the character riding it. With this in mind, how does a character "charge" while mounted? Does the mount charge? Does this then leave the mounted character free to do a full attack? If they do, will they still get the charge bonuses?</p>
<p>I'm not sure if there are rules on this, but I can't seem to find them. Mounts are an exception to the normal rules.</p>Alright, a bit of a question here:
Give the fact that a mount (presumably) seperate actions than the character riding it. With this in mind, how does a character "charge" while mounted? Does the mount charge? Does this then leave the mounted character free to do a full attack? If they do, will they still get the charge bonuses?
I'm not sure if there are rules on this, but I can't seem to find them. Mounts are an exception to the normal rules.FireclawDrake2012-05-17T18:33:01Z