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Kyras Ausks wrote:
mdt wrote:

I played a cleric/monk who flurried with a scythe.

Worship god with scythe for favored weapon.

Take Crusader Flurry Feat, flurry with diety weapon.

Take Flowing Monk, trip opponents, smash with scythe while on ground.

Giggle and ask strangers if they have their will up to date...

i wounder if you can pull that off without dual classes

I haven't found any way, but I didn't mind the Cleric level. GM allowed me to channel negative energy since I worshiped a death goddess (despite being good). Was nice to be able to self heal when I needed to (or bless or whatever). I even took a level of Druid (Menhir savant) to be able to do the at-will detect undead/fey/etherial/etc. Gave me some more healing too. Was great. :) Other than the double BAB hit. :( On the bright side, any increases in Druid/Cleric helped BAB after that first double hit.

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My Ulfen scythe wielding barbarian fought a giant boar in the first few encounters of the Kingmaker AP. Crit and took it down first swing, I loved that scythe. The DM later encouraged me to change to a greataxe, out of sympathy I obliged.


riatin wrote:
My Ulfen scythe wielding barbarian fought a giant boar in the first few encounters of the Kingmaker AP. Crit and took it down first swing, I loved that scythe. The DM later encouraged me to change to a greataxe, out of sympathy I obliged.

To change the fight from 1HKO to merely "mopping up" territory?

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lemeres wrote:
riatin wrote:
My Ulfen scythe wielding barbarian fought a giant boar in the first few encounters of the Kingmaker AP. Crit and took it down first swing, I loved that scythe. The DM later encouraged me to change to a greataxe, out of sympathy I obliged.
To change the fight from 1HKO to merely "mopping up" territory?

Mostly, doing 60ish points of damage at first level was seen as 'overkill,' HA!


mdt wrote:
Kyras Ausks wrote:
mdt wrote:

I played a cleric/monk who flurried with a scythe.

Worship god with scythe for favored weapon.

Take Crusader Flurry Feat, flurry with diety weapon.

Take Flowing Monk, trip opponents, smash with scythe while on ground.

Giggle and ask strangers if they have their will up to date...

i wounder if you can pull that off without dual classes
I haven't found any way, but I didn't mind the Cleric level. GM allowed me to channel negative energy since I worshiped a death goddess (despite being good). Was nice to be able to self heal when I needed to (or bless or whatever). I even took a level of Druid (Menhir savant) to be able to do the at-will detect undead/fey/etherial/etc. Gave me some more healing too. Was great. :) Other than the double BAB hit. :( On the bright side, any increases in Druid/Cleric helped BAB after that first double hit.

found one but its 3.5 but printed buy Paizo: dragon compendium, unorthodox flurry


The Drunken Dragon wrote:
Not a farmer's weapon. An ordinary farmer's scythe isn't a weapon at all. The sharp part is on the inside of the weapon, making it hideously limited in its uses for combat

I grew up on a farm, and we had several old and antique farm implements in the barns. I'm here to tell you, the farmer's scythe would make the worst melee weapon ever. It's big, unwieldy, and the recovery time after a swing would just leave you wide open to nearly any attack that comes at you.


Castarr4 wrote:
I think I can see why it would be a trip weapon. You would use a combat scythe differently than a typical polearm because you would still use the handles attached to the shaft for a better grip. That changes how you swing it.

This is what has me confused about the pictures linked earlier. I've held a real scythe as part of a theatre production, and the thing's shaft is not straight. It's twisted to provide the proper positioning for the two handles attached to it.

So I'd have to think converting a farming scythe to a war scythe would not only involve re-attaching the blade at a different angle, but also replacing the shaft altogether, if those sketches are in any wise accurate.


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Lord Pendragon wrote:
Castarr4 wrote:
I think I can see why it would be a trip weapon. You would use a combat scythe differently than a typical polearm because you would still use the handles attached to the shaft for a better grip. That changes how you swing it.

This is what has me confused about the pictures linked earlier. I've held a real scythe as part of a theatre production, and the thing's shaft is not straight. It's twisted to provide the proper positioning for the two handles attached to it.

So I'd have to think converting a farming scythe to a war scythe would not only involve re-attaching the blade at a different angle, but also replacing the shaft altogether, if those sketches are in any wise accurate.

There are different designs for scythes. Some have straight handles, others have a curve, and there's a range that fall in between.

Have a look at the Wikipedia page for them, Scythe


Kalshane wrote:
Sissyl wrote:
The scythe in D&D owes its entire existence to the Diablo 2 necromancer, IIRC.
Magus in Chrono Trigger predates Diablo 2 by about 5 years.

This is actually where I got my first real "impression" of scythes as weapons. It was daggum awesome.

... it's also the reason I spent hours in by back yard trying to wield that stupid, heavy, rusting, dull, loose, and completely worthless hunk of junk in any way whatsoever that would come close to cutting trees, limbs, bushes, and the like as compared to, say, my really old, dented machete. The machete was better every time, even on grass.

... until I finally worked out how to actually wield a scythe and it was really disappointing. Steady, slower-but-still-swift cuts near the base of the ground and little maneuverability for actual cutting. Piercing worked okay, but the machete and wakizashi were far superior. Now, if I actually wanted to trip someone with it, I was far more likely to be able to do that with a scythe (if I ever got the chance), and it made a pretty interesting pole-arm, given that it wasn't straight (the wood was a careful kind of curved "jag"). The various handholds were interesting as well.

Ultimately, however, it was just too heavy, unwieldy, and, worst of all, thus slow to be that great.

Tels wrote:
Tinkergoth wrote:
Ashiel wrote:
Tels wrote:
Who says Scythe's aren't cool?
My infinite thanks for reminding me of this. ^_^
I'm trying to figure out why the hell I've never heard of this before. My housemate has some bloody explaining to do, given that I just yelled out asking if he's ever heard of RWBY and his response was 'of course'. Why the hell wasn't he sharing the awesome?

Episode 1.

** spoiler omitted **

So, uh, this is the first I've heard of this. Looks really cool. Thanks!


Tels wrote:
Tinkergoth wrote:
Ashiel wrote:
Tels wrote:
Who says Scythe's aren't cool?
My infinite thanks for reminding me of this. ^_^
I'm trying to figure out why the hell I've never heard of this before. My housemate has some bloody explaining to do, given that I just yelled out asking if he's ever heard of RWBY and his response was 'of course'. Why the hell wasn't he sharing the awesome?

Episode 1.

** spoiler omitted **

Wow. Never heard of RWBY before today. I'm finding it pretty cool despite the really low production values and somewhat cheesy dialogue. They certainly know how to make dynamic fight scenes.

Props to them for getting Jen "Cortana" Taylor to do the opening narration in the first episode, as well.


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If you like RWBY, you should check out Monty's older series, Dead Fantasy. It's not completed, though he's mentioned he might go back to it when he gets a few other things off his plate. It's fighting just as eye candy. Still, regarding RWBY, I don't find the visual style bothersome at all. It's no worse than Reboot, contextually speaking, and it's certain to improve with time and experience.


Well, Reboot annoyed the heck out of me back in the day. I just couldn't get past the clunky visuals.

ETA: I'm big on visuals. Bad art/animation/whatever takes a lot for me to overlook.

For example, it took me forever to finally get around to reading the Scott Pilgrim comics, even though several people I trusted raved about them, because the art style bugged me. I loved them once I did, but I had to force myself to "deal with" the art.

The Spectacular Spider-man cartoon was a similar situation for me. I initially wrote it off because the art style bugged me, but a guy at work who was a huge Spider-man fan raved about it and I gave it a try. The writing and great and inventive action sequences managed to win me over, but the weird "doll arms" still bug me to this day.


Kalshane wrote:
Tels wrote:
Tinkergoth wrote:
Ashiel wrote:
Tels wrote:
Who says Scythe's aren't cool?
My infinite thanks for reminding me of this. ^_^
I'm trying to figure out why the hell I've never heard of this before. My housemate has some bloody explaining to do, given that I just yelled out asking if he's ever heard of RWBY and his response was 'of course'. Why the hell wasn't he sharing the awesome?

Episode 1.

** spoiler omitted **

Wow. Never heard of RWBY before today. I'm finding it pretty cool despite the really low production values and somewhat cheesy dialogue. They certainly know how to make dynamic fight scenes.

Props to them for getting Jen "Cortana" Taylor to do the opening narration in the first episode, as well.

I've just recently finished watching episode 8 and all I can say is I'm thirsty for more. A heck of a lot better than most of the junk on tv IMHO. It's something I actually care to watch (Avatar: The Legend of Korra being about the only animated show I'm watching besides this one).


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Ashiel wrote:
I've just recently finished watching episode 8 and all I can say is I'm thirsty for more. A heck of a lot better than most of the junk on tv IMHO. It's something I actually care to watch (Avatar: The Legend of Korra being about the only animated show I'm watching besides this one).

I have to say that episode 8 had some of the coolest battles I've seen in a long time.

Episode 9 is up on Rooster Teeth's website. http://roosterteeth.com/archive/?id=8075


Ashiel wrote:
Kalshane wrote:
Tels wrote:
Tinkergoth wrote:
Ashiel wrote:
Tels wrote:
Who says Scythe's aren't cool?
My infinite thanks for reminding me of this. ^_^
I'm trying to figure out why the hell I've never heard of this before. My housemate has some bloody explaining to do, given that I just yelled out asking if he's ever heard of RWBY and his response was 'of course'. Why the hell wasn't he sharing the awesome?

Episode 1.

** spoiler omitted **

Wow. Never heard of RWBY before today. I'm finding it pretty cool despite the really low production values and somewhat cheesy dialogue. They certainly know how to make dynamic fight scenes.

Props to them for getting Jen "Cortana" Taylor to do the opening narration in the first episode, as well.

I've just recently finished watching episode 8 and all I can say is I'm thirsty for more. A heck of a lot better than most of the junk on tv IMHO. It's something I actually care to watch (Avatar: The Legend of Korra being about the only animated show I'm watching besides this one).

Is it wrong, that when Pyrrha was explaining Aura to Jaun, and Ren was fighting the twin snakes, all I could think of is, "That's what a Monk is supposed to be like!"

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DungeonmasterCal wrote:


I grew up on a farm, and we had several old and antique farm implements in the barns. I'm here to tell you, the farmer's scythe would make the worst melee weapon ever. It's big, unwieldy, and the recovery time after a swing would just leave you wide open to nearly any attack that comes at you.

Agreed and seconded. As well as hand version as well. Fantasy rpgs take liberties with many objects as weapons that in reality would be the worst things around to use imo.


Tels wrote:
Is it wrong, that when Pyrrha was explaining Aura to Jaun, and Ren was fighting the twin snakes, all I could think of is, "That's what a Monk is supposed to be like!"

Gun-Fu FTW! *boop*


Kazaan wrote:
Tels wrote:
Is it wrong, that when Pyrrha was explaining Aura to Jaun, and Ren was fighting the twin snakes, all I could think of is, "That's what a Monk is supposed to be like!"
Gun-Fu FTW! *boop*

When Nora dropped out of the tree, I almost fell out of my chair laughing. Nora is that psycho-cute girl that is adorable as hell, but has a penchant for destruction and mayhem.


Tels wrote:
When Nora dropped out of the tree, I almost fell out of my chair laughing. Nora is that psycho-cute girl that is adorable as hell, but has a penchant for destruction and mayhem.

Hmm, you're actually describing the Yandere personality trope. Nora is actually more of the Genki Girl. The main difference is that Yandere is psycho and has penchant for destruction for a purpose... typically an obsession. They'll be typically sweet, but when the object of their obsession is in peril, nothing is sacred and anything goes. Genki is sometimes violent and destructive, but it's more because of impulsive nature and getting "lost in excitement" rather than prompted by an obsession. For Yandere, getting tossed 30' in the air as part of an attack is a necessity towards some purpose. For Genki, it's just part of the thrill of the moment. In short, Yandere is Harley Quinn while Genki is DeeDee (from Dexter's Lab).


I never mentioned Nora having an obsession, I mentioned her having a tendency towards destruction. I mean, her chosen weapon is basically a grenade launcher and a hammer. It seemed obvious she enjoys high-energy encounters, and is one of those people that loves attention (obvious from the "Ruby!" "Yang!" "NORA!" moment). However, if she turns out Yandere, it wouldn't surprise me at all. She was dead set on being Ren's partner, and they've been best friends forever.


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I love her launcher, btw. When my daughter (7yo) saw it, she said it fires "heart attacks".


Tels wrote:
Ashiel wrote:
Kalshane wrote:
Tels wrote:
Tinkergoth wrote:
Ashiel wrote:
Tels wrote:
Who says Scythe's aren't cool?
My infinite thanks for reminding me of this. ^_^
I'm trying to figure out why the hell I've never heard of this before. My housemate has some bloody explaining to do, given that I just yelled out asking if he's ever heard of RWBY and his response was 'of course'. Why the hell wasn't he sharing the awesome?

Episode 1.

** spoiler omitted **

Wow. Never heard of RWBY before today. I'm finding it pretty cool despite the really low production values and somewhat cheesy dialogue. They certainly know how to make dynamic fight scenes.

Props to them for getting Jen "Cortana" Taylor to do the opening narration in the first episode, as well.

I've just recently finished watching episode 8 and all I can say is I'm thirsty for more. A heck of a lot better than most of the junk on tv IMHO. It's something I actually care to watch (Avatar: The Legend of Korra being about the only animated show I'm watching besides this one).
Is it wrong, that when Pyrrha was explaining Aura to Jaun, and Ren was fighting the twin snakes, all I could think of is, "That's what a Monk is supposed to be like!"

That's what the monk is like in the games I play it. =P


Tels wrote:
I never mentioned Nora having an obsession, I mentioned her having a tendency towards destruction. I mean, her chosen weapon is basically a grenade launcher and a hammer. It seemed obvious she enjoys high-energy encounters, and is one of those people that loves attention (obvious from the "Ruby!" "Yang!" "NORA!" moment). However, if she turns out Yandere, it wouldn't surprise me at all. She was dead set on being Ren's partner, and they've been best friends forever.

Nora is awesome. And the name-shouting moment is hilarious. Actually, most of what she does in episode 8 (and the end of episode 7-or whatever episode it is where Ren fights the snakes) is pretty dang entertaining.

I also like Pyrrha a lot, I just hope her name isn't foreshadowing.

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