Rappan Athuk


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How much is over-seas (UK) P&P for a $100 level?

I might be able to us a US PO Box, but was wondering the comparison.

Grand Lodge

Pathfinder Adventure, Rulebook Subscriber; Pathfinder Battles Case Subscriber
Alzrius wrote:
TriOmegaZero wrote:
Kthulhu wrote:
Tri - From the preview, they do seem to have upgraded things to be PF-compatible. I noticed that the entries all had CMB and CMD.
I should go check my copy. That's a bit strange considering it was supposedly going to be used with Trailblazer.
Combat Maneuver Bonus and Combat Maneuver Defense are part of Trailblazer (see page 107 of the print book). As Trailblazer came out right around the same time as Pathfinder, it used some of Pathfinder's Open Game Content.

I think it's more a sign of separate parallel design. The Trailblazer size modifier chart is nothing like the PF one.

Dark Archive

Kthulhu wrote:
Agreed. The first Kickstarter project I ever funded met it's funding on March 21, 2010. While the most recent updated DID finally give a fairly substantial preview PDF, the fact that it's taken TWO YEARS to get there is pretty horrible.

The delays have been far from ideal, but I'm sure the project will get there in the end.

However, the other Kickstarter project I supported at more or less the same time (edit 16 March 2010) is almost definitely vapourware.

(Its not an issue with the great guys at Frog God, but as far as I can see Kickstarter gives you no protection whatsoever if the project achieves its funding but the people behind it never deliver the promised product.)

Shadow Lodge

Yeah, while Kickstarter can be very tempting (look at all the Rappan Athuk swag!), I think from this point forward I'll only use it for companies with a proven track record (like FGG).


The other use, is if you are after the swag that will be sent out immediately, and whatever gets made is more of a bonus.


Itchy wrote:
DaveMage wrote:
Woohoo! Free frogs for everyone! (Or something. :) )

The last time that we went to the dentist, our dentist gave my son a little bag of plastic frogs as a prize. Each frog is about 2cm long. I was looking at them last night and thought, "Wouldn't it be funny if Frog God Games tossed a little plastic frog like this into each Rappan Athuk box that they ship out?"

-Aaron

Like These Little Frogs?


Blonde Frog wrote:
Like These Little Frogs?

After doing a little hunting, I am fairly certain that they are these Little Frogs. There are more paint schemes than shown in the picture. We have some of those shown, but some of the ones we have are painted differently.

By the way, I enjoyed the picture that is on the T-shirt!

-Aaron


I emailed Bill yesterday. I'm hoping that it is not too late to combine shipping of this with my copy of Slumbering Tsar. I know that it will delay my getting Slumbering Tsar, but will mean a savings in shipping and less packaging that I have to deal with in the long run. Besides, I won't be running either adventure for a while.

-Aaron


I really want a hard copy of the Pathfinder book, but both PDFs. (Or at least the PDF of the Swords & Wizardry version.)

I see that the $100 option includes the book and only one PDF.

If I give $100 to the Kickstarter, what options do I have to get this? First, is it possible to get the book of one system along with the PDF of the other system? Or how could I purchase a PDF separately? Thanks.


The Rot Grub wrote:

I really want a hard copy of the Pathfinder book, but both PDFs. (Or at least the PDF of the Swords & Wizardry version.)

If I give $100 to the Kickstarter, what options do I have to get this? Thanks.

You'll get both versions of the PDF if they reach the $96,327 pledge goal. If you want that, get people to pledge and meet the goal!


Macharius wrote:
The Rot Grub wrote:

I really want a hard copy of the Pathfinder book, but both PDFs. (Or at least the PDF of the Swords & Wizardry version.)

If I give $100 to the Kickstarter, what options do I have to get this? Thanks.

You'll get both versions of the PDF if they reach the $96,327 pledge goal. If you want that, get people to pledge and meet the goal!

Really? That's awesome! This Kickstarter rocks!

Shadow Lodge

Also, if you purchase via Kickstarter, you'll be able to tell the Frogs what version you want for both your print version and your PDF. So if you took the $100 pledge, even if the V20 goal wasn't exceeded, you could tell them you want a Pathfinder print version and the Swords & Wizardry PDF, or vice versa.

RPG Superstar 2010 Top 32

Currently sitting at $86,666. Which is amusing, but who'll be the patron to mess up such a nice, round number?

Frog God Games

I sent out a company-wide memo when we hit that number basically saying that our fans are a bunch of little scamps.


Someone will mess up that perfect number. I am sure someone wants the next level pledge bonus.

Shadow Lodge

I hope someone messes it up.


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They could go for the 10k pledge - that wouldnt mess anything up. :)

Shadow Lodge

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I've found a bit of a spoiler, if anyone is interested:

Shadow Lodge

Oh geez, I knew it!


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Kthulhu wrote:

I've found a bit of a spoiler, if anyone is interested:

That is no longer accurate, it doesn't happen there; really, it can happen anywhere.

SG

Scarab Sages

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And Everywhere...


Skeeter Green wrote:
Kthulhu wrote:

I've found a bit of a spoiler, if anyone is interested:

That is no longer accurate, it doesn't happen there; really, it can happen anywhere.

SG

But if you die isn't that the end?!


Death is only the beginning...

Ghostwalk and that other game come to mind.

Regards,
Ruemere


ruemere wrote:

Death is only the beginning...

Ghostwalk and that other game come to mind.

So that's how Imhotep did his thing in The Mummy! Methinks I see an Osirian campaign on the horizon...


ruemere wrote:

Death is only the beginning...

Ghostwalk and that other game come to mind.

Regards,
Ruemere

I actually have that other game! LOL!


Itchy wrote:
Blonde Frog wrote:
Like These Little Frogs?

After doing a little hunting, I am fairly certain that they are these Little Frogs. There are more paint schemes than shown in the picture. We have some of those shown, but some of the ones we have are painted differently.

By the way, I enjoyed the picture that is on the T-shirt!

-Aaron

Thanks Aaron!

Frog God Games

Several folks have indicated a desire for a player-only pledge option on our kickstarter.

Here blonde frog and the frogs-at-large have made, not one, but three options available!


Dawn R Fischer wrote:

Several folks have indicated a desire for a player-only pledge option on our kickstarter.

Here blonde frog and the frogs-at-large have made, not one, but three options available!

Sweet!

Frog God Games

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DSXMachina wrote:

How much is over-seas (UK) P&P for a $100 level?

I might be able to us a US PO Box, but was wondering the comparison.

I don't know shipping until I know if it will fit in a medium or large priority box. Figure the flat rate plus about $3 for shipping stuff (labels, tape, buddle wrap, peanuts).

After packing Tsar (we used almost $1200 in shipping materials for the first 400 books), I have a better handle on materials costs. I am taking no chances with damage, so we are over-packing the Hell out of these books. I feel pretty strongly that if you guys drop $100+ on a book, I better get you one in mint condition.

On that note--Greg and I rejected about 25 copies of Tsar based on corner damage, glue on cover etc., so you guys are getting very nice copies. Most people would sell these, I won't.

Frog God Games

ps--US postage is MUCH less. On Tsar it was $17 (should have been $18) vs. $63 (should have been $64).


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Bill Webb wrote:


On that note--Greg and I rejected about 25 copies of Tsar based on corner damage, glue on cover etc., so you guys are getting very nice copies. Most people would sell these, I won't.

If only everyone held to those kinds of quality control standards. You're a class act, Mr. Webb.


Dr. Johnny Fever wrote:
You're a class act, Mr. Webb.

I agree.


I hope that this question hasn't already been asked, but what will Rappan Athuk be "rated." IE PG -13, R, etc...? I'm very interested in buying, but "R" stuff has never interested me.

Dark Archive

dbass wrote:
I hope that this question hasn't already been asked, but what will Rappan Athuk be "rated." IE PG -13, R, etc...? I'm very interested in buying, but "R" stuff has never interested me.

I would have to say "R" if the goal is to slaughter everything in site.

Rated "R" for violence!!!


Well maybe I should clarify...violence isn't an issue. It's stuff like raping, gore, murdering children, etc that I have never liked. So if violence is the only issue, than I'm in!


Pity my eyesight is short so I don't have a driver's license to use Kickstarter.

Frog God Games

We hope that you will, through the generosity of those who pledged for this kickstarter, be able to find Rappan Athuk displayed at your local game store due to the fact that distribution will now be possible.

It won't be cheaper this way, but those who like to support their FLGS will be able to do so. Also, I do believe that Paizo will also have some books for sale on their webstore.

Obviously you won't be able to get those extras that kickstarter supporters can, but that is for a reason. Perks are a reward for those who put down money far in advance of a book's publication.


dbass wrote:
Well maybe I should clarify...violence isn't an issue. It's stuff like raping, gore, murdering children, etc that I have never liked. So if violence is the only issue, than I'm in!

Wow.

Uhm, yeah, we at FGG (and I think I can speak for everyone on this) Do not play that way. we have scary monsters, and there is definitely a LOT of "killing the bad guys", but none of the other side issues you mention.

Just to give an idea/example: Bill plays his game with his 2 kids, 7 and 10. And more pleasant kids you'll never meet.

Bill's D&D vision is a family-friendly game you can play with younger kids. Although hearing a 6 (or 7 at the time) year old girl squeal "Daddy, I bash the orcs head in with my mace!" is very funny to me.

Really, the violence is just inferred as well. I do not believe we go into any kind of graphic detail at any point, but I'm brain-fried and might be forgetting something.

SG


Hey

less than $7k to break the record.

C'mon gang!

SG


dbass wrote:
Well maybe I should clarify...violence isn't an issue. It's stuff like raping, gore, murdering children, etc that I have never liked. So if violence is the only issue, than I'm in!

As a Slumbering Tsar subscriber, an owner of The Black Monastery, and a father, I rate FGG products as "R" for violence. That violence is mainly directed at the PCs (survival rates look low on these adventures).

I'm currently reading through Carrion Crown and I am finding that IT is less kid-friendly than The Black Monastery is.

Just my two cents.

-Aaron


Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Starfinder Adventure Path Subscriber

There is a n'gathau in the adventure that's sorta gory, though.

Shadow Lodge

Black Monastary did have full-on demon junk. At least the S&W version. Pathfinder version has a black rectangular "fig leaf" in place censoring the demon junk.

Sovereign Court RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32, 2010 Top 8

Kthulhu wrote:
Black Monastary did have full-on demon junk. At least the S&W version. Pathfinder version has a black rectangular "fig leaf" in place censoring the demon junk.

That has more to do with Pathfinder's compatibility license than anything. *shrug* I'm more a prude than most posters, so I don't see an issue of Paizo wants a bit of censorship from its compeditors/allies.


Mattew Morris wrote:
That has more to do with Pathfinder's compatibility license than anything. *shrug* I'm more a prude than most posters, so I don't see an issue of Paizo wants a bit of censorship from its compeditors/allies.

My pdf of the pathfinder version is pre-edit. I figure that I'll keep the unedited copy for posterity, but use the "fig-leafed" copy for general use.

I pretty much agree with Matthew Morris' sentiment. But let's not thread-jack this thread with that.

-Aaron


Pathfinder Battles Case Subscriber
Skeeter Green wrote:

Hey

less than $7k to break the record.

C'mon gang!

SG

I put in my pledge last night!


WOO! We've hit $90K! Well done frogs, and everyone else! Let's keep it rolling, I want more free stuff!

Sovereign Court RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32, 2010 Top 8

Itchy wrote:
Mattew Morris wrote:
That has more to do with Pathfinder's compatibility license than anything. *shrug* I'm more a prude than most posters, so I don't see an issue of Paizo wants a bit of censorship from its compeditors/allies.

My pdf of the pathfinder version is pre-edit. I figure that I'll keep the unedited copy for posterity, but use the "fig-leafed copy for general use.

I pretty much agree with Matthew Morris' sentiment. But let's not thread-jack this thread with that.

-Aaron

Agreed,

Oh, another aside, you reminded me I needed to spend some of my Overtime money. Black Monestary is in my cart!

Frog God Games

dbass wrote:
Well maybe I should clarify...violence isn't an issue. It's stuff like raping, gore, murdering children, etc that I have never liked. So if violence is the only issue, than I'm in!

Nope--none of that in our books

Frog God Games

Kthulhu wrote:
Black Monastary did have full-on demon junk. At least the S&W version. Pathfinder version has a black rectangular "fig leaf" in place censoring the demon junk.

Correct--in a Greek-statue kinda way. I am pretty careful that my 10 year old can see my books--that's my standard.


Bill Webb wrote:
Correct--in a Greek-statue kinda way. I am pretty careful that my 10 year old can see my books--that's my standard.

That's my standard too. Fatherhood (and I assume Parenthood in general) does that to you.

My son loves to look through Papa's "Dragon Books." Anything Pathfinder or D&D is a "Dragon Book" to him. I am eagerly anticipating the day that I can introduce him and his friends to Role-Playing games.

-Aaron

To further wander from the main point of this thread, my alma-mater, Norwich Free Academy has a whole bunch of plaster casts of famous Classical and Renaissance statuary (La Pieta, David, and many others) in the Slater Museum that was donated to the high school many years ago. When they were reassembled, plaster fig leaves were added to the statuary (a common practice of the time). More info here.

It was pretty cool to be able to see such important pieces of art at any time for no cost.

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