Rappan Athuk


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VP Sales & Marketing, Frog God Games

Brvheart, what TwoWolves said :)


Ok, well I signed up last night and emailed Bill my account name.

Liberty's Edge

Hey there Frog Gods,

I asked this question earlier in the thread but I think it got overlooked. No big deal for me, but I just got a message from another poster asking about it, so I thought I'd see what you guys think before I do anything.

I've been making full-colour reproductions of the Rappan Athuk maps in Photoshop for my own game. Do you have a problem with me sharing them, possibly in this thread, or maybe privately (through email/PM/etc), for anyone who might have a use for them?

They're created in Photoshop and have no copyright issues I can think of - the only non-original images in them are free-to-use textures and some objects created by users on the Dundjinni forums. But, of course, the "shape" of the map is all yours. So I wouldn't want to cross any boundaries here.

Thanks!

--Alice

Grand Lodge

Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber

Wow I hope it is OK because I would love to see them


As would I :)

- Gauss


Alice, if you get permission I would love to have copies!

Scarab Sages

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Me too...

VP Sales & Marketing, Frog God Games

Alice Margatroid wrote:

Hey there Frog Gods,

I asked this question earlier in the thread but I think it got overlooked. No big deal for me, but I just got a message from another poster asking about it, so I thought I'd see what you guys think before I do anything.

I've been making full-colour reproductions of the Rappan Athuk maps in Photoshop for my own game. Do you have a problem with me sharing them, possibly in this thread, or maybe privately (through email/PM/etc), for anyone who might have a use for them?

They're created in Photoshop and have no copyright issues I can think of - the only non-original images in them are free-to-use textures and some objects created by users on the Dundjinni forums. But, of course, the "shape" of the map is all yours. So I wouldn't want to cross any boundaries here.

Thanks!

--Alice

I am really not in a position to answer this (or at least not with an answer you all want to hear). Bill or Matt Finch would be the ones who would know for certain but as I understand it Maps are IP and do not fall under the OGL. Once you start taking that and changing it in Photoshop is where you lose me on the legality. This is one reason we offered the D20Pro files. Not only are the interactive and dynamic but the IP is encrypted which means we don't get into the grey zone on the map issue. So I'll give the other frogs a heads up to see if they have a better response.

Swords and Wizardry Lead Developer, Frog God Games

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Alice,
The quick answer is yes, you can share the maps. The longer answer is that we'd like you to put (somewhere, in medium-sized print) "Map copyright Frog God Games, LLC, talesofthefroggod.com" onto the map somewhere. You can put your own copyright on there as well, as: "Cartography by ..."

Also, this would have to remain a fan creation; in other words, you can't charge for it.

...and we'd love to see it!

PS: just in case, we reserve the right to ask for the map to be taken down, but we don't anticipate having to do that. This gives us the room to avoid having it show up next to "Pictures from the Book of Super-Erotic Fantasy" or something else we didn't anticipate.

Thanks for being a fan!


Given that it sounds legal: Alice, please include me in those emails!! I'm using the black and white maps as we speak for my D20pro campaign. Thanks a million!
Jeff...

Liberty's Edge

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Excellent, Matthew! :) I'm glad there's a solution that makes everyone happy. Frog Gods, feel free to do whatever you like with these maps!

Few notes first of all:

* I'm no professional map maker - just someone who followed a few tutorials over at the Cartographer's Guild. As such the quality/style between pretty much every map I make is pretty different and there are tonnes of areas where I could improve. (I'm learning new things every time I make one!) So I appreciate constructive criticism and feedback :)

* Secondly, these maps are most likely not at a big enough resolution to be useful for any kind of live play. I originally had all maps at 2x their current resolution but my computer couldn't handle it... :P They should be fine enough for virtual tabletops, however.

* Lastly, I consider these an artistic interpretation of the original maps, not an exact 1-to-1 correspondence. Sometimes things may be in slightly different places, rooms at slightly different sizes, etc. However I strived to make it as faithful to the original as possible!

So here's the maps! Players, please keep out!

Level 1-C: The Mouth of doom:
Note: These maps are rather large (>2 MB) so I had to upload on Google drive instead of imgur. You'll need to click download (the arrow in the top-right corner) to see the full size.

1-C (with labels & secret doors/traps)
1-C (with labels, without secret doors/traps)
1-C (without labels, with secret doors)
1-C (without labels, without secret doors/traps)

I've only been making these as I need them - but if other people like these maps I'll see what I can do to start making other levels sooner. :)

Grand Lodge

Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber

Those are really nice, it is great to see the B&W interpreted in colour.

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Nice maps, Alice!

For anyone following it, my Rappan Athuk campaign journal has been updated. You can follow it here.

Daron Woodson
Abandoned Arts


Wow Alice!! These are great! I'll be using them ASAP! Thanks!!! Keep 'em coming! I tried to do something similar and couldn't make it work.


These are beautiful maps! Curious whether they work with D20Pro which I just got? And thanks to the Frogs for allowing them to be shared as a fan creation!

Liberty's Edge

Thanks all :)

@brvheart, I've never used D20Pro, but I'm sure they would. You would have to add things like fog of war yourself (usually not difficult) and maybe make the map smaller (depending on how large a file the software can handle) - maybe just cropping certain rooms with encounters out to use.

VP Sales & Marketing, Frog God Games

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Alice Margatroid wrote:

Thanks all :)

@brvheart, I've never used D20Pro, but I'm sure they would. You would have to add things like fog of war yourself (usually not difficult) and maybe make the map smaller (depending on how large a file the software can handle) - maybe just cropping certain rooms with encounters out to use.

Since Alice has kindly given permission to use them when I finish with Levels 11 - 15 I will add a set of the color maps without labels in the D20Pro Marketplace. The files will be free to download. I will add the scale to them so if you want to use them for play you can. Just note, some of the low res files may be pixelated. Great job Alice and I'm glad Matt had the solution :)


Color maps sound great! I am still trying to figger out how to use D20Pro so no rush here. Took me a few days to find out that you could scroll with the mouse to make the map bigger<G>. I was like, these maps are way too small to be useful... Any ETA on the HeroLab files for Razor Coast?


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Alice Margatroid wrote:

Excellent, Matthew! :) I'm glad there's a solution that makes everyone happy. Frog Gods, feel free to do whatever you like with these maps!

Few notes first of all:

* I'm no professional map maker - just someone who followed a few tutorials over at the Cartographer's Guild. As such the quality/style between pretty much every map I make is pretty different and there are tonnes of areas where I could improve. (I'm learning new things every time I make one!) So I appreciate constructive criticism and feedback :)

I dont think it would take much before you could be. These are awesome.

Please keep posting any extras you come up with. :)


Wow, very nice Alice! :)

- Gauss


Gauss wrote:

Wow, very nice Alice! :)

- Gauss

Ditto.

Awesome stuff!


Congratulations, Alice. That must have been a lot of hard work!

Thanks for posting them (and thanks to the Frog Gods for allowing us to enjoy them).


Truly excellent maps. Thanks!


Wow, great maps!


Thanks for the maps, you just saved me a lot of work when/if I get the chance to run it.

Dark Archive

Any word on when the next installments of CD and RASub are due to be released?

Publisher, Frog God Games

Very soon--the text and art are done for RA sub next


Just found this in Frog God's Game Products Page. The only other information I can give you is that it's listed as coming soon.


You are going to send me to the poor house<G>! Although I want it sooner, I need to get some money for it first:(


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i just got the pdf of this, and i have to say...

you guys are nuts:
5 liches?

completely nuts:
2 demiliches??

and awesome:
i nearly pooped my pants when i saw liz courts in the graveyard.

Layout and Design, Frog God Games

Alice Margatroid wrote:

Excellent, Matthew! :) I'm glad there's a solution that makes everyone happy. Frog Gods, feel free to do whatever you like with these maps!

Few notes first of all:

* I'm no professional map maker - just someone who followed a few tutorials over at the Cartographer's Guild. As such the quality/style between pretty much every map I make is pretty different and there are tonnes of areas where I could improve. (I'm learning new things every time I make one!) So I appreciate constructive criticism and feedback :)

* Secondly, these maps are most likely not at a big enough resolution to be useful for any kind of live play. I originally had all maps at 2x their current resolution but my computer couldn't handle it... :P They should be fine enough for virtual tabletops, however.

* Lastly, I consider these an artistic interpretation of the original maps, not an exact 1-to-1 correspondence. Sometimes things may be in slightly different places, rooms at slightly different sizes, etc. However I strived to make it as faithful to the original as possible!

So here's the maps! Players, please keep out!

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I'm very happy that this discussion was thread-o-manced back to life or I never would have seen these wonderful fan-maps!

Dark Archive

Does anyone know if we added a physical book to the SoA KS, will we have to wait for the whole order to ship before we get access to any add-on book pdfs?
I added Stoneheart valley to my SoA KS, but I don't know if I should be expecting the pdf anytime soon.


Alice Margatroid wrote:

Excellent, Matthew! :) I'm glad there's a solution that makes everyone happy. Frog Gods, feel free to do whatever you like with these maps!

Few notes first of all:

* I'm no professional map maker - just someone who followed a few tutorials over at the Cartographer's Guild. As such the quality/style between pretty much every map I make is pretty different and there are tonnes of areas where I could improve. (I'm learning new things every time I make one!) So I appreciate constructive criticism and feedback :)

* Secondly, these maps are most likely not at a big enough resolution to be useful for any kind of live play. I originally had all maps at 2x their current resolution but my computer couldn't handle it... :P They should be fine enough for virtual tabletops, however.

* Lastly, I consider these an artistic interpretation of the original maps, not an exact 1-to-1 correspondence. Sometimes things may be in slightly different places, rooms at slightly different sizes, etc. However I strived to make it as faithful to the original as possible!

So here's the maps! Players, please keep out!

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These maps are DOPE!!

Publisher, Frog God Games

PDfs will head out as soon as we sort the surveys

Publisher, Frog God Games

a bit o delay while we add herolab file to them


Alice Margatroid wrote:

Excellent, Matthew! :) I'm glad there's a solution that makes everyone happy. Frog Gods, feel free to do whatever you like with these maps!

Few notes first of all:

* I'm no professional map maker - just someone who followed a few tutorials over at the Cartographer's Guild. As such the quality/style between pretty much every map I make is pretty different and there are tonnes of areas where I could improve. (I'm learning new things every time I make one!) So I appreciate constructive criticism and feedback :)

* Secondly, these maps are most likely not at a big enough resolution to be useful for any kind of live play. I originally had all maps at 2x their current resolution but my computer couldn't handle it... :P They should be fine enough for virtual tabletops, however.

* Lastly, I consider these an artistic interpretation of the original maps, not an exact 1-to-1 correspondence. Sometimes things may be in slightly different places, rooms at slightly different sizes, etc. However I strived to make it as faithful to the original as possible!

So here's the maps! Players, please keep out!

** spoiler omitted **

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Keep them coming alice margatroid!

Grand Lodge

Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber

So I got a message from Kickstarter saying that the next CD and RA sub instalment was due yesterday. Mine have not shown on either Bytes Interactive or the Account a froggodgames.com, any one else have theirs appear?


Nothing yet, but I figure that it will show up in a few days.

Grand Lodge

Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber

Yeah annoying that, always best to under promise and over deliver.

Pathfinder Rules Conversion, Frog God Games

mach1.9pants wrote:
Yeah annoying that, always best to under promise and over deliver.

"Publish" means its finished. That doesn't mean its immediately available for everyone the second it's done.

We're still trying to make sure everyone has the correct files they are due. it's amazing how many people don't know what they pay for. Files should be loaded soon.


Looking forward to the newest enstallment Skeeter! Keep'em coming! I'm running my into adventure to Cyclopean Deeps tomorrow, excitted about getting my guys to the Deeps.


I just put my RA game on hold for awhile so I am in no hurry. Decided to double up on my Slumbering Tsar game. We will get back to it later, but need a break from it.

Grand Lodge

Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber
Skeeter Green wrote:
mach1.9pants wrote:
Yeah annoying that, always best to under promise and over deliver.

"Publish" means its finished. That doesn't mean its immediately available for everyone the second it's done.

We're still trying to make sure everyone has the correct files they are due. it's amazing how many people don't know what they pay for. Files should be loaded soon.

OK fair enough Skeeter, I am sorry for my mistake. But I bet I wasn't the only one who doesn't understand the exact technical terms for the publishing industry! Maybe next time a plain English "...and will be available for download in less than a week" or something would alleviate confusion.


Downloaded mine last night. As expected it came soon:) Looks pretty good so far.


brvheart wrote:
Downloaded mine last night. As expected it came soon:) Looks pretty good so far.

Downloaded what? Cyclopean Deeps 5? or Rappan Athuk 5?

Where did you download it from?
And were you emailed that it is available?

I have subscriptions to both but have had no notifications and I just logged into the www.froggodgames.org and don't see anything new in my downloads section.

Grand Lodge

Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber

They are in folders for me, labelled 1-6 for both. So you DL the whole lot at once tho 6 isn't in there yet.


mach1.9pants wrote:
They are in folders for me, labelled 1-6 for both. So you DL the whole lot at once tho 6 isn't in there yet.

How did you find out there are new files? An email?

Where are the files located? I checked my account on www.froggodgames.org, checked my downloads and nothing after 1-4 is there.
I also checked the old login pre-new-website and they are not there.

I should not have to go to Paizo boards to find out about this stuff!


RA 5. I did receive an email that they were ready. I presume you will get your email when yours are also.

Grand Lodge

Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber

I never received an email I just checked after brvheat mentioned they were up

From My Downloads on froggodgames.com/user/???/purchased-files

screeny of my downloads

Is that the site you are checking?

Dark Archive

Mine were not automatically added - I got an email from Mr. Webb with a download code for RA 1-6, added the RA sub then used the code which brought the price down to zero. So for some people it isn't automatic.

If you are missing files, send a support email from the FGG website with your used name, kickstarter name and what files/subscriptions you should have. They put all my pre-order and KS files on that site for me after I sent them an emailed list of what I was supposed to have.

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