The ninja class is prohibited from my game for a few reasons:
A) It's not a asian-themed adventure.
B) With no clan support, there's no one from whom to learn new abilities or class features.
C) The ninja class is flat-out superior to the Rogue class in virtually every respect and is a classic example of power creep.
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I think that is a very interesting idea. I can definitely see a bunch of the abilities being drawn from the various ports the pirates put into. I think the rigging ninja mentioned above could fit anywhere. I would be very interested to see how the GM handles the above ninja, specifically on how the development of the ninja grows. Also as an aside for Archanjel, why does it need to be Asian flavored to incorporate a ninja? I understand the actual historical basis behind the PRPG ninja, but why cant one exist in Golarion outside Tian Xia, the most obviously asian influenced continent? Beyond a bard and possibly a paladin, the ninja is one of the strongest options for the AP as far as I've seen.
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I personally like the idea of ninja's in this ap. goes back to the old school pirates vs ninjas debate. Ha ha
And I would argue the ninja is not better than the rouge. A rouge pirate archetype would definitely be better than a ninja here. It isn't all about combat.
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I personally like the idea of ninja's in this ap. goes back to the old school pirates vs ninjas debate. Ha ha
And I would argue the ninja is not better than the rouge. A rouge pirate archetype would definitely be better than a ninja here. It isn't all about combat.
Ninja vs. Pirate is old school?
I thought old school was Ultramagnetic MCs
My favourite pirates wear rouge, lots of rouge.
I think you'll have to re-fluff to make an Inner Sea pirate who is a ninja: it's all about stealth so perhaps a member of an oppressed minority (Chelaxian tiefling? Rahadoumi aasimar?) who sneaked through his days and eventually snuck away to find somewhere where the only thing that matters is his talents: a pirate ship!
Obviously, we need a party made up of a ninja, a pirate rogue archetype (or a character with the 3.5 Dread Pirate PrC), a necromancer or undead lord cleric, and a Mad scientist (alchemist), so as to duplicate the classes of Zombie ninja pirates, and then add a witch, a vampire, a faerie (possibly a fey bloodline sorceror) and a werewolf to match the expansion!
I am going to be running this AP for my group. We have a small group of just 3 people (myself, and 2 players) so I usually run 1-2 NPCs for each AP.
I plan on running an NPC Tengu Ninja. I feel the flavor will fit perfectly. They say a Tengu brings good luck on a ship, but not for the crew of the Wormwood!
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I support the idea of a ninja in the party, there might be one in our ranks once we get PCs created.
On a side note this AP will be the first time I play an adventure "as is" since the early '80s. I think that speaks well of the quality that Paizo is cranking out these days.
Of course I'm a Spelljammer DM who just grabbed Distant Worlds (Thank you, thank you, thank you Paizo!!) so when the AP ends around 15th level it will be off to sail the solar system!
I haven't been this excited about an adventure since The Lost Caverns of Tsojcanth!
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I have a ninja tabbed to play in one of the two Sk&Sh games I'll be running. His master is a Tian Xian expatriate who takes in wayward souls to groom into tools for the Will of Achaekek. Some pupils are simply rogues, information gatherers for the Red Mantis, others became assassins (PrC), and the best learn the art of the ninja. The proximity of Mediogalti and the potential for all kinds of subplots made this the best opportunity for me to allow a ninja in a game I GM...in fact the only time. Pirates and ninjas? 'ell ya!
The big Problem with the Ninja is, that it is a rogue only with better abilities.
I have a Ninja Sorc in my Kingkaer and belief me it's a pain in the ass...
vanish, 5ft step cast sneak scorching ray...
Some advice for ninjas (and other Tian Xians) in the Shackles:
Ushinawa Island was founded by a Minkaian samurai. It is essentially a shogunate - that is, ruled by a powerful military leader. The people here hate slavery. This could make for an interesting freedom-fighter ninja character, liberating slaves from less scrupulous Shackles residents. The capital city is Genzei.
Shenchu Bay was founded by Lung Wa sailors who yearned for freedom from the imperial dynasty back home. Unlike Unishawa, however, these pirates have slaves. Shenchu is ruled by a Council of Three, one of which happens to be a ninja. The capital city is Cho-Tzu.
Hate to split hairs, but the samurai of the Ushinawa Isles don't hate slavery so much as they hate someone who would allow himself to be enslaved. Hard to see them going on an anti-slavery crusade.
The big Problem with the Ninja is, that it is a rogue only with better abilities.
I have a Ninja Sorc in my Kingkaer and belief me it's a pain in the ass...
vanish, 5ft step cast sneak scorching ray...
Pretty much the whole point of the Ninja is to be a Rogue that's better.
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I am playing a ninja in this AP. he is a Maenad from dreamscared press psionics handbook. they are a naturally seafaring race. he is a lot of fun and has yet to prove over-powered.
I am playing him as a more historical ninja rather than stereotypical. he tries to blend in with the environment rather than the black pajamas type. ironically, he's one of the best pirates on the ship....
So instead of black pajamas you'll be going with the orange track suit?
>_>
Moving on...
I'm going to be DMing this AP next and one of the players is bringing in a Tibbit Ninja.