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Thanks ReckNBall. I bookmarked it and I will spend some time pouring over the site. I have had to put my alter ego aside for a while. I'm having too difficult of a time with some things trying to figure this out while also dealing with life is too much at once for me. I'm in a very dark place right now emotionally and trying with everything I have to stick around.

The Exchange

Cycling back and forth is normal. Beware of the Pink Fog. Don't let the end game screw up the journey. Don't let other people decide where you belong. The whole LGBT is a spectrum. One morning you'll wake up with the mindset of 99% female; the next day at the 50% shaking your head WTF was I thinking, it is just clothes we are all human yadda yadda. Followed by a week of maleness with nary a thought only for your female self to push back and demand HER time. That is just your inner turmoil. Read, educate, grow, find your blance.

Platitudes aside, Real Life(TM) demands you pay the bills and put food on table. Do what you must to survive.

Silver Crusade

I hope everyone is having a lovely Thanksgiving!


Don't overgorge yourselves on turkey... Ooops, too late :P


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Well, I apparently managed to create family drama so bad that I was able to come out to my dad and have it be completely ignored. Yay? :(
*sigh* Whole situation is bad. I really wish my family (specifically my dad, but to a lesser degree my siblings get roped in too) would stop accusing me of lying every time I open my mouth. I don't have a history of being untruthful. But it sure does make a convenient excuse for not dealing with stuff. (for an idea of how bad it can get, when I was in high school I once had bronchitis for a month before they could accept that I wasn't faking being sick.)While I have occasionally been desperate for attention it was more in the vein of , 'hey over here, I'm on fire, would you mind picking up that bucket of water and throwing it in this general direction', rather than 'I'm going to behave badly until you notice me'. Does it make me an awful person if I disown them? (I already know I can't, but it sure does sound tempting right now.)


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Sometimes you have to tell family, "You know what, you're being unreasonable and unfair. I don't need either of these things in my life" and stop talking to them. It sucks, but going without the drama can be a refreshing thing.


Good advice. Hopefully I can follow it. I have to see everyone in early January for my niece's christening. Not looking forward to that but I already promised my sister before all this other stuff happened. Presuming she still wants me there. But after that I think we all could use a nice long break from each other.

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Ahhh memories... Once, long ago, I ran an experient. Hypothesis: Say/do nothing and still be wrong or at fault. I interacted silently(except ie "Pass the food"), ate, dressed, let others speak for me, over me, above me. Did homework(or anything) in out-of-sight areas or off-site completely. Objectively observed that I was a catalyst and blame-magnet with my very presence. By disengaging, I was able to analyze dynamics to realize it was a cutthroat sharktank environment for externalized regrets and denial. This went a long way towards my emancipation and kept my sanity as I enjoyed my hithertofore unknown superpowers of instigation while maintaining Switzerland-like integrity of non-response.

YMMV.

PS I was able to remove myself completely via military. Best damn investment of my time, financial independence and education. I was beholden to not one of those people. No strings. Nada.
PPS After 10+ years of non-engagement, my father and I have resumed speaking/visiting. We avoid subjects and past.


I hope it all works out for you lynora. It's hard when family doesn't get along. I don't really get along well with my family. I went about 15 years without contacting them. It was hard at first but I managed. We now see each other once in a while and are very cordial. I am still close to my brother, but I had to disconnect from him as well for a while. I still will not speak with or see my mother. She isn't someone I would like if she wasn't a relative, there is no reason for that to change just because she gave birth to me. My step mother is a different story. We get along much better than we used to. I think it took some growing up on my part and some separation on hers.

I wish you the best. If you need someone to talk to, feel free to message me.


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In case anyone is wondering what's been going on, I've been trying OkCupid for a while now and have had zero responses. I've sent messages and had zero people respond. No one has initiated contact with me either. After a few months of that, I decided that I should just delete the profile. I have no idea where to go next.

On a more positive note, tonight I decided that I was going to do something a little different. I ordered a pizza and answered the door in a nightgown and pink slippers. The poor old Russian guy who answered was a little shocked. If he delivers next time, he's going to be really shocked. I plan on being dressed up completely.


Are you on any other dating sites?


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Sorry about the problems with the dating site, Bob. That sucks.

But it's good to see that there's still progress in other areas. :)


Freehold DM wrote:
Are you on any other dating sites?

I don't have the money for any pay sites and I've tried Plenty of Fish but found it a bit on the creepy side. I've asked people at various trans-sites but no one ever offers an answer. I'm wondering if I should keep the trans part out and bring that up later.

Silver Crusade

I know sometimes people have to try a few different dating sites to find one that works for them.


lynora wrote:

Sorry about the problems with the dating site, Bob. That sucks.

But it's good to see that there's still progress in other areas. :)

I'm really getting tired of being alone. The longer it goes on, the more I feel that it's fated to be that way.

I have some friends who want to take me out for a night on the town in an accepting area so maybe I will find some like-minded friends there. I just have to wait until after Christmas. I'm in the middle of moving and I don't have the time or money for going out right now.


Bob_Loblaw wrote:
lynora wrote:

Sorry about the problems with the dating site, Bob. That sucks.

But it's good to see that there's still progress in other areas. :)

I'm really getting tired of being alone. The longer it goes on, the more I feel that it's fated to be that way.

I have some friends who want to take me out for a night on the town in an accepting area so maybe I will find some like-minded friends there. I just have to wait until after Christmas. I'm in the middle of moving and I don't have the time or money for going out right now.

Well, good luck with the moving. That's pretty stressful all by itself.


Bob, you're not alone. I imagine that sounds a bit like I'm disconnected, but I really mean it. I hope you find that what you are missing, the feeling, emotion, intimacy, that you feel is not present, is just an illusion. The world around you is filled with people who, on the outside, apear to have all the things you think you might be missing, but I can tell you that many of them feel as alone as you feel. And just like you, many of them are not as alone as they feel.

But you are never alone. Not really. You have friends.

There is a Buddhist sage, his name, I believe, was Shantadiva, who said something to the effect of this, "The only misery in poverty is the state of being aware that there is something you want that you cannot have."

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On the subject of being "alone" or not... and this is just my experience to share, not saying this is right (or wrong) for anyone else.

In the past, I'd had bad luck and bad experiences with relationships. Some things went poorly because it was my fault -- I didn't speak up/assert my feelings strongly enough and early enough, usually, or sometimes I ended up avoiding what would have been a good relationship because I was caught up in a dysfunctional one (I understand I am likely not alone in this scenario). Other things were completely out of control; many many years ago one guy I was into even died of a brain tumor, but less extremely, other things just happened, people decided they weren't interested, I decided I wasn't interested, they were interested in someone else, had to suddenly move far away and the relationship wouldn't survive long distance, etc. One lesbian rejected me as soon as she found out I was bisexual---like went from hot to frigid in 3 seconds flat (that gave me a nice complex about asking women out for a long time). Although my favorite rejection was from a guy: "You're funny and smart, and I find that intimidating." Sorry, I'll try to be more boring and dumb?

I tried, especially during a very trying period where I was otherwise suffering from anxiety and some latent grief issues from when my mother had died a few years ago, to seek people out as best I could. I am very shy when it comes to relationships, and of course that was amplified by the anxiety, but I was trying very hard to reach out and meet people as best I could, to no avail.

I didn't try dating sites or anything, but I am extremely wary of those, especially as a woman, and don't think I could ever bring myself to use them even if I was tempted. And I do not have circumstances (apart from being bi, maybe) that make it too hard to find a potential partner; I can understand why classifieds are ideal for various situations, including Bob's; it's just not for me.

Finally, one day, I just said to myself, "you know, the more I try, the more miserable I become, and the more I get hard on myself for failing, and it just goes into a vicious cycle of self-hatred and self-pity -- and if it's that easy for me to get into self-hatred and self-pity, a girlfriend or boyfriend probably won't magically fix that. Hell, given the way I see most other relationships work, it'll probably guarantee I won't be able to keep one for long. So I'm going to stop looking, and I am going to focus on being the best person I can be, and enjoying time spent with my friends and doing the many hobbies I have. And if I meet someone, great, and all the more likely it will go well because I'll have a hell of a lot more self-respect."

Several years later, I am still single.

Several years later, I am very happy with my life. I could look anyone in the eye and say that loud and clear. (And what sources of unhappiness I do have are usually more to do with entirely different issues.)

Now, I did not have some magic turn around where upon my epiphany I was made extremely happy. I had to work on it. I STILL work on loving and respecting myself, it's sadly not in this society an easy thing we allow ourselves to do. I've been through a lot (including additional therapy to deal with my anxiety). I had to seek out happiness actively in other areas and not wait for it to happen to me. I had to learn to see joy in all that I do. But I am absolutely certain it is possible to be single and feel not-alone and feel fulfilled in life because I do.

Would I like to meet someone and have a relationship? Absolutely. Is my life incomplete or empty? No. Quite the opposite. And I truly hope that when I meet the right person, she or he will appreciate me all the more because I am, as a friend of mine once called me, a "self-contained universe" and we can enjoy each other as functional individuals. We can come together and be something more, but that does not mean I am "less" because I am on my own.

My only "unhappiness" that comes of being single is more of how society views single people. Being a single female in her mid-late 30s--the world tells me I don't exist, except maybe in quirky work-coms on TV, where being a woman, single and in your 30s is the most hilarious joke EVER, apparently. (But f&+% them. I am gonna make it after all. *throws hat*)

My friends used to lecture me about being single, like it is this horrible pariah state that I should feel ashamed of being in. When I object, they say, "But I just want you to be happy," usually within the same breath of a conversation where in they complain about their partner for one reason or another. "And what is it about me that suggests to you I am unhappy?" I have asked. They stutter and go, "Uh..." The only thing this results in is a fear not of being alone because I am not in a relationship, but a fear of being alone because my friends who are in couples will reject me for being single and not like them. I have expressed this fear just as I wrote that now to the friends who nag me, and they have ceased nagging me (or trying to set me up with boring, ugly chicks they meet at gaming events because they are single and gamers and therefore we MUST make a good couple on these reasons alone).

The only other complaint I have about being single is I desperately want to move into a larger place, but can't afford rent (or downpayment/closing/house purchasing costs) without splitting it with someone, and don't know enough other singletons who need a place to live and would be willing to share it with me. So that means either staying in my little apartment or seeking out a roommate, with all the hassle and potential awfulness that that can entail. But going up to someone and say, "Hi, can we date so I can have an apartment/house with room for an office?" really would probably not be an endearing pick-up line. But the housing market is really very unfriendly to your average middle of middle class or poorer single person. Everything assumes you have dual income (at least).

Neither of these things have to do directly with having a partner, but rather a social expectation issue and an issue of practical living with modern housing costs. I can deal with that.

Again, I look forward to the time I meet someone special. In the meantime, I enjoy my life for what it is and fill my time with lots of loving friends and family and lots of fun.

Everyone's gotta figure out what works for them. I just hope when anyone seeks out a relationship, they understand it will not magically fix their lives. It can add happiness to an already happy life but it can't make personal insecurities disappear. It's of course always great to have someone to confide in and talk to and support you through the rough times, but there is more than one avenue to finding that kind of support.

Now of course, if you're in a relationship that's great, that's awesome. It's a wonderful and unique thing to be appreciated. But we all as individuals are also, in a different way, wonderful and unique things to be appreciated, and I encourage all to recognize that in themselves.

I realize this ain't gonna really console anyone who's just feeling miserable about their state of relationships but I hope and pray anyone finds love within their own hearts as well as in the hearts of those around them.

And I feel like somewhere along this rambling nonsense, I lost the real point I was trying to make. Oh well. I leave you with this song.


Nah, you didn't lost it. At least I think that the point of your rambling was constant.


This is something I've been working with my doctor about. I don't feel connected to people. I feel very disconnected quite often. As for being alone, I know that I have friends but I have to be the one to seek them out. If I don't contact them to see if they want to do anything, they won't contact me at all. No email. No Facebook messages. No texts. No phone calls. Nothing. I'm not exaggerating. I haven't gamed in months because of some work issues. My group hasn't even contacted me to see when we're going to get some game time in or if we can do something else.

I really do feel alone. Sometimes I wonder if anyone would notice if I just moved away. Other than work, would anyone even know? I didn't speak to my family for years and no one even tried to contact me.

I try to be the best person I can. I have no idea what that really means but I try to do unto others as they want me to do unto them. I don't want to treat them the way I want to be treated. That doesn't make sense to me.

I don't even know how to advertise what I'm looking for or what I want. Maybe because this whole thing is still new to me and I'm still figuring it out.

Sorry if I sound negative. I'm just very stressed about a lot of things (work, moving, life, money, having to downsize, etc). On a good note, I ordered a pizza (that was bad) but I decided to answer the door in my nightgown and pink slippers. That's the first time I stood face to face with someone while I dressed up and they didn't know about it until it was too late. I think the old Russian guy was a little freaked out. I had to give him a good tip for keeping his cool. Poor guy probably sees a lot of things he never thought he'd see.


So... completely off-topic (apologies for derail).

I have a noon appointment to show off the couple-dozen dyed silk scarves that I've got done to the point of being (imo) saleable to a gentleman with a lot of connections with area galleries and artists tomorrow!

My dad came home from a DOT Xmas party with this guy's business card, having talked with him about my artistic endeavors... and I was able to wrap up several of the projects I had on hand today... so I called him and made an appointment to show him what I've got.

XD

Am moderately terrified, but excited, hopeful. If he can/will broker a deal with one of the shops in town (for wholesale or consignment, I'm not picky) this could advance the cycle of make stuff-sell stuff-buy more supplies to make stuff that I've been trying to achieve.

Wish me luck.

We now return you to your regularly-scheduled thread.

:)


Alitan for local government scarf-maker!

:D

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So... I let my dad know I'm moving out soon, and something needs to be done about the cats(I was staying at the house instead of going to the river camp with them, and it's been several months). Some friends of mine have agreed to let me stay with them, and terms of rent have already been established. Just don't know exactly when I'll go, since I need to talk to them about it.

I just feel like they're taking advantage of me, since as long as I stay there I'm the one feeding the cats(using my money). I've barely seen any of my family in months, and had to learn through my sister-in-law that the rest of the family has been talking about me behind my back, believing some bad things about me.

In unrelated news, I like that quilt's design, Samnell. Your mom did a good job.


Alitan, good luck with the scarves! :)


DB3, sorry you are having to deal with family drama. :(
Good luck with the moving and sorting out the family stuff.

Silver Crusade

Sounds like moving is the right thing to do, DB3.

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Well, it might help that a cat got into my room and proceeded to puke everywhere(my poor core book...), but I'd been thinking about accepting my friend's offer for a while now.

Silver Crusade

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I brought my boyfriend to the company Christmas party. He turned what could have been a lame corporate function into a genuinely good time. He even persuaded me to dance.

He is the best ever.

That is all.

Shadow Lodge

Not moving because my friends themselves have to move now. Joy. :/


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That sucks Db3. I hope you can figure something out soon.

On a different note, I'm starting to get more comfortable with the clothing. I've been just partially dressing up and interacting with people who come to my door and my neighbors. I'm starting talking about it more with a few people, just in normal conversation. It's making me feel much more comfortable. I haven't really left the house lately but that's because I'm busy packing so I can move by the end of the month. Next month, if all goes well, I'm going to go out with some friends. I was also invited to an LGBT friendly game night in Seattle. From my understanding, it's a ladies night of gaming and there will be some people like me there. Gaming is a comfort zone and I have a few lady gamers who want to go too so I will have company. I'm going to go if I can get things to line up right.

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Sounds like it'll be a good time, Bob!

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Bob (and any other locals), I just learned they also have a weekly queer boardgame night! Not sure about the demographics, but I marched with Queer Geek during Pride and met some great people there, so could be another thing to try when you're less busy. :-)

Sorry to hear about your housing woes, Db3!

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Judy Bauer wrote:
Sorry to hear about your housing woes, Db3!

No real worries about it right now, but thank you.


Judy Bauer wrote:

Bob (and any other locals), I just learned they also have a weekly queer boardgame night! Not sure about the demographics, but I marched with Queer Geek during Pride and met some great people there, so could be another thing to try when you're less busy. :-)

Sorry to hear about your housing woes, Db3!

I bookmarked it. I'm hoping that there are events that I am able to attend. I love my job but sometimes it interferes with my social life.


Drejk wrote:
Some people react to caffeine in this way. I used to get sleepy after coffee (which I drink rarely). Two weeks ago, when on a training I drank three cups of coffees without either result - I wasn't stimulated by I neither I become sleepy.

I was rereading randomly from this thread when I noticed my own post from half a year ago. Since that time I started to drink coffee regularly during Dark Heresy sessions (usually on Mondays, with some delays from time to time due to various circumstances, like busy evening from some of players, holidays, new year, etc.). It no longer makes me sleepy but still does nothing to stimulate me.


Previous Friday, on friend's birthday I participated for a time in political discussion with two friends who argued about the political implications of sexual education with one showing conservative liberal stance that parents should decide about sexual education and the other sharing my stance that sexual education should be independent of parents wishes because it's the parents fault that so many people here in Poland lack any basic knowledge about sexuality, sex life, medical aspects of sex and procreation or sometimes even hygiene...

Discussion also involved matters of marriage equality (one against the other more favorable with me taking the most progressive stance). Both of them placed the limits on adoption being against adoption by homosexual pairs (which I shared years ago but changed my stance since then).

The sad part is that discussion will never happen again or move further as one of those friends died unexpectedly just before Christmas.


Drejk, I'm so very sorry for your loss. Even those friends we don't see eye to eye with are still our friends and there is a place in our hearts for them.

Silver Crusade

I'm sorry to hear of that loss, Drejk.

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On a more positive note, I had a lovely Christmas with my boyfriend's family. He was nervous, as he had never brought a boyfriend to a family holiday celebration before, but everyone was fantastic all around. I think for years he had always been the one showing up for things like that alone, and everyone seemed genuinely happy that he had someone in his life.

I got to embarass him a little by abruptly putting him on the phone with my mom to wish her a Merry Christmas. Of course my mom loved it.

The biggest bummer is that I had to work the 24th and 26th. Oh well.


Another sitting in pub and another discussion about marriage equality...

This time conservative fellow expressed views that while he agrees that homosexual pairs should get the same legal rights and obligations they should not be allowed to marry. We argued a bit which lead to rather ridiculous conclusion on his part that homosexuals are trying to corrupt "our" (i.e. heterosexual) sanctity of marriage... Duh. Otherwise he is quite intelligent guy *roll eyes*

At least now I honed a bit an argument for equality of marriage.

For:
- homosexual couples will be able to accept the same rights and obligations as heterosexual couples

Against:
- some folks will have stop keeping to their delusions... oh, wait, that's for as well!

Silver Crusade

I hope you guys don't mind a straight guy's POV on something...

Here in Britain there are moves afoot to allow same sex marriages in churches, but churches would be allowed to 'opt out' (?)

One of the arguments put forward by the churches against same sex marriage is that 'it would destroy the sanctity of marriage!'

I can imagine a man and a woman who've been happily married for fifty years (I have a good imagination). They may very well consider their marriage to be sacred. What I cannot imagine is how the sanctity of their marriage would be affected in the slightest by a same sex marriage somewhere on the other side of the country!

Britain is a much more secular country than America (or Poland; sorry for your loss, Drejk). Can anyone with a more religious mindset explain to me how the marriage of some people you don't know is anyone else's business?


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I hope you guys don't mind a straight guy's POV on something...

You are not alone here, some of us who post in this thread are just sympathetic to LGBTQ-and-some-other-randomly-added-letters community.

Malachi Silverclaw wrote:
Britain is a much more secular country than America (or Poland; sorry for your loss, Drejk). Can anyone with a more religious mindset explain to me how the marriage of some people you don't know is anyone else's business?

I can't explain. It's mind-boggling to me as well and it's one of the questions I ask to opponents of marriage.

I can only guess that the problem with showing others that their way is not the only way. Some folks seems to unable to accept that different can be equally good, they are only capable of comprehending only single answer to each question and simply can't understand other possibilities as equally acceptable. This reaches beyond marriage equality, regretfully is probably one of the main cause of problems in the world.


Malachi Silverclaw wrote:

I hope you guys don't mind a straight guy's POV on something...

Here in Britain there are moves afoot to allow same sex marriages in churches, but churches would be allowed to 'opt out' (?)

One of the arguments put forward by the churches against same sex marriage is that 'it would destroy the sanctity of marriage!'

I can imagine a man and a woman who've been happily married for fifty years (I have a good imagination). They may very well consider their marriage to be sacred. What I cannot imagine is how the sanctity of their marriage would be affected in the slightest by a same sex marriage somewhere on the other side of the country!

Britain is a much more secular country than America (or Poland; sorry for your loss, Drejk). Can anyone with a more religious mindset explain to me how the marriage of some people you don't know is anyone else's business?

I am not religious, but some people definitely value things more for knowing that others are denied them. In American history, a section of the nation (the same section now most firmly against marriage equality) declared their freedom enhanced tremendously by the fact that four million black people had none. They could go out every day and see just how unfree black people were and have the satisfying experience of not being in the same situation. What's more, they had a measure of at least indirect control over those unfree others which they would lose with equality. That power, whether political, cultural, or economic, is not easily shared, let alone yielded.


From a secular, purely agnostic point of view: given the number of serious and committed relationships in which I've been... which turned out horribly wrong, and would have resulted in divorces if I'd been able to marry somebody... why on earth would I want to let the lawyers into my lovelife?

Just sayin'.


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Malachi Silverclaw wrote:

I hope you guys don't mind a straight guy's POV on something...

Here in Britain there are moves afoot to allow same sex marriages in churches, but churches would be allowed to 'opt out' (?)

One of the arguments put forward by the churches against same sex marriage is that 'it would destroy the sanctity of marriage!'

I can imagine a man and a woman who've been happily married for fifty years (I have a good imagination). They may very well consider their marriage to be sacred. What I cannot imagine is how the sanctity of their marriage would be affected in the slightest by a same sex marriage somewhere on the other side of the country!

Britain is a much more secular country than America (or Poland; sorry for your loss, Drejk). Can anyone with a more religious mindset explain to me how the marriage of some people you don't know is anyone else's business?

My personal opinion on the whole thing is very simple:

1) Two consenting adults who are not close relatives (however the state already defines that is fine with me) can marry.
2) Churches are not obligated to perform ceremonies against their faith.
3) The state is not allowed to deny same sex couples a marriage certificate unless they would be denied as opposite sex couples

It's rather simple. The best part about it is that if someone doesn't want to get gay married, they don't have to!

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Malachi Silverclaw wrote:

I hope you guys don't mind a straight guy's POV on something...

Here in Britain there are moves afoot to allow same sex marriages in churches, but churches would be allowed to 'opt out' (?)

IIRC, that's how the law is going to be here in Maryland. Same sex couples can legally marry, but the law does not force individual churches to perform same sex marriages. Which is fine by me--I imagine a same sex couple would not want to go to a church that doesn't allow them to marry anyway, and the law forcing a church to perform a ceremony it doesn't want to gets into freedom of religion grey areas. Same sex couples can get civil unions or married in churches that do marry same sex couples, the latter of which are growing in number.

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One of the arguments put forward by the churches against same sex marriage is that 'it would destroy the sanctity of marriage!'

I can imagine a man and a woman who've been happily married for fifty years (I have a good imagination). They may very well consider their marriage to be sacred. What I cannot imagine is how the sanctity of their marriage would be affected in the slightest by a same sex marriage somewhere on the other side of the country!

Britain is a much more secular country than America (or Poland; sorry for your loss, Drejk). Can anyone with a more religious mindset explain to me how the marriage of some people you don't know is anyone else's business?

I don't believe personally these things (the religious community I belong to has been marrying same sex couples for a long time--it just hasn't been legally acknowledged).

And I really couldn't tell you. The Bible actually says extremely little on the matter of marriage. It in fact also says extremely little on the matter of homosexuality, beyond a couple condemnations of the specific act of sodomy in the Old Testament, one of which is in the same part of the Bible that prohibits eating certain kinds of foods and requires a sacrifice of birds to handle curing certain diseases and requires menstruating women to sequester themselves, so...

It's more about masking what is in fact a secular social more, one that is growing increasingly outdated, in the guise of a religious law, because some people are desperate to find an argument against it beyond the undocumented ideas in their own head.

I honestly wish I understood their point of view better myself. Especially since at least in the US, the same people who want to dictate who marries whom are the same people who argue AGAINST other governmental laws which regulate our personal lives (usually safety and health measures such as the wearing of seat belts or the banning of smoking in public places).


DQ wrote:

and requires menstruating women to sequester themselves, so...

WISDOM!!!

j/k

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Kryzbyn wrote:
DQ wrote:

and requires menstruating women to sequester themselves, so...

WISDOM!!!

j/k

Because they were considered "unclean," not because of the mild serotonin dip many women experience pre-menstrually.

Also, the Bible predates worldwide knowledge of chocolate.


"I don't trust anyone who bleeds for five days and does not die..."


DeathQuaker wrote:
Kryzbyn wrote:
DQ wrote:

and requires menstruating women to sequester themselves, so...

WISDOM!!!

j/k

Because they were considered "unclean," not because of the mild serotonin dip many women experience pre-menstrually.

Also, the Bible predates worldwide knowledge of chocolate.

God really should have told us about that chocolate thing sooner.

That said, I grew up raised by a single mother who hated(and still hates!) chocolate, so that wouldn't have saved me from any undue stress...

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