Cory Stafford 29 |
A good friend of mine told me that 10% of the world is completely and utterly heterosexual. 10% is completely and utterly homosexual. The other 80% is bisexual to some degree, it's just a matter of whether or not you act on it. With this definition, men who engage in threesomes or foursomes or orgies could be considered bisexual, whereas several men I know would be considered heterosexual, since they can only ever really copulate with one or multiple women present.
All of the surveys for sexuality for the past 50 years have put the numbers at 96% heterosexual, 1-2% homosexual, and about 0.6% bisexual. Trans people don't really register on this, but I have seen about 0.3% of the population for them quoted several times. Even many gay rights activists that have used a 10-20% of the population being homosexual have admitted that those numbers were greatly exaggerated.
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Nepherti wrote:A good friend of mine told me that 10% of the world is completely and utterly heterosexual. 10% is completely and utterly homosexual. The other 80% is bisexual to some degree, it's just a matter of whether or not you act on it. With this definition, men who engage in threesomes or foursomes or orgies could be considered bisexual, whereas several men I know would be considered heterosexual, since they can only ever really copulate with one or multiple women present.All of the surveys for sexuality for the past 50 years have put the numbers at 96% heterosexual, 1-2% homosexual, and about 0.6% bisexual. Trans people don't really register on this, but I have seen about 0.3% of the population for them quoted several times. Even many gay rights activists that have used a 10-20% of the population being homosexual have admitted that those numbers were greatly exaggerated.
Yeah, but who's writing those surveys? Who's taking them? Who's defining what "sexuality" is?
"Sexuality" as a concept is a fairly recent invention in human history and we shouldn't draw too many conclusions from those kinds of studies without interrogating the assumptions they're based on.
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Big legal news:
The Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals, which covers Illinois, Indiana and Wisconsin, ruled today that sexual orientation is protected under Title VII of the 1964 Civil Rights Act.
The case involves a woman named Kimberly Hively who was in court fighting the Ivy Tech Community College of Indiana against discriminatory hiring practices. Basically, from what I understand, back in 2009, she was spotted kissing a woman in a parking lot, so the college wouldn't hire her.
From the Court's ruling:
Our panel described the line between a gender nonconformity claim and one based on sexual orientation as gossamer-thin; we conclude that it does not exist at all. Hively's claim is no different from the claims brought by women who were rejected for jobs in traditionally male work-places, such as fire departments, construction, and policing. The employers in those cases were policing the boundaries of what jobs or behaviors they found acceptable for a woman (or in some cases, for a man).
This covers workplace discrimination against gay, lesbian and bi people. It's sexual orientation, so trans people aren't included in the ruling. However, Joshua Block, an ACLU lawyer, points out:
Every single anti-trans opinion (and brief) prominently relies on the 1984 Ulane decision that CA7 just overruled.
There is a twitter thread breakdown of the ruling here, by lawyer Greg Lipper.
So, this still has to get before the Supreme Court at some point, from what I understand, but this is a good step in the right direction.
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I'm actually hopefully optimistic about the courts for the simple reason that certain individual in power keeps saying they're 'full of *expletive*'.
It doesn't matter if the judge/justice in question provides the sort of rulings other justices/judges like or not, it's the attempt at undermining the faith in the judicial system that may be the unlikely uniter in the coming years.
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Nepherti wrote:A good friend of mine told me that 10% of the world is completely and utterly heterosexual. 10% is completely and utterly homosexual. The other 80% is bisexual to some degree, it's just a matter of whether or not you act on it. With this definition, men who engage in threesomes or foursomes or orgies could be considered bisexual, whereas several men I know would be considered heterosexual, since they can only ever really copulate with one or multiple women present.All of the surveys for sexuality for the past 50 years have put the numbers at 96% heterosexual, 1-2% homosexual, and about 0.6% bisexual. Trans people don't really register on this, but I have seen about 0.3% of the population for them quoted several times. Even many gay rights activists that have used a 10-20% of the population being homosexual have admitted that those numbers were greatly exaggerated.
I don't think anybody above thought the quote you quoted believeD that to be scientific...I mean to me it sounded like a belief.
I mean personally I don't think we can trust in survey about sexuality or gender till as mechapoet said it is better defined...and also we get rid of most of the hate and ignorance towards LGBT people so people can answer honesty.
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Let's just hope that the Supreme Court isn't utterly poisoned by then. :/
If it's just Gorsuch, then we're sort of back to where we were with Scalia, and we got marriage equality while Scalia was on the bench. So, not as sure a thing as it would have been with Garland, but still well possible.
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Nepherti wrote:A good friend of mine told me that 10% of the world is completely and utterly heterosexual. 10% is completely and utterly homosexual. The other 80% is bisexual to some degree, it's just a matter of whether or not you act on it. With this definition, men who engage in threesomes or foursomes or orgies could be considered bisexual, whereas several men I know would be considered heterosexual, since they can only ever really copulate with one or multiple women present.All of the surveys for sexuality for the past 50 years have put the numbers at 96% heterosexual, 1-2% homosexual, and about 0.6% bisexual. Trans people don't really register on this, but I have seen about 0.3% of the population for them quoted several times. Even many gay rights activists that have used a 10-20% of the population being homosexual have admitted that those numbers were greatly exaggerated.
The latest number I've seen from for the transgender population the Williams Institute, which is I think where the 0.3% originally came from, is now at about 0.6% of adults, or 1.4 million. The number would obviously go up if you add in kids and teens, but I'm not sure how the percentage would shift.
That would put as at about 1 out of every 167 adults, which feels about right to me.
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Phantom of Truth wrote:Let's just hope that the Supreme Court isn't utterly poisoned by then. :/If it's just Gorsuch, then we're sort of back to where we were with Scalia, and we got marriage equality while Scalia was on the bench. So, not as sure a thing as it would have been with Garland, but still well possible.
Indeed. I'm just indescribably bitter about that entire situation.
What worries me is the possibility of another loss, from the left this time.
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Here's some great news about keeping your job if you are gay or perceived as gay.
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Nepherti wrote:A good friend of mine told me that 10% of the world is completely and utterly heterosexual. 10% is completely and utterly homosexual. The other 80% is bisexual to some degree, it's just a matter of whether or not you act on it. With this definition, men who engage in threesomes or foursomes or orgies could be considered bisexual, whereas several men I know would be considered heterosexual, since they can only ever really copulate with one or multiple women present.All of the surveys for sexuality for the past 50 years have put the numbers at 96% heterosexual, 1-2% homosexual, and about 0.6% bisexual. Trans people don't really register on this, but I have seen about 0.3% of the population for them quoted several times. Even many gay rights activists that have used a 10-20% of the population being homosexual have admitted that those numbers were greatly exaggerated.
I work in this field. By the time the numbers get to you, they are badly out of date.
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Cory Stafford 29 wrote:I work in this field. By the time the numbers get to you, they are badly out of date.Nepherti wrote:A good friend of mine told me that 10% of the world is completely and utterly heterosexual. 10% is completely and utterly homosexual. The other 80% is bisexual to some degree, it's just a matter of whether or not you act on it. With this definition, men who engage in threesomes or foursomes or orgies could be considered bisexual, whereas several men I know would be considered heterosexual, since they can only ever really copulate with one or multiple women present.All of the surveys for sexuality for the past 50 years have put the numbers at 96% heterosexual, 1-2% homosexual, and about 0.6% bisexual. Trans people don't really register on this, but I have seen about 0.3% of the population for them quoted several times. Even many gay rights activists that have used a 10-20% of the population being homosexual have admitted that those numbers were greatly exaggerated.
As out of date as that post Cory dug up to reply to?
Seriously, how fast are they changing?
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It's Thursday, so here's a Lion and a Dachshund being buddies :3
*channels positive feelings and offers hugs to anyone and everyone that wnats or needs some*
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The Usual Suspect wrote:Made me think of thisApproximately 99% of the US population are people. Some fraction of the remaining 1% are politicians.
I don't know which is worse- the hideousness of those human suits or the utter vileness lurking underneath.
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Freehold DM wrote:Cory Stafford 29 wrote:I work in this field. By the time the numbers get to you, they are badly out of date.Nepherti wrote:A good friend of mine told me that 10% of the world is completely and utterly heterosexual. 10% is completely and utterly homosexual. The other 80% is bisexual to some degree, it's just a matter of whether or not you act on it. With this definition, men who engage in threesomes or foursomes or orgies could be considered bisexual, whereas several men I know would be considered heterosexual, since they can only ever really copulate with one or multiple women present.All of the surveys for sexuality for the past 50 years have put the numbers at 96% heterosexual, 1-2% homosexual, and about 0.6% bisexual. Trans people don't really register on this, but I have seen about 0.3% of the population for them quoted several times. Even many gay rights activists that have used a 10-20% of the population being homosexual have admitted that those numbers were greatly exaggerated.As out of date as that post Cory dug up to reply to?
Seriously, how fast are they changing?
very.
Muddying the waters is that people are quick to quote studies but slow to note the year that the studies came out.
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It's Thursday, so here's a Lion and a Dachshund being buddies :3
*channels positive feelings and offers hugs to anyone and everyone that wnats or needs some*
Awww! :)
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Rysky wrote:Awww! :)It's Thursday, so here's a Lion and a Dachshund being buddies :3
*channels positive feelings and offers hugs to anyone and everyone that wnats or needs some*
"Dogs and (Big) cats living together. Mass Hysteria." :)
Wei Ji the Learner |
*sticks hand into fire to try and burn away the icky darkness surrounding him at the moment, because...*
I'm thinking dark things and it's not the kind of thing I really want to dwell on or even share because in comparison to other folks on this thread it's inconsequential and nearly trivial.
*hugs*
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because...*
Someone in pain is in *pain*. If it helps you cope with pain to say, "I feel better because I see how much worse life could be", then OK.
But if making comparisons only makes you feel worse, then find some other way to mitigate your pain.
"I hurt" is not something that you measure on a scale. If you hurt, we're here to hug and distract and provide love to help you get through to the less-hurtful side.
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*sticks hand into fire to try and burn away the icky darkness surrounding him at the moment, because...*** spoiler omitted **y
*hugs*
*hugs*
Pain is pain...while what I am going through may seem to be bigger and more important than what you are going through...I does not mean the pain you feel is any less real...or that I can not take a small break from my stuff to give you a hug, a ear to listen to you, or a shoulder to cry on.
Heck it might be nice change of pace to help someone a inconsequential problem. ;)
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*accepts hugs and positivity, but fears being the singularity that leaves nothing good in its wake*
...just a general feeling of malaise, that *nothing* I've been doing is 'right', and if one isn't 'right' on something even a smidgen of the time, particularly on given forums.
I suppose I should remember that forums can distill not only vitriol, but also hope.
Thank you.
Selene Spires |
*accepts hugs and positivity, but fears being the singularity that leaves nothing good in its wake*...just a general feeling of malaise, that *nothing* I've been doing is 'right', and if one isn't 'right' on something even a smidgen of the time, particularly on given forums.
I suppose I should remember that forums can distill not only vitriol, but also hope.
Thank you.
Oh...that is really inconsequential. ;)
Seriously though I feel like that most of the time...though alot less lately. It is like every time I try to do something it always turns out wrong. I just try your keep positive.
Wei Ji the Learner |
*channels the excessive heat from his room to the thread, because sharing is caring*
Thank you folks... and... Friday.. what was I doing... oh, right, trying to update my characters for the convention this weekend? ...prepping the table for tomorrow?
...don't get older and on the Internet...
*coughs*
Have a great day and do awesome things.
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Freehold DM wrote:Cory Stafford 29 wrote:I work in this field. By the time the numbers get to you, they are badly out of date.Nepherti wrote:A good friend of mine told me that 10% of the world is completely and utterly heterosexual. 10% is completely and utterly homosexual. The other 80% is bisexual to some degree, it's just a matter of whether or not you act on it. With this definition, men who engage in threesomes or foursomes or orgies could be considered bisexual, whereas several men I know would be considered heterosexual, since they can only ever really copulate with one or multiple women present.All of the surveys for sexuality for the past 50 years have put the numbers at 96% heterosexual, 1-2% homosexual, and about 0.6% bisexual. Trans people don't really register on this, but I have seen about 0.3% of the population for them quoted several times. Even many gay rights activists that have used a 10-20% of the population being homosexual have admitted that those numbers were greatly exaggerated.As out of date as that post Cory dug up to reply to?
Seriously, how fast are they changing?
Cory's statement about "all of the surveys" is inaccurate.
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thejeff wrote:Cory's statement about "all of the surveys" is inaccurate.Freehold DM wrote:Cory Stafford 29 wrote:I work in this field. By the time the numbers get to you, they are badly out of date.Nepherti wrote:A good friend of mine told me that 10% of the world is completely and utterly heterosexual. 10% is completely and utterly homosexual. The other 80% is bisexual to some degree, it's just a matter of whether or not you act on it. With this definition, men who engage in threesomes or foursomes or orgies could be considered bisexual, whereas several men I know would be considered heterosexual, since they can only ever really copulate with one or multiple women present.All of the surveys for sexuality for the past 50 years have put the numbers at 96% heterosexual, 1-2% homosexual, and about 0.6% bisexual. Trans people don't really register on this, but I have seen about 0.3% of the population for them quoted several times. Even many gay rights activists that have used a 10-20% of the population being homosexual have admitted that those numbers were greatly exaggerated.As out of date as that post Cory dug up to reply to?
Seriously, how fast are they changing?
Was this latter one published in a peer reviewed source? It appears to be a survey with a self-selected population, rather than having controls to avoid sample bias.
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