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Good for those that protested. These AFD thugs sound just like another bunch Neo-N**I idiots.Unfortunatly, they are - unfortunatly they managed to get almost 25% of the votes in one of our federal states :-(Well, I know the type. There are hundreds of groups of similar idiots here in the States. Sometimes, I wish that there was an alternate universe where we could send all these idiots, where they could act out all of their apocalyptic fantasies and leave the rest of us out of it.
I haven't told you this, but when I was in the Army, I was posted at Bad Kissingen, in Bavaria.
It is just a bit disheartening. I grew up in a country where pretty much everybody but a very fringe group seemed to agree that the NS regime was horrible and the Neo-Nazis were Scumbags. Now they are working their back into the heart of our society.
When I was 17, I was beaten to a pulp by a group of Nazi skinheads, probably because my hair was too long or because I was seen hanging around with punks. Recently, when I told somebody about that during a political discussion to emphasize my dislike of ultra right wing groups, he seriously asked me if I was sure they were Nazis, because that behavior was unusual for them. I was speechless.
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*offering warmth and comort for hugs and converstion and a bright light against dark thoughts*
It is just a bit disheartening. I grew up in a country where pretty much everybody but a very fringe group seemed to agree that the NS regime was horrible and the Neo-Nazis were Scumbags. Now they are working their back into the heart of our society.Good for those that protested. These AFD thugs sound just like another bunch Neo-N**I idiots.Unfortunatly, they are - unfortunatly they managed to get almost 25% of the votes in one of our federal states :-(Well, I know the type. There are hundreds of groups of similar idiots here in the States. Sometimes, I wish that there was an alternate universe where we could send all these idiots, where they could act out all of their apocalyptic fantasies and leave the rest of us out of it.
I haven't told you this, but when I was in the Army, I was posted at Bad Kissingen, in Bavaria.
If you think its dumb, what will you say about Neo-Nazis groups growing in the very country they tried to erase, joined by great-grandkids of people they enslaved?
*sigh*
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It is just a bit disheartening. I grew up in a country where pretty much everybody but a very fringe group seemed to agree that the NS regime was horrible and the Neo-Nazis were Scumbags. Now they are working their back into the heart of our society.Good for those that protested. These AFD thugs sound just like another bunch Neo-N**I idiots.Unfortunatly, they are - unfortunatly they managed to get almost 25% of the votes in one of our federal states :-(Well, I know the type. There are hundreds of groups of similar idiots here in the States. Sometimes, I wish that there was an alternate universe where we could send all these idiots, where they could act out all of their apocalyptic fantasies and leave the rest of us out of it.
I haven't told you this, but when I was in the Army, I was posted at Bad Kissingen, in Bavaria.
If you think its dumb, what will you say about Neo-Nazis groups growing in the very country they tried to erase, joined by great-grandkids of people they enslaved?
*sigh*
*sigh* indeed :-(
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* big bear hugs to everyone *
Time to get the Hug Brigade running full force.
Joyous belated birthsaversery, Ithsay!
Please don't listen to FHDM. He's not talking sense.Missed me being stuck in a foot-high snow drift trying to get to work. I'm so over winter...*takes assorted hugs*send your snow to me
is okay, CH, we can get some snow over your way too.. I won't hog it all.
HAPPY BIRTHDAY ITHSAY
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There are hundreds of groups of similar idiots here in the States. Sometimes, I wish that there was an alternate universe where we could send all these idiots, where they could act out all of their apocalyptic fantasies and leave the rest of us out of it.
They already live in an alternate universe.
Unfortunately, it physically overlaps with our own.
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Well, then. We must find the portal they're coming through and use my *patent pending* Hyperdimensional Quantum Stabilizer!There are hundreds of groups of similar idiots here in the States. Sometimes, I wish that there was an alternate universe where we could send all these idiots, where they could act out all of their apocalyptic fantasies and leave the rest of us out of it.They already live in an alternate universe.
Unfortunately, it physically overlaps with our own.
So you won't be needing my Illudium Pu-36 Explosive Space Modulator?
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People were worried about Pence when it comes to LGBT rights. Well, looks like the first bit of major damage he has done was for the education system... he was the tie-breaker in confirming Betsy DeVos as education secretary. He doesn't have to be president to cause damage. Ugh. That's not going to bode well for LGBT students.
Wonderful...................
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I personally find it interesting that the Secretary for Education isn't an educator. Is our Republic turning into a Plutocracy ( Rule by the wealthy )?
She'd also count for a Theocracy as well.
Which may explain why she's so concerned about protecting it from grizzlies.
I live in Montana... Grizzly Country.. and tend to be and pro-guns-in-school... and even I thought that was the stupidest response around.
(in "best", which is really bad, impression of William Shatner as Captain Kirk)
Must... resist... urge to say ... what I feel... they are using The Constitution... and Bill of Rights... for.
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It would seem so. So much for the separation of Church and State. Well, at least nobody's explicitly stating that they're going to feed The Constitution into a paper shredder, yet.I personally find it interesting that the Secretary for Education isn't an educator. Is our Republic turning into a Plutocracy ( Rule by the wealthy )?She'd also count for a Theocracy as well.
They're not going to announce that. No one announces that sort of thing, at least until they've so brutalized the populace's perceptions that the populace can no longer recognize what they're doing.
Is it poop related?
(in "best", which is really bad, impression of William Shatner as Captain Kirk)
Must... resist... urge to say ... what I feel... they are using The Constitution... and Bill of Rights... for.
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thanks to all for the birthday wishes... so far all the old organs still working away.
:)
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It would seem so. So much for the separation of Church and State. Well, at least nobody's explicitly stating that they're going to feed The Constitution into a paper shredder, yet.The Separation of Church and State is not in the Constitution. The closest the latter has is the Establishment Clause in the First Amendment, which states "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof."
Thomas Jefferson mentioned that there should be a wall between church and state in a letter to the Danbury Baptists. This has no Constitutional bearing, however, except as occasionally echoed in certain court cases. There are plenty of examples when courts happily ignored this not-a-rule as well, however (Lynch v. Donnelly, 1984; Committee for Public Education v. Nyquist, 1973).
No, but what there is is a metric crapton of SCOTUS opinions adding bricks to that wall. It's not the high wall it used to be, but most precedent for separation still stands.
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*blink*
Jurisprudence is, you know, the way the Constitution is enacted?
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Okay, Jessica, Generic Villain: This is subject—however fascinating—hugely off-topic and not in the spirit of this thread, and undermines the sense of support and reassurance this thread is largely built around. At this point, if you want to continue the discussion, please take it to a new thread.
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Sorry, it was my fault.
Okay, Jessica, Generic Villain: This is subject—however fascinating—hugely off-topic and not in the spirit of this thread, and undermines the sense of support and reassurance this thread is largely built around. At this point, if you want to continue the discussion, please take it to a new thread.
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*Offering a bright and comfortably warm place for hugs and conversation*
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* joins in the hug brigade *
* sees The Usual Suspect needs one *
* gives The Usual Suspect a big bear hug *
Anyone else need a bear hug? I've got lots to give.
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Thank you Rysky, cause I need lots.
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Et encore plein de hugs :-)
This also helps me remember the light, so I wish to share it with all here :
Sometimes in our lives
We all have pain, we all have sorrow.
But if we are wise,
We know that there's always tomorrow.
Lean on me when you're not strong
I'll be your friend, I'll help you carry on
For it won't be long
'Til I'm gonna need somebody to lean on.
Here in Montana if something tries to give you a bear hug, you use bear spray. ;)
* joins in the hug brigade *
* sees The Usual Suspect needs one *
* gives The Usual Suspect a big bear hug *
Anyone else need a bear hug? I've got lots to give.
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Okay, Jessica, Generic Villain: This is subject—however fascinating—hugely off-topic and not in the spirit of this thread, and undermines the sense of support and reassurance this thread is largely built around. At this point, if you want to continue the discussion, please take it to a new thread.Since I was a part of the discussion, I also apologize. After I spent years defending our country, and begin to see things fall apart, well, it frightens me. Talking is the only way I know how to deal with it. But I don't know how much good it does, since I feel that nobody listens. Anyway, I'm sorry for earlier.
No one really needs to apologize. There aren't any hurt feelings. We just try to keep the theme of this thread supportive and focused on queer issues. There's talk about politics lately, specifically because queer people have been turned into a political hot-potato lately, but the goal is mutual protection and support. Debating pure law is cool, but belongs elsewhere.
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I want to report some wonderful news:
Last night, after 20 years of trying the Pride Center in Jackson Michigan prevailed in convincing the city council to add 'sexual orientation' to the Human Rights ordinance.
In doing all their homework and their work on this, they managed to flip a council member who had voted no every time this issue came up in all 20 of his years on council (including at first reading two weeks ago), to a 'yes' last night, with the final vote at 5-2 in favor. (it's been defeated several times in the last 20 years with a 3-4 vote on the final reading).
Here are some pictures of the event. The most amazing 2 minutes of public hearing time were the pastor who laid a curse on council that would go into effect if they passed the ordinance.
81 year old man performs rap during his 2 minute public speaking slot
Rysky would have loved it at the end: here are lots and lots of pictures of all the hugs being given at 12:30 in the morning. You can see me in one of them.
(The supporters were using ASL signs for 'applause' as a way to force the police to only interact with the rowdy 'against' crowd. The only 'crowd control' measures were used against them, not the near silent 'for' crowd.
And I must say it was a very effective technique, because every time someone spoke in favor, there was a forest of hands and arms waving, which was much more impressive than applause. Council could literally see the support)
Love Wins
I personally find it interesting that the Secretary for Education isn't an educator. Is our Republic turning into a Plutocracy ( Rule by the wealthy )?
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