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Gives rousing speech to Snownappers, displays power of fully operational snowstation

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Freehold DM wrote:
Gives rousing speech to Snownappers, displays power of fully operational snowstation

Yeah, we don't need space nazis help with this.


Rysky wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Gives rousing speech to Snownappers, displays power of fully operational snowstation
Yeah, we don't need space nazis help with this.

>_>

<_<

Too much?

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yeah...

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Rysky wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Gives rousing speech to Snownappers, displays power of fully operational snowstation
Yeah, we don't need space nazis help with this.

Those are just space fascists...these are space nazis.

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feytharn wrote:
Rysky wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Gives rousing speech to Snownappers, displays power of fully operational snowstation
Yeah, we don't need space nazis help with this.
Those are just space fascists...these are space nazis.

Semantics, kill em both.

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Rysky wrote:
feytharn wrote:
Rysky wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Gives rousing speech to Snownappers, displays power of fully operational snowstation
Yeah, we don't need space nazis help with this.
Those are just space fascists...these are space nazis.
Semantics, kill em both.

Agreed...I just love semantics ;-)...and I wanted to link to that trailer...again...so gloriously stupid...

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For anyone in the Seattle area or who's visiting for PaizoCon, I want to plug Outsider Comics, a new comics store in Fremont that's super welcoming to women, queer folk, and other marginalized people. My wife subscribes to Princeless through them, and says they're super helpful to people like her who are just getting into comics... and other friends report they're also very good at introducing even addicts to things they didn't know they urgently needed. :P Sounds like the store has periodic events, too (a friend is already in talks with them about cross-promotions for a queer romance writers' conference she runs), so we're hoping to check that out soon!

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Judy Bauer wrote:
For anyone in the Seattle area or who's visiting for PaizoCon, I want to plug Outsider Comics, a new comics store in Fremont that's super welcoming to women, queer folk, and other marginalized people. My wife subscribes to Princeless through them, and says they're super helpful to people like her who are just getting into comics... and other friends report they're also very good at introducing even addicts to things they didn't know they urgently needed. :P Sounds like the store has periodic events, too (a friend is already in talks with them about cross-promotions for a queer romance writers' conference she runs), so we're hoping to check that out soon!

Sounds great, even though I probably won't get near Seattle for the time being.

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I'm furious.

Despite knowing that it would just enrage me, I sat through a YouTube ad trailer for M. Night Shyamalan's new movie coming out called Split. Its premise and execution are clearly ableist (specifically regarding peeps with dissociative identity disorder) and transmisogynistic.

Premise summary as far as I can tell from the trailer under spoiler so you can avoid reading this garbage:
Here's the premise: a horror movie in which a person the movie no doubt labels a man has a "split personality." One of his "personalities" kidnaps a trio of pretty teenage cis girls. His other "personality" is apparently a woman, presented as the same actor wearing essentially conservative women's business attire.

This movie is just going to further stigmatize people with DID (not to mention the other "scary" sounding mental illnesses) and trans women, and it's going to get them killed. I want to break into M. Night Shyamalan's house and break all of his plates.

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:(

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I'm furious.

Despite knowing that it would just enrage me, I sat through a YouTube ad trailer for M. Night Shyamalan's new movie coming out called Split. Its premise and execution are clearly ableist (specifically regarding peeps with dissociative identity disorder) and transmisogynistic.

** spoiler omitted **

This movie is just going to further stigmatize people with DID (not to mention the other "scary" sounding mental illnesses) and trans women, and it's going to get them killed. I want to break into M. Night Shyamalan's house and break all of his plates.

8 as the trailer too. When did he write this, 1983? It's incredibly outdated in addition to its numerous other flaws!


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mechaPoet wrote:

I'm furious.

Despite knowing that it would just enrage me, I sat through a YouTube ad trailer for M. Night Shyamalan's new movie coming out called Split. Its premise and execution are clearly ableist (specifically regarding peeps with dissociative identity disorder) and transmisogynistic.

** spoiler omitted **

This movie is just going to further stigmatize people with DID (not to mention the other "scary" sounding mental illnesses) and trans women, and it's going to get them killed. I want to break into M. Night Shyamalan's house and break all of his plates.

Rather than break all his plates, just throw any and all film-making accolades he's ever gotten into his trash disposal and light it up. That way, he can at least eat.

Speaking *hypothetically*!

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Wei Ji the Learner wrote:
mechaPoet wrote:

I'm furious.

Despite knowing that it would just enrage me, I sat through a YouTube ad trailer for M. Night Shyamalan's new movie coming out called Split. Its premise and execution are clearly ableist (specifically regarding peeps with dissociative identity disorder) and transmisogynistic.

** spoiler omitted **

This movie is just going to further stigmatize people with DID (not to mention the other "scary" sounding mental illnesses) and trans women, and it's going to get them killed. I want to break into M. Night Shyamalan's house and break all of his plates.

Rather than break all his plates, just throw any and all film-making accolades he's ever gotten into his trash disposal and light it up. That way, he can at least eat.

Speaking *hypothetically*!

Breaking his plates will not prevent him from eating. Destroying his material possessions, considering how much money he makes, is not meaningfully violence. Unlike his film, which will unequivocally lead to the death of marginalized people due to his clumsy and gross portrayals of them.

He is now personally responsible for all medical bills of every trans woman and every person with DID. And he owes me dinner. I'm *not* sorry, and I *do* make the rules.

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mechaPoet wrote:

I'm furious.

This movie is just going to further stigmatize people with DID (not to mention the other "scary" sounding mental illnesses) and trans women, and it's going to get them killed. I want to break into M. Night Shyamalan's house and break all of his plates.

Really sick of this "crazy trans lady is a murderer" trope, when we're so frequently the victims in violent crimes and so rarely the perpetrator.


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mechaPoet wrote:

I'm furious.

This movie is just going to further stigmatize people with DID (not to mention the other "scary" sounding mental illnesses) and trans women, and it's going to get them killed. I want to break into M. Night Shyamalan's house and break all of his plates.

Really sick of this "crazy trans lady is a murderer" trope, when we're so frequently the victims in violent crimes and so rarely the perpetrator.

no idea how tv detective shows got away with the evil suave gay genius Villain of the week so many times.

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Crystal Frasier wrote:
Really sick of this "crazy trans lady is a murderer" trope, when we're so frequently the victims in violent crimes and so rarely the perpetrator.

(Do not) see Pretty Little Liars for more of the same. We were hopeful about it for a while, since multiple queer PoC as key characters, but the final season happened. (Not that it was unproblematic before, but ugh.)


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Really sick of this "crazy trans lady is a murderer" trope, when we're so frequently the victims in violent crimes and so rarely the perpetrator.

Looking for good stories that treat trans-people right and perhaps maybe even as protagonists without Mary Sue/Gary Stu Complex.

What would be a good place to start?


1983 sounds about right. Multiple personality disorder is dead and buried, folks. DID is NOT several personalities in one body. Bleh.

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Bur, almost forgot to post, got distracted by a certain Kickstarter in its final hours.

*offers healthy hugs to anyone and everyone that wants or needs some*


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I'm a pharmacy technician and I have patients from all walks of life. Some are going through some very challenging times. Things like cancer, transitions, terrible accidents, rare diseases, etc. I have to deal with people treating us as if we are health care professionals (which we are) and people who treat us as if we are retail employees (which we also are). Unfortunately that means that sometimes we aren't treated very well.

This leads me to a problem. We have a patient who is transitioning. I know that it's difficult for the parents, especially the father. I always try to refer to the patient by name, sometimes I will use pronouns. Dad refuses to acknowledge this and constantly refers to his daughter rather than his son. I don't want to put my job at risk defending someone who clearly should be defended. I want to be as supportive as possible.

If I wasn't at work, I would have a lot to say to dad. While at work I have to be more cautious. Any advice on what I can do? Even if I can't do much in this situation, I want to know what I can do going forward with other patients.


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Would it work to use "your child" and "they"?

You honor the person by not using pronouns that offend them. You honor the parent's pain by not throwing salt in their wounds.

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As the server outage has got other me:
*offers hugs to anyone and everyone that wants one*

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As the server outage has got other me:

*offers hugs to anyone and everyone that wants one*

Thankies :3

*joins in the offer of hugs to anyone and everyone that wants or needs one*

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Bob_Loblaw wrote:

I'm a pharmacy technician and I have patients from all walks of life. Some are going through some very challenging times. Things like cancer, transitions, terrible accidents, rare diseases, etc. I have to deal with people treating us as if we are health care professionals (which we are) and people who treat us as if we are retail employees (which we also are). Unfortunately that means that sometimes we aren't treated very well.

This leads me to a problem. We have a patient who is transitioning. I know that it's difficult for the parents, especially the father. I always try to refer to the patient by name, sometimes I will use pronouns. Dad refuses to acknowledge this and constantly refers to his daughter rather than his son. I don't want to put my job at risk defending someone who clearly should be defended. I want to be as supportive as possible.

If I wasn't at work, I would have a lot to say to dad. While at work I have to be more cautious. Any advice on what I can do? Even if I can't do much in this situation, I want to know what I can do going forward with other patients.

I would say that if you've used the son's correct name and pronouns without complaint before, simply continue to use them. It may be hard for the parents, but it's going to be a lot harder on their kid if the parents don't adapt and learn to accept their kid's gender.

It sounds like you're in the position of being the person they're getting the hormones from; is that right? If the parents are at least taking the steps to help their child undergo HRT, then it's not as if they're 100% opposed to their son being trans. Using their son's correct name and pronouns will help normalize their gender and their transition.


So I shouldn't overtly correct them. I should just continue to use the proper names and pronouns to help normalize it for them? I can do that. I want to be the person that they know they can trust. I'm not just talking about the young man, but the family too.

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I mean, I don't know the whole situation, so I can't say 100% what you should do.

But it seems like there are a couple of options here:

  • Use the wrong name and pronouns for the son. Obvs, you don't want to do this one, and I can confidently say that you shouldn't.
  • Use the correct name and pronouns for the son. I think this is a good option because aside from the obvious upside of being respectful of someone's transition, it could help the parents get used to hearing what their kid wants to be called.
  • Try to avoid using names and pronouns at all, using phrasing that talks about actions and objects and using first and second person. This is potentially linguistically tricky, and maybe not always possible, but it's more of an avoidance strategy.
  • Confront the parents. This is probably a bad strategy. They're already uncomfortable, and no one likes unsolicited advice or lectures, especially from strangers, especially about their own children. And it can be dangerous to complain about a person's behavior toward someone they have power over - despite good intentions, if you piss off the parents, they have it within their power to take out that frustration on their kid because of that power dynamic. Unless someone is coming to you for an in depth opinion, I would recommend subtlety.

IMO the best way to correct people about small (but important) slights like names and pronouns is to consistently use the correct ones yourself. If I were correcting the use of my own pronouns or name, it would be like correcting anyone's name. Ideally it looks something like: "Hey, Eddie!" "Actually, it's just Ed." "Oh, sorry, Ed. How are you?" So like, that, but with being trans.


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mechaPoet wrote:
IMO the best way to correct people about small (but important) slights like names and pronouns is to consistently use the correct ones yourself. If I were correcting the use of my own pronouns or name, it would be like correcting anyone's name. Ideally it looks something like: "Hey, Eddie!" "Actually, it's just Ed." "Oh, sorry, Ed. How are you?" So like, that, but with being trans.

It is how I've corrected everyone's grammar my entire life. ;) But seriously, this is the best way to go, for all the reasons mecha listed. It lets you support him while normalizing the change for his parents, and it means you avoid being perceived as adversarial and/or inviting repercussions for him. (Or yourself.) If they ask you for more advice, then it becomes appropriate to speak up, but until then, low-key treat him how he should be treated and you'll help them to learn how to as well.

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Monday morning and the Paizo site is up and running, woot!

*offers hugs to anyone and everyone that wants or needs one*

*especially the software team (hope they weren't too stressed yesterday)*


I'm going to go with options 2 and 3. I can't always avoid names and pronouns. Thanks for the advice.

I know I didn't give a lot of information. One of the things I am always wary of is giving too much information that would identify any of my patients. There are people on the boards who live in my area and could potentially figure out who I am referring to. While they are probably not going to do anything devious with the information, I don't have the right to identify any of my patients regardless of the level of care they get from me.


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Crystal Frasier wrote:
mechaPoet wrote:

I'm furious.

This movie is just going to further stigmatize people with DID (not to mention the other "scary" sounding mental illnesses) and trans women, and it's going to get them killed. I want to break into M. Night Shyamalan's house and break all of his plates.

Really sick of this "crazy trans lady is a murderer" trope, when we're so frequently the victims in violent crimes and so rarely the perpetrator.

Agreed 100%.

Shyamalan's a hack. He hasn't made a decent film since Unbreakable, which was "fair-to-middling," and has never made anything as good as The Sixth Sense, which itself was gimmick filmmaking at its most blatant.

I'm more angry at the studio for greenlighting a film like this. It's just lazy storytelling on two fronts. "Multiple personality" psycho-thrillers have been done to death on both the big and small screens. And the whole "crazy trans lady murderer" trope is likewise distasteful and over-done: from Psycho in 1960 to Dressed to Kill in 1980 to The Silence of the Lambs in 1991, and on and on.

I will not be seeing this film, and will encourage others to do likewise.


Haladir wrote:
Crystal Frasier wrote:
mechaPoet wrote:

I'm furious.

This movie is just going to further stigmatize people with DID (not to mention the other "scary" sounding mental illnesses) and trans women, and it's going to get them killed. I want to break into M. Night Shyamalan's house and break all of his plates.

Really sick of this "crazy trans lady is a murderer" trope, when we're so frequently the victims in violent crimes and so rarely the perpetrator.

Agreed 100%.

Shyamalan's a hack. He hasn't had a decent film since Unbreakable, which was "fair-to-middling," and has never made anything as good as The Sixth Sense, which itself was gimmick filmmaking at its most blatant.

I'm more angry at the studio for greenlighting a film like this. It's just lazy storytelling on two fronts. "Multiple personality" psycho-thrillers have been done to death on both the big and small screens. And the whole "crazy trans lady murderer" trope is likewise distasteful and over-done: from Psycho in 1960 to Dressed to Kill in 1980 to The Silence of the Lambs in 1991, and on and on.

I will not be seeing this film, and will encourage others to do likewise.

I liked devil.. But it was a bit too long.


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Bob's dilemma regarding parents of a trans kid reminds me of something going on in my own life. I was hoping I might be able to get some advice from the folks on this forum...

One of my daughter's friends is transitioning to male, and has been for about a year-and-a-half. We've known Ned forever: they've been friends since early elementary school. I've managed not to misgender him or use his previous name since he came out. Heck, I've heard his friends do so in conversation, and they just quickly correct themselves and move on (which he seems fine with). He's a really great kid: I've always liked him.

That said, one of his parents is having a really, really hard time accepting the change. My wife and I aren't all that close to his parents (we mostly know them as "Ned's parents"), but I've always thought they were warm, caring, and very loving with each other and their children. According to my daughter, this parent is saying some very hurtful things: that this is "just a phase," and that she doesn't want to lose her "beautiful daughter," and that she's pointed at a poster of Michelle Obama on Ned's wall and said, "That's the beauty of the human form! Why would you want to give that up?" I've known that she's been having trouble accepting her son as he is for a while, and had just assumed that it was "just a phase" on her part, and that she would work through this and come around after a few months.

But now I'm hearing that she's blocking Ned's access to hormone replacement therapy, claiming that it's "too expensive." I work for the same employer: I know that HRT is covered by our company's employee insurance policy, and I also have some idea of how much money she makes (i.e. a lot more than I do), so price really is not the issue.

Not sure if it's relevant, but Ned's parents are cis gay women. They're really nice, they're active in left-leaning political causes, and I am frankly shocked at this. That said, I'm hearing this third-hand... and Ned very much has a dramatic streak. (Also, my daughter has a tendency to uncritically accept what her friends say as the truth.)

Furthermore: Ned is only eight months shy of his 18th birthday... and once he turns 18, he doesn't need his parents' permission for medical treatment.

As a cis, straight-identified, guy, I'm really out of my element here: Other than offering a supporting environment when Ned's at my house, what (if anything) can/should I do?

(My wife says that we should just continue to be supportive of Ned when we're around him, and to keep our noses out of his family's business...)

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Wei Ji the Learner wrote:
Crystal Frasier wrote:


Really sick of this "crazy trans lady is a murderer" trope, when we're so frequently the victims in violent crimes and so rarely the perpetrator.

Looking for good stories that treat trans-people right and perhaps maybe even as protagonists without Mary Sue/Gary Stu Complex.

What would be a good place to start?

Honestly, I'd happily settle for Mary Sues, but we don't even get those, really. There are a few high points:

Rat Queens: Braga Special is a one-shot comic about an orc trans lady, that's mostly about how she ended up exiled from her people. It treats her being trans as a partial motivating factor, but otherwise a non-issue, which I have conflicted feelings about. That said, Braga gets to be an unapologetic badass AND a sweetheart, and we get to see that she's considered attractive and desirable for who she is, and that was beautiful and much appreciated.

Wandering Son goes the other direction: It is very, very much about transition and being trans, and dealing with HUGE identity issues, and how do you navigate all that when the information is intentionally hidden from children. It's very powerful, and while it doesn't get everything right, what it does get right is a breath of fresh air. Two trans main characters, and two trans side characters as well, and everyone is written very realistically (which is to say, far from perfect, but trying their best).

Redefining Realness by Janet Mock is an autobiography, rather than fiction, but damn can that woman write!

Cyber 6 is an animated series from the late 90's that was a cooperative effort between the Argentine creator, and French and Japanese animation studios. It's not EXACTLY a trans story, but the titular hero is effectively a trans woman. Or a trans man. Or gender fluid. Sort of. It's weird. But it's a beautiful, noir superhero series in the flavor of Batman: TAS that has a hero of some non-traditionally-gendered flavor. It's on Hulu and worth a watch. One of my favorites.

Hit & Miss is by no means a GOOD trans show. In fact, it's a terrible trans show. Any time they try to delve into trans issues, they get everything LAUGHABLY wrong. But it's a guilty pleasure. It's a British drama about a trans woman who works as an assassin for the mob, who accidentally inherits a bunch of children when an ex-lover dies. It ends on a cliffhanger, sadly, and it's trash from start to finish, but it's SO refreshing to see a trans character do anything besides *be trans* in a TV series.

Jem and the Holograms has a new comic series with a trans woman side character, Blaze, who is pretty cool and fun and gets to be a punk singer and go on some of the adventures. It's a big cast, though, so no one gets a lot of the spotlight. Except Pizazz. Because Pizazz.

Kim and Kim is a comic series from Black Mask Books about two bounty hunters in space, and one of the titular Kims has had a falling out with her bounty hunter dad because of her transition. I've only had the chance to read the first issue, but the art and writing are a lot of fun.

There are a few other examples within comics, but very rarely done as more than a "hey, I'm trans" mention for a side character we see very little of.

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Oh, oh, what about O Human Star?

I binge-read it when you recommended it before but didn't keep up with updates >_<

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Rysky wrote:

Oh, oh, what about O Human Star?

I binge-read it when you recommended it before but didn't keep up with updates >_<

Also very good! If we're getting into webcomics, there's lots of great stuff actually written by trans people. Life of Bria, Goodbye to Halos, Rain, Blue Valkyrie, Closetspace, Trans Girl Next Door, Manic Pixie Nightmare Girl, The Princess, Validation, Becoming Me, TransLucid, Assigned Male.

Honestly, if you want good trans stories, go webcomic.


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Someone on Twitter recommended Goodbye to Halos to me, but I haven't had a chance to learn more yet.

(The art I saw did give some excellent inspiration, though...)


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Wei Ji the Learner wrote:
Crystal Frasier wrote:


Really sick of this "crazy trans lady is a murderer" trope, when we're so frequently the victims in violent crimes and so rarely the perpetrator.

Looking for good stories that treat trans-people right and perhaps maybe even as protagonists without Mary Sue/Gary Stu Complex.

What would be a good place to start?

Aside from Crystal's list, the two best recommendations that come to mind are:

Sense8- Full disclosure, I haven't watched past the first episode, but I've seen it talked up by enough people, but it's written and directed by trans women, and if I properly recall the trans character in the main cast is played by a trans actress, so my understanding is it's nicely handled.

Kamen Rider W- Arguably I'm cheating here. If this character reads as a cis man to you, never mind. Otherwise, hey, Kamen Rider W is a Japanese superhero show where the titular hero is this weird two-minds-in-one-body fusion of a dorky wannabe noir detective and his partner (in the sense of running a detective agency, and also in the sense of portraying them as a couple to the fullest extent one can get away with under applicable broadcasting standards), who while never specifically stated to be such reads pretty clearly as trans (or at the very least, really pushing back against gender norms) and a shockingly positive portrayal of someone on the autism spectrum. Neither is ever specifically called out by anyone, and both take a back seat to generally being the more competent of the two, to the point where a later plot arc involves the dorky wannabe noir detective's feelings of inferiority.


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Crystal Frasier wrote:
Rat Queens: Braga Special is a one-shot comic about an orc trans lady, that's mostly about how she ended up exiled from her people.

The framing story from that is what stays with me. The way she's spending a lazy morning with this guy she just slept with, who's obviously into her, and it's no big deal.

Wei Ji the Learner wrote:

Looking for good stories that treat trans-people right and perhaps maybe even as protagonists without Mary Sue/Gary Stu Complex.

What would be a good place to start?

The three Angela series from Marvel don't have a trans lead, but Sera, the girlfriend of the lead is trans. She's also a mage. They revealed she was trans a few issues in, when we heard her backstory. Here's a bit of it: "We found a way to make me myself." And here's the cover to the final issue of the final series, Angela: Queen of Hel. That's her on the right.

There's also Cassandra in The Wicked + The Divine, which is about gods incarnating as people every 70 or 80 years. Cassandra's a reporter who's skeptical of the whole thing. Not one of the protagonists, but she's in the mix. She also does not suffer fools gladly.

And there's Jo, one of the leads in Lumberjanes, which is a cool comic about a bunch of girls running into supernatural things at a summer camp. Jo's identity was revealed in issue #17 "I know exactly where I belong. And it was never across the lake with the Scouting Lads."

Again, the first two aren't leads, but I was pretty happy with how the characters were written.

Edit to add: I've only seen the first few episodes, but I'll second Violet Hargrave's recommendation of Sense8. Really like Nomi, who's played by a trans actress, Jamie Clayton. Also, Freema Agyeman, Martha from Dr. Who, plays her girlfriend. So that's pretty cool.


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The Obama Administration and A.G. Lynch are continuing to stand up for trans rights up to the very end.

The Justice Department just filed an appeal to overturn the recent Texas court decision.

And here's a good interview with Lynch from last month on the subject: Why Loretta Lynch Told Transgender Americans "We See You."

Quote:
“Making someone invisible means that you don’t have to deal with their problems,” Lynch continued, noting that transgender people, particularly women of color, face extraordinary rates of homicide and violence. “I think the transgender community can no longer be invisible. They need to be front and center. By marginalizing the transgender community…that is not an invisible issue to me as a prosecutor, as a law enforcement officer, as the attorney general. So to tell a group, ‘We see you,’ means you are standing here next to me.”

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I may have binged all 15 volumes of Wandering Son in a single evening....

Star vs the Forces of Evil has a main character that has been strongly and repeatedly hinted to be a closeted trans girl. I mean, I have seen widely-accepted academic theories on literature that don't have half this evidence. Like it's even canon that this character has dysphoria (they always cover the mirror when they shower because they hate their body). There's not much trans content until season 2, though.


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Star has been on my radar for a while, but I've been kinda skeptical about cartoons produced by DisneyXD, CN, and Nickelodeon recently. (Also I don't own cable, so feh). I haven't even watched Steven Universe yet, despite one of my friends telling me that, verbatim, one of the characters is "the literal personification of gay sex."

For M:tG playing folks, Wizard's has been seriously been pushing exclusivity since Khans of Tarkir, where one of the most badass characters in Fate Reforged (both as a card and in-lore) was revealed as trans. Since then, they've had a significant number of characters (although mostly side characters) be gay or lesbian (Halana and Alena in SoI block, the group-hugs commander whose name I forget), have published a race that simply don't have genders and actually refer to them with "they," and there is MAJOR ship tease between two female members of the Gatewatch, the primary protagonist alliance in-universe.

In other news, I'm going to talk to my mom tomorrow. Hopefully. I've been talking to my school counselor, and we've agreed that there is a significant chance I'm not going to survive the next few years unless I start transitioning, Trump be damned. Luckily, she also works as a library clerk at my school, so actually snagging her to talk with a) the counselor, b) the social worker who specialises in LGBT teens, and c) my transguy friend who's already in the process of transitioning should be relatively easy.


Good luck, Doomkitten!


Haladir wrote:

One of my daughter's friends is transitioning to male, and has been for about a year-and-a-half. We've known Ned forever: they've been friends since early elementary school. I've managed not to misgender him or use his previous name since he came out. Heck, I've heard his friends do so in conversation, and they just quickly correct themselves and move on (which he seems fine with). He's a really great kid: I've always liked him.

That said, one of his parents is having a really, really hard time accepting the change.

Maybe now is a good time to get to know the parents better. See if they are open to a family get together. You don't have to do anything other than what you've been doing for Ned. This would give you a chance to see how they are dealing with things and maybe you will also make some good friends in the process.

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Best of luck, Doomkitten!

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The Doomkitten wrote:
Star has been on my radar for a while, but I've been kinda skeptical about cartoons produced by DisneyXD, CN, and Nickelodeon recently. (Also I don't own cable, so feh). I haven't even watched Steven Universe yet, despite one of my friends telling me that, verbatim, one of the characters is "the literal personification of gay sex."

Honestly, I didn't even watch Star until I saw a brilliant post by a fellow trans girl outlining the theory. I literally found it compelling enough to get me to watch it. You can watch it online for free legally (I'm pretty sure).

You friend is not wrong about Steven Universe, tbh. It definitely takes a while to get into that good stuff, though.

The Doomkitten wrote:
In other news, I'm going to talk to my mom tomorrow. Hopefully. I've been talking to my school counselor, and we've agreed that there is a significant chance I'm not going to survive the next few years unless I start transitioning, Trump be damned. Luckily, she also works as a library clerk at my school, so actually snagging her to talk with a) the counselor, b) the social worker who specialises in LGBT teens, and c) my transguy friend who's already in the process of transitioning should be relatively easy.

I wish you luck! I hope it goes well. *fingers crossed*

Silver Crusade

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Good luck Kitteh!

Dafuq is today? Tuesday? We're going with Tuesday.

*offers hugs to anyone and everyone that wants or needs one*

Silver Crusade

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*checks calendar*

It is in fact Tuesday.


Hrothdane wrote:

I may have binged all 15 volumes of Wandering Son in a single evening....

Star vs the Forces of Evil has a main character that has been strongly and repeatedly hinted to be a closeted trans girl. I mean, I have seen widely-accepted academic theories on literature that don't have half this evidence. Like it's even canon that this character has dysphoria (they always cover the mirror when they shower because they hate their body). There's not much trans content until season 2, though.

I am just getting into star vs forces of evil, and i think I have yet to encounter this character. But 8 love the show thus far.


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Rysky wrote:
Dafuq is today? Tuesday? We're going with Tuesday.

I was out of work by 0900 Friday morning and missed yesterday. Days of the week have no meaning anymore. :P

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TV stuffs

Echoing the Steven Universe comments - that was my binge show while I was recovering from surgery in November, and I can indeed confirm that one of the characters is the literal embodiment of gay sex. It warms my little LGBT-loving heart. :) I keep seeing stuff about Star vs the Forces of Evil, and I think I'm going to have to give it a go, too. (Along with the fifty billion other things I have to watch. I was born with a TV watching list I'll never finish, and yet whenever I sit down to watch TV, it's the same three TV shows and five movies every. single. time. Because it's how I roll, I guess.)

Doomkitten wrote:
Transitioning

Yay for steps forward! I hope conversations go well, and that the transition is as trouble-free and life-improving as possible.

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