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Rysky wrote:
Krensky wrote:
I never understood the appeal of the Tali romance... She was too much the hero worshiping little sister for me.

I didn't really get that vibe from her, but what I like about her.

Snarky.

Intelligent.

Names her drones.

Fun to have in the party.

Wanting to know what's under that suit.

DAT ACCENT.

for me, it was love when she gives Jacob a "f$+# you" glare when he mentions the ship they are on has an ai.

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I'm guessing you really like that scene, eh?


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{looks around at all the duplicate Freeholds} I thought you were Bobby da Costa, not Jamie Madrox? ;)


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Wow.

I really hope liara doesn't see this.


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Aniuś the Talewise wrote:
As a devotee of Thor who practices reconstructionist Germanic heathenry, that is also descriptive of me.

Not LGBT related...

As of about 2 years ago, the Hammer of Thor was accepted as a religious icon for use on headstones in national cemeteries. It's #55 on this list.


Irontruth wrote:
Aniuś the Talewise wrote:
As a devotee of Thor who practices reconstructionist Germanic heathenry, that is also descriptive of me.

Not LGBT related...

As of about 2 years ago, the Hammer of Thor was accepted as a religious icon for use on headstones in national cemeteries. It's #55 on this list.

I only intend on being cremated, but this is great news!

Actually, I'd probably like a picture stone to be erected in my name. It'd be expensive, though, so I don't expect it to happen.


Krensky wrote:

Or it's just another case of Bioware going weird at the last moment. Supposedly Ashley and Kaiden were supposed to be plotsexual, with audio recorded in both ME and ME2 for it but Bioware, I'm not sure I'd say chickened out, but it's close enough.

I know Bioware claims it was a work around for a scripting issue, but paying the VAs to record actual lines and entering dialog when empty audio and text files is ludicrousy cheaper makes me suspicious.

Actually, what I remember was that around that time a lot of fictitious rumors were floating around about ME's 'character customization' and what all the 'sex scenes' included (namely, you could go so far as to specify breast size, and that the sex scenes were XXX-rated), so they backed off on some of the queer romance plots because of that. (See! We don't even let you be GAY in Mass Effect!) The rumors were so bad and so baseless that Jack Thompson (yes, HIM) was defending BioWare. That was the story at the time, at least.

(I still maintain that the Mass Effect series is the best Star Control II remake I've ever seen...)

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pH unbalanced wrote:
Judy Bauer wrote:

Just got back from Gen Con—it was awesome to see so many folks wearing "gaymer" or "ally" ribbons on their convention badges. Thanks for helping us LGBT and allied gamers increase our visibility and build a sense of community, Tabletop Gaymers!

[Edit: Fixed the link.]

They were so popular I wasn't able to find one for myself until Saturday. Fortunately I'd asked Chris Self for one the day before when I was picking up my subscriptions, and so he saved one for me.

Next year y'all just need to look me up on day one. I had 100 of each as early as Wed evening, and still have a few if somebody missed out, but it's hard to pass them out when you're tied to the GM table. I passed about half of them off to the Paizo booth Thursday Afternoon as they hadn't been able to get any yet. They managed to get a bundle on Friday though and had them at the counter the rest of the con I believe.

Of course I didn't go over to Scotty's because I'm just not much of a partier; so it's my fault for not being a good advertiser Wednesday evening. Next year I'll try and buck up a little bravery and plunge into the social setting.

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{looks around at all the duplicate Freeholds} I thought you were Bobby da Costa, not Jamie Madrox? ;)

ROTFLMAO


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Mandy H. wrote:
Krensky wrote:

Or it's just another case of Bioware going weird at the last moment. Supposedly Ashley and Kaiden were supposed to be plotsexual, with audio recorded in both ME and ME2 for it but Bioware, I'm not sure I'd say chickened out, but it's close enough.

I know Bioware claims it was a work around for a scripting issue, but paying the VAs to record actual lines and entering dialog when empty audio and text files is ludicrousy cheaper makes me suspicious.

Actually, what I remember was that around that time a lot of fictitious rumors were floating around about ME's 'character customization' and what all the 'sex scenes' included (namely, you could go so far as to specify breast size, and that the sex scenes were XXX-rated), so they backed off on some of the queer romance plots because of that. (See! We don't even let you be GAY in Mass Effect!) The rumors were so bad and so baseless that Jack Thompson (yes, HIM) was defending BioWare. That was the story at the time, at least.

(I still maintain that the Mass Effect series is the best Star Control II remake I've ever seen...)

looks around nervously, hugs mass effect box when noone is looking

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Mandy H. wrote:
(I still maintain that the Mass Effect series is the best Star Control II remake I've ever seen...)

Since the Mass Effect series is one of my all time favorites, would you recommend checking out this apparent predecessor?


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Krensky wrote:

Or it's just another case of Bioware going weird at the last moment. Supposedly Ashley and Kaiden were supposed to be plotsexual, with audio recorded in both ME and ME2 for it but Bioware, I'm not sure I'd say chickened out, but it's close enough.

I know Bioware claims it was a work around for a scripting issue, but paying the VAs to record actual lines and entering dialog when empty audio and text files is ludicrously cheaper makes me suspicious.

Perversely enough, knowing that that code had been dummied out (if that’s the expression I’m looking for) in the first game made it easier for me to imagine for the other games that Ashley was curious but ultimately straight, as she and my version of Shepherd cautiously got to know each other. Knowing that canonically Ashley’s prejudices were directed against aliens, not LGBTQ folk, helped me imagine from a safe space what it might be like to negotiate a relationship with a woman who might initially be a little uncomfortable around me because she knows I’m lesbian, whereas the same situation in real life would be harrowing.

Cmdr. Phyllis Shepherd wrote:
Good grief, Ashley, 1) I have a girlfriend, 2) you’re a horrible person (don’t hate on folks just because they’re tentacle-headed blue biotic people (see also, point #1), or anything else), and 3), most importantly (on the subject of this particular conversation), I’m not going to keep flirting with someone who’s not interested, so relax.

I guess it was more fun for me that way than just having the tension in ME3 be about uncertainties concerning Shepherd’s loyalties and possibly questionable decisions, especially since I didn’t keep up with the non-game material. (Something about blowing up a mass relay somewhere or something between ME2 and 3?) Part of it was, too, that while games have gotten much better from the days when flirtatious dialogue would run along for a bit before the heteronormative script suddenly remembered the gender of one’s character, I think I could still sometimes see where things would get more romantic if one’s character suited the orientation of the person they were talking to.

My brother, who’s apparently flirtier than I am in games as in real life, ended up having his Shepherd being sat down to have a talk with Kaidan and Liara because things were getting out of hand. I was tempted to laugh, because the Mass Effect games aren’t that subtle. Or maybe, in games as in real life, I just have less patience with men in quasi-romantic contexts. :)
(My brother's straight, but he'll flirt mildly with pretty much anyone so long as no one gets their hopes too far up, whereas his queer sister doesn't really enjoy the idea even under circumstances minimally closer to ideal, such as compatible genders.)


Qunnessaa wrote:
Krensky wrote:

Or it's just another case of Bioware going weird at the last moment. Supposedly Ashley and Kaiden were supposed to be plotsexual, with audio recorded in both ME and ME2 for it but Bioware, I'm not sure I'd say chickened out, but it's close enough.

I know Bioware claims it was a work around for a scripting issue, but paying the VAs to record actual lines and entering dialog when empty audio and text files is ludicrously cheaper makes me suspicious.

Perversely enough, knowing that that code had been dummied out (if that’s the expression I’m looking for) in the first game made it easier for me to imagine for the other games that Ashley was curious but ultimately straight, as she and my version of Shepherd cautiously got to know each other. Knowing that canonically Ashley’s prejudices were directed against aliens, not LGBTQ folk, helped me imagine from a safe space what it might be like to negotiate a relationship with a woman who might initially be a little uncomfortable around me because she knows I’m lesbian, whereas the same situation in real life would be harrowing.

Cmdr. Phyllis Shepherd wrote:
Good grief, Ashley, 1) I have a girlfriend, 2) you’re a horrible person (don’t hate on folks just because they’re tentacle-headed blue biotic people (see also, point #1), or anything else), and 3), most importantly (on the subject of this particular conversation), I’m not going to keep flirting with someone who’s not interested, so relax.
I guess it was more fun for me that way than just having the tension in ME3 be about uncertainties concerning Shepherd’s loyalties and possibly questionable decisions, especially since I didn’t keep up with the non-game material. (Something about blowing up a mass relay somewhere or something between ME2 and 3?) Part of it was, too, that while games have gotten much better from the days when flirtatious dialogue would run along for a bit before the heteronormative script suddenly remembered the gender of one’s character, I...

I will never forgive Kaiden for being a [insert your favorite term for an individual lacking intestinal fortitude here!] and not doing the sane responsible thing and having a relationship with femshep and liara. Ever.


mechaPoet wrote:
Mandy H. wrote:
(I still maintain that the Mass Effect series is the best Star Control II remake I've ever seen...)
Since the Mass Effect series is one of my all time favorites, would you recommend checking out this apparent predecessor?

I would, honestly. The people who made it released the source code, and it's available for free download. A few things to keep in mind: It's definitely an artifact of its time, it came out in 92. It's also got a lot of what you could call 'grinding' bits in it, where you'll spend a bunch of time just accumulating materials. It's also very possible that I'm viewing it nicely because of nostalgia: it's one of the very first adventure games I ever played. It's also very much a non-linear game: the game will give you a few directions now and again on where to go next, but the galaxy map is seriously wide-open. As in, every star is visitable, from day 1.

Admittedly, the plot in the Mass Effect series far more mirrors the plot in Star Control 3 (which I do not recommend at all) but ME/SC2 feel a lot alike in tone to me.

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Usual Suspect wrote:

Next year y'all just need to look me up on day one. I had 100 of each as early as Wed evening, and still have a few if somebody missed out, but it's hard to pass them out when you're tied to the GM table. I passed about half of them off to the Paizo booth Thursday Afternoon as they hadn't been able to get any yet. They managed to get a bundle on Friday though and had them at the counter the rest of the con I believe.

And I spent most of the Con by the Paizo booth running Card Game demos. The only time I really got away was for the specials, which was a particularly bad time to be looking for anyone.

So this time it just wasn't meant to be...


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Something I've known about for a while and mentioned in at least one or two other threads on the forums is the x-card.

Link to the X-card google doc.

It's something that's strongly encouraged at Games on Demand (the event I GM at during GenCon), to help make games safe places. Everyone has different comfort levels with different kinds of content, and creating/talking about the x-card is a useful tool to help create boundaries, particularly at a convention where most people don't know each other.

While it's more geared towards strangers playing together, having the conversation and/or the actual tool at a regular game isn't bad either. People can be friends for years without realizing that they're stepping on each other's toes. Having the conversation that allows people to establish new boundaries makes it explicit that it's okay to speak up.

Anyways, just thought I'd toss this in here.


Irontruth wrote:

Something I've known about for a while and mentioned in at least one or two other threads on the forums is the x-card.

Link to the X-card google doc.

It's something that's strongly encouraged at Games on Demand (the event I GM at during GenCon), to help make games safe places. Everyone has different comfort levels with different kinds of content, and creating/talking about the x-card is a useful tool to help create boundaries, particularly at a convention where most people don't know each other.

While it's more geared towards strangers playing together, having the conversation and/or the actual tool at a regular game isn't bad either. People can be friends for years without realizing that they're stepping on each other's toes. Having the conversation that allows people to establish new boundaries makes it explicit that it's okay to speak up.

Anyways, just thought I'd toss this in here.

hnn.

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Usual Suspect wrote:
pH unbalanced wrote:
Judy Bauer wrote:

Just got back from Gen Con—it was awesome to see so many folks wearing "gaymer" or "ally" ribbons on their convention badges. Thanks for helping us LGBT and allied gamers increase our visibility and build a sense of community, Tabletop Gaymers!

[Edit: Fixed the link.]

They were so popular I wasn't able to find one for myself until Saturday. Fortunately I'd asked Chris Self for one the day before when I was picking up my subscriptions, and so he saved one for me.

Next year y'all just need to look me up on day one. I had 100 of each as early as Wed evening, and still have a few if somebody missed out, but it's hard to pass them out when you're tied to the GM table. I passed about half of them off to the Paizo booth Thursday Afternoon as they hadn't been able to get any yet. They managed to get a bundle on Friday though and had them at the counter the rest of the con I believe.

Of course I didn't go over to Scotty's because I'm just not much of a partier; so it's my fault for not being a good advertiser Wednesday evening. Next year I'll try and buck up a little bravery and plunge into the social setting.

I had a hard time finding the badges, and was finally helped out Friday, when one our our sisters brought a ribbon to me.


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On a slightly related note (and let's not bring up any of the controversy from earlier in the thread related to this)...

The vote for allowing Homosexuals as leaders in the Boy Scouts passed the national vote. It is now official.

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Irontruth wrote:

Something I've known about for a while and mentioned in at least one or two other threads on the forums is the x-card.

Link to the X-card google doc.

It's something that's strongly encouraged at Games on Demand (the event I GM at during GenCon), to help make games safe places. Everyone has different comfort levels with different kinds of content, and creating/talking about the x-card is a useful tool to help create boundaries, particularly at a convention where most people don't know each other.

While it's more geared towards strangers playing together, having the conversation and/or the actual tool at a regular game isn't bad either. People can be friends for years without realizing that they're stepping on each other's toes. Having the conversation that allows people to establish new boundaries makes it explicit that it's okay to speak up.

Anyways, just thought I'd toss this in here.

Now this has my interest. I definitely think this has great use in pick up play with strangers. I'm trying to think how it might be received in PFS (if only because my ability as a GM to alter the content is limited. For example, I can make sure Miss Feathers (my perennial example of problematic content) is role-played/presented in a way that is respectful/sensitive, but I can't remove her entirely from the scenarios where she appears.


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Irontruth wrote:

Something I've known about for a while and mentioned in at least one or two other threads on the forums is the x-card.

Link to the X-card google doc.

It's something that's strongly encouraged at Games on Demand (the event I GM at during GenCon), to help make games safe places. Everyone has different comfort levels with different kinds of content, and creating/talking about the x-card is a useful tool to help create boundaries, particularly at a convention where most people don't know each other.

While it's more geared towards strangers playing together, having the conversation and/or the actual tool at a regular game isn't bad either. People can be friends for years without realizing that they're stepping on each other's toes. Having the conversation that allows people to establish new boundaries makes it explicit that it's okay to speak up.

Anyways, just thought I'd toss this in here.

I've seen this before, and I do like the idea... but honestly my main "issue" so to speak with it has to do with the immediate reaction to it that erupts every time I've seen it brought up. Which is to say, that in all of the places I can think of where it would actually be a useful tool, its usefulness is completely mitigated by the fact that the people who need to respect it won't, which is why the card was needed in the first place.


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Mandy H. wrote:


I've seen this before, and I do like the idea... but honestly my main "issue" so to speak with it has to do with the immediate reaction to it that erupts every time I've seen it brought up. Which is to say, that in all of the places I can think of where it would actually be a useful tool, its usefulness is completely mitigated by the fact that the people who need to respect it won't, which is why the card was needed in the first place.

Oh, the card is by no means a solution unto itself. Sometimes it's helpful just introducing the card and talking about what it means. By helpful, I don't mean "solution" but rather at least helping broach the subject in the first place.

The card isn't perfect or useful for all game tables. I'm sure someone will come up with an idea that works better for other situations.


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Now this has my interest. I definitely think this has great use in pick up play with strangers. I'm trying to think how it might be received in PFS (if only because my ability as a GM to alter the content is limited. For example, I can make sure Miss Feathers (my perennial example of problematic content) is role-played/presented in a way that is respectful/sensitive, but I can't remove her entirely from the scenarios where she appears.

I agree, PFS presents it's own hurdles, because the content is largely determined ahead of time. The x-card is typically used in more free-form games where nothing has been determined ahead of time. In a completely improvised game, it's easier for the GM to move past certain content.

The concept could be modified or some other method adopted for PFS though. It might look very different from this.

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Yeah, I feel like the X-card would be helpful for me while playing in PFS, but I'm not sure how receptive my local group would be. Rather than using it because of specific events in a scenario, though, the things I'd like to X are the gross comments from my fellow players.


Hmm, I wonder how I'd implement the X card over roll20?

I'm thinking maybe a player can simply draw an x on the map (as big as they like) to represent the x card?

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mechaPoet wrote:
Rather than using it because of specific events in a scenario, though, the things I'd like to X are the gross comments from my fellow players.

Is this something you feel comfortable talking with the organizer/your local VO about? :-(


GreyWolfLord wrote:

On a slightly related note (and let's not bring up any of the controversy from earlier in the thread related to this)...

The vote for allowing Homosexuals as leaders in the Boy Scouts passed the national vote. It is now official.

Expected at this point, but still cool.

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Judy Bauer wrote:
mechaPoet wrote:
Rather than using it because of specific events in a scenario, though, the things I'd like to X are the gross comments from my fellow players.
Is this something you feel comfortable talking with the organizer/your local VO about? :-(

Potentially. Usually I just get uncomfortable with occasional misogynistic microaggressions. They happen just enough - infrequently but usually at least once per game night - that I don't know if talking to my VO will do much to curb the unconscious behavior of a room full of mostly white guys. There have been very few more serious incidents, which I successfully addressed individually.

The other stuff is subtle enough that I usually just don't have the spoons or social wherewithal to make the effort worth it. I mean it's not necessarily someone's fault that they don't know that being bisexual is even a thing, and it can't be helped if the scenario itself contains a transmisogynistic joke.


googles Miss Feathers

...

uhhhh


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That sounds a lot like one of the groups I've been playing PFS in, mechaPoet. Or rather, haven't been lately, as after I brought up some of the more offensive stuff to the coordinators and the VO, there was a bit of a brouhaha, people got offended because they were just innocent jokes, etc. And in my case, it always happens when it's all straight white guys except for me (who is very much still closeted to this particular group), and thus not in front of the sympathetic coordinator, who didn't want to do anything unless she actually saw it happening. I finally said that I was going to give this group a pass for a few months to let things settle down... and they haven't run a game I've been able to play in since then, so I've no way to gauge whether anything's changed.

While there's been no issues while I've been gming Core in the region, there's absolutely no player crossover between core and non-core here.


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mechaPoet wrote:


Potentially. Usually I just get uncomfortable with occasional misogynistic microaggressions. They happen just enough - infrequently but usually at least once per game night - that I don't know if talking to my VO will do much to curb the unconscious behavior of a room full of mostly white guys. There have been very few more serious incidents, which I successfully addressed individually.

The other stuff is subtle enough that I usually just don't have the spoons or social wherewithal to make the effort worth it. I mean it's not necessarily someone's fault that they don't know that being bisexual is even a thing, and it can't be helped if the scenario itself contains a transmisogynistic joke.

That just sounds painful all around? As I noted earlier, that first paragraph was part of the reason I don't play with two particular groups anymore. There was no good way to address it and we were playing at someone's residence in both cases, and the hosts were both... bad.(Not PF)


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And that's one of the main reasons I don't really play any roleplaying games unless it's with longtime friends who respect that sort of thing and aren't clueless (and which are also extremely rare).

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It's just the eternal struggle to find that perfect overlap between people who like the same games I do and people I actually like. :P


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Mandy H. wrote:
...And in my case, it always happens when it's all straight white guys except for me (who is very much still closeted to this particular group), and thus not in front of the sympathetic coordinator, who didn't want to do anything unless she actually saw it happening. I finally said that I was going to give this group a pass for a few months to let things settle down... and they haven't run a game I've been able to play in since then, so I've no way to gauge whether anything's changed...

Please forgive my paranoia, but that almost sounds like an answer right there? I mean, I could be reading into things, but that sounds... incredibly convenient? I'm not 'on the ground' and I'm not familiar with the situation beyond what you've related, but we've had similar happen with a couple of groups I've been in as a subtle form of ostracism?


Tumblr is not a place to speak safely and honestly about anxiety triggers even in spaces where respecting triggers is considered to be important and most people claim to respect them.


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Wei Ji the Learner wrote:
Mandy H. wrote:
...And in my case, it always happens when it's all straight white guys except for me (who is very much still closeted to this particular group), and thus not in front of the sympathetic coordinator, who didn't want to do anything unless she actually saw it happening. I finally said that I was going to give this group a pass for a few months to let things settle down... and they haven't run a game I've been able to play in since then, so I've no way to gauge whether anything's changed...
Please forgive my paranoia, but that almost sounds like an answer right there? I mean, I could be reading into things, but that sounds... incredibly convenient? I'm not 'on the ground' and I'm not familiar with the situation beyond what you've related, but we've had similar happen with a couple of groups I've been in as a subtle form of ostracism?

I can definitely see how it would look that way -- but that would require the person organizing PFS lately to actually know what I was and wasn't able to play. I've been mostly playing at a another regular gameday an hour away (which has been great enough to be worth driving an hour each way to), or at conventions; none of the things that have been played lately have ever been played in our region before.

What bugs me is that there are people in this group who I do enjoy playing with. There's more people I like playing with than not. I've been playing non-PFS stuff with them all throughout this, and there's been no problems at all -- just the PFS part has been full of issues.


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Aniuś the Talewise wrote:
Tumblr is not a place to speak safely and honestly about anxiety triggers even in spaces where respecting triggers is considered to be important and most people claim to respect them.

Tumblr is where I go to look at high end porn. I'm not sure what else it can be used for.


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Tumblr is like livejournal was. Which is to say, full of people, some communities more loosely connected than others, full of conversations. And it looks and feels totally different depending on which side of Tumblr you're on. The side I hang out on is full of geeky conversations, gif-parties, and support group stuff.


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Mandy H. wrote:
Tumblr is like livejournal was. Which is to say, full of people, some communities more loosely connected than others, full of conversations. And it looks and feels totally different depending on which side of Tumblr you're on. The side I hang out on is full of geeky conversations, gif-parties, and support group stuff.

yeah my tumblr experience is pretty mixed. I've got feet in the social justice, anarchist/leftist, trans and neurodivergent sides and feet in the vikings/heathenry side. There is also overlap between all of these things. And I apparently have a lot of feet.

My mutuals are pretty great. Most of the people I follow are pretty great, to my knowledge. But some folks, including mutuals, who I otherwise appreciate as perfectly good people, possibly even myself since there is no reason to believe that I know I can count myself out, internalize and repeat the same ideas and habits that are utilized by abusive people with a lot of social capital to hold up themselves and hurt others.

And that's what happened to me from a mutual, and even though I can't blame her too much for being a teenager under the influence of abusive adult mutuals and abusive people with a lot of social capital, I'm still upset.

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Freehold DM wrote:
Aniuś the Talewise wrote:
Tumblr is not a place to speak safely and honestly about anxiety triggers even in spaces where respecting triggers is considered to be important and most people claim to respect them.
Tumblr is where I go to look at high end porn. I'm not sure what else it can be used for.

Paizo related stuff as well as the personnel. Seriosuly, my Tumblr is titled Paizo & Porn.


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Please pm me a link.


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Freehold DM wrote:
Please pm me a link.

seconded.

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Aniuś the Talewise wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Please pm me a link.
seconded.

Thirded.

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... XD


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Rysky wrote:
... XD

Hey, you opened the door, counselor...

*waves for a link as well, unless that's crass and out of place. So hard to tell what is valid and not valid social interaction in this day and age of computer-stuff.*


Does Tumblr hide their blogs from the search results? Searching that title doesn't find anything for me. PM me too if you would please?


Paladin of Baha-who? wrote:

Does Tumblr hide their blogs from the search results? Searching that title doesn't find anything for me. PM me too if you would please?

It can if you select it in options.


So I've started reading Order of the Stick and am currently on comic 52 in the arc about the weird doppelganger party

And I'm like, to myself, "Durkon there is no need to be concerned because someone is a servant of Loki. You as a worshipper of Thor should know this, the fact that the two were blood brothers and helped each other out is in the damn edda."

Alas this comment would make more sense on my blog, but I'm avoiding that for the time being so I guess I'm fulfilling my ingrained habit to journalize my thoughts in a public space here. Sorry about that.


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Aniuś the Talewise wrote:

So I've started reading Order of the Stick and am currently on comic 52 in the arc about the weird doppelganger party

And I'm like, to myself, "Durkon there is no need to be concerned because someone is a servant of Loki. You as a worshipper of Thor should know this, the fact that the two were blood brothers and helped each other out is in the damn edda."

Alas this comment would make more sense on my blog, but I'm avoiding that for the time being so I guess I'm fulfilling my ingrained habit to journalize my thoughts in a public space here. Sorry about that.

These things happen.

But yes, people don't realize that in a good chunk of tales, Loki and Thor were nearly inseparable traveling companions, often because either Thor was stubborn and got something done to/assigned to/etc or Loki pulled some shenanigans and needed his brother to bail him out.

Loki's a pretty impressive deity from mythology.

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