Conjurer + Cleric for Sacred Summons

[Strus]

I'm making a Elf Conjurer (Teleportation school) for Pathfinder Society.

The feat build (to me) is obvious ->
1st - Spell Focus (Conjuration)
1st - Augment Summoning
3rd - Superior Summoning
5th - Improved Initiative
5th - Extend Spell (Metamagic)

My question is, is it worth to dip 1 lvl into a cleric to get Sacred Summons.

And does anyone have any advice about such a build?

[Cheapy]

Sacred Summons doesn't work the way you think it does for a few reasons.

The aura of the cleric is based off the deity, not the cleric itself.

It only applies to creatures whose SUBTYPES matches. Not their alignment. Not the type of spell you cast as. So you are NOT able to summon creatures marked with * as a standard action unless [i]another[i] ability lets you do that. Sacred Summons most surely does not.

So skip that dip, and go Master Summoner instead of Wizard :p

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[cartmanbeck]

Cheapy wrote:

Sacred Summons doesn't work the way you think it does for a few reasons.

The aura of the cleric is based off the deity, not the cleric itself.

It only applies to creatures whose SUBTYPES matches. Not their alignment. Not the type of spell you cast as. So you are NOT able to summon creatures marked with * as a standard action unless [i]another[i] ability lets you do that. Sacred Summons most surely does not.

So skip that dip, and go Master Summoner instead of Wizard :p

I'm confused by this one Cheapy, could you elaborate a little for me?

[Cheapy]

Sacred Summons wrote:

Benefit: When using summon monster to summon creatures whose alignment subtype or subtypes exactly match your aura, you may cast the spell as a standard action instead of with a casting time of 1 round.

So it needs to be the alignment subtype.

Applying the celestial / fiendish / resolute / entropic template does NOT add the alignment subtype(s).

Having the alignment of Lawful Good does NOT give you [lawful] and [good] subtypes, etc.

Creatures marked with * are summoned with your alignment, and change the spell's type, but not the creature's subtype.

The Aura of a cleric is the same as his deity's alignment (not the cleric's own!).

Since Sacred Summons only works on creatures with alignment subtype(s) that match your aura, and neither the templates nor just having the alignment gives you the subtypes, Sacred Summons does not work with creatures summoned with *.

[Strus]

So if my deity is, lets say, Nethys and my characters alignment is Neutral, I could summon almost everything? :)

[Cheapy]

Only if they had the subtype [Neutral]. Which I don't think exists.

But just because you have an alignment, doesn't mean you have the subtypes that describe the alignment ;)

It's only an OK feat, not the godsend most people think it is. Pun intended.

[Strus]

So if I summon this

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/animals/bat/bat-dire/summ oned-creature-dire-bat

"alignment subtype" doesn't cover -> "N"(as in Neutral) Large celestial/fiendish animal

[Cheapy]

That's it's alignment, not it's alignment subtype.

If you worship a LE god, you can summon a lemure as a standard action because he has the (lawful) and (evil) subtypes (after the Medium Outsider part).

[Gignere]

Strus wrote:

So if I summon this

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/animals/bat/bat-dire/summ oned-creature-dire-bat

"alignment subtype" doesn't cover -> "N"(as in Neutral) Large celestial/fiendish animal

The problem with neutral is that a cleric of a neutral god/goddess does not have a [Neutral] aura. The cleric class only grants an aura if your god/goddess is chaotic, lawful, good or evil. No aura if your god/goddess is neutral.

So sacred summons does not work with the neutral subtype.

[Strus]

That is a bit disappointing. :(

But at least I don't need to beat my head against a wall while making this Conjurer more viable.

Thanks Cheapy and thanks Gignere. :)