Thoughts on auction boons


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Grand Lodge 5/5

I would like to support the Gen Con charity as much as possible. What are the player base thoughts on say 3-5 one time only boons that we would auction at the PFS members meeting and then give the money raised directly to Gen Con charity. These may be a limited race option (catfolk, rat folk, etc..), an item you couldn't normally purchase (rhino hide with an extra enchantment or some such), and similar type boons.

This is not set in stone by any means. I'm just throwing the idea out there to get feedback. By the way, I'm not sold on the idea either way. It was a suggestion presented to me so that is why I'm turning to the playerbase for thoughts.

FYI, from Gen Con website:

This year to keep up the tradition, Gen Con chose School on Wheels, which enhances and enriches educational opportunities for school-aged homeless children as the recipient of the charity fundraising. 100% of the proceeds from the following charity events were donated to the cause: Ace of Aces VIII– Charity Speed Paint and Auction, Cardhalla, and Charity Auction, Fandom United Jail-n-Bail. In total over $18,000 was raised from all the different charity events at Gen Con.

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As long as it was a one time annual Gen Con charity auction, and as long as the type of boons being auctioned were things otherwise avilible (not the exact same boons, but using your rhino hide plus another enchantment as an auctioned boon, but having non-auction boons for other items plus a bonus, like celestial armor plus something else), I don't have a problem with it.

If they become so commonplace by having every medium and large convention having auction boons, that will make it so they're not as unique, but also give too much of a sense that people can pay to make their PFS characters better than the unwashed masses' characters, then that would not be a good thing.

Finally, when I first read the thread title, I thought it was "Thoughts on action boons". It would be pretty cool to get a one use boon that let you take an extra move action or something, rather than the more common boons that unlock something or gives a static bonus.

Grand Lodge 5/5

This would be for Gen Con only and not any other medium or other large conventions. This would be to solely help support the Gen Con charity.


My experience with an OP campaign giving to charity at one of the Big Conventions tied donations to benefits specific to that convention. I kind of feel that kind of system is likely to generate more support from the players (as everyone can and usually does contribute something).

I don't mind there being boons specific to individual conventions (which means that most players will never have access to them), but the idea of them being for sale seems a little unbalanced to me.

Just my thoughts on it.

Grand Lodge 5/5

Timothy McNeil wrote:

My experience with an OP campaign giving to charity at one of the Big Conventions tied donations to benefits specific to that convention. I kind of feel that kind of system is likely to generate more support from the players (as everyone can and usually does contribute something).

I don't mind there being boons specific to individual conventions (which means that most players will never have access to them), but the idea of them being for sale seems a little unbalanced to me.

Just my thoughts on it.

Any ideas on con specific boons is welcome. They would need to be different than allowing a reroll since the shirts already provide that.

Any thoughts on ideas to help support the charity are welcome.

Sovereign Court

Pathfinder Adventure, Adventure Path, Companion, Maps Subscriber; Pathfinder Battles Case Subscriber

(Edit to add that I just noticed the post said not to do a re-roll boon. Oh well, sorry, it's late.)

Mike, not wanting to throw this thread off-topic I sent you an e-mail on an idea. Since you've opened this thread to other ideas, I'll toss it in here.

Sell re-roll boons for a buck, and make them only redeemable at GenCon.

I know of it being done at HeroClix charity tournaments and it has led to some funny fundraising: player hits, opponent buys re-roll, repeat, player misses and buys re-roll and then hits, opponent again buys re-roll. Players determine how much they want to spend and donate to charity just to hit.

Now for PFS you can make it that the GMs can't buy the re-rolls as that might be unfair to the players, and that would prevent the confrontational scenario similar to that in the previous paragraph, but since I'm sure we like seeing PFS members do well during scenarios, this could give them an added boost while doing some fundraising. Could it allow them to survive a Kyle Baird run table?

Angus

Shadow Lodge

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Someone mentioned a while ago that when they wanted to do a canned food drive in their area the group did a special game where, players could have their characters get the benefits of a potion of cure light wounds every time a player put a canned good into the canned goods bucket. I don't think this translates directly, but it wouldn't bother me if players could buy in-game potions or items they could use at the con for cash.

Players would have to buy the boons in advance to use them and they would only be useable at the con. A raise dead, wands of cure light wounds, etc.

Dark Archive 3/5

I'm fine with boons that operate/exist to support existing charity functions. In fact, something I like seeing is the gaming community utilizing their passion and organizations to do some good. That said...

...I don't think races not otherwise available as boons at other events are appropriate. There are a lot of people who want very much to play a <insert non-standard race here> and inevitably, this creates some sort of significant artificial divide in access that is based primarily on money.

What I think might be more appropriate in terms of boons are upgraded named items (Like, a Celestial Chainmail that functions as +4 chainmail vs. the normal +3 as an example), access to a one time use free raise/restoration/expensive-but-sometimes-needed spell X, or something else that certainly has some unique game benefits but don't inevitably give someone a character that as a whole is only possible due to the certificate.

This is just my .02.

Liberty's Edge 5/5 Venture-Captain, Alabama—Birmingham aka Grolloc

Since we already have a precedent for these type of rare boons, I'm fine with an ultra-rare charity boon.

I'd rather see those come into play as a raffle than an auction though. I've learned to stay away from charity auctions at larger conventions, as my wallet doesn't play in the same league as many of those con regulars. I'll play a few tickets in almost any charity raffle, even knowing the big spenders can buy hundreds of entries to my 5-10.

3/5

0gre wrote:

Someone mentioned a while ago that when they wanted to do a canned food drive in their area the group did a special game where, players could have their characters get the benefits of a potion of cure light wounds every time a player put a canned good into the canned goods bucket. I don't think this translates directly, but it wouldn't bother me if players could buy in-game potions or items they could use at the con for cash.

Players would have to buy the boons in advance to use them and they would only be useable at the con. A raise dead, wands of cure light wounds, etc.

I really like this idea. Each player could purchase one boon at GenCon. $5 for a CLW potion and say $10 for a CMW potion. Keep the unique boons as well for an auction. The idea of having the potion boons is that EVERYONE could participate in supporting the charity, not just the five or so who win the auctions. $5 is something I can manage on my GenCon budget. $50 to $250+ is way out of my budget.

Auction boon ideas:

  • play a normally unavailable race
  • made a special contact in the merchant guild and you get to sell one item at 75% value instead of 50%.
  • have access to a craftsman who will make one unique magical item for you, following all normal rules, PFS legal otherwise, at standard purchase costs. (For example a ring of protection +2 with feather fall, shadow celestial armor, and a belt of +2 dex/+4 str). When approved, Michael will email you the specific boon.
  • get access to a unique animal companion/familiar/mount. Such as, if they existed, an Elven Hound.
  • +2 to any one stat
  • +2 untyped bonus to one skill
  • an invitation to the Paizo after GenCon staff dinner
  • at a table with ______ special Paizo staff member as GM for the GenCon special for levels ___ to ___. (6 of these would be auctioned off). Lisa, Sean, Erik, Michael, etc. Staff member and levels announced before auctioning.

-Swiftbrook
Just My Thoughts


Grolloc wrote:

Since we already have a precedent for these type of rare boons, I'm fine with an ultra-rare charity boon.

I'd rather see those come into play as a raffle than an auction though. I've learned to stay away from charity auctions at larger conventions, as my wallet doesn't play in the same league as many of those con regulars. I'll play a few tickets in almost any charity raffle, even knowing the big spenders can buy hundreds of entries to my 5-10.

I agree with the raffle idea, it will probably raise more for the charity than an auction, each person would pay less but im sure most con regulars would all buy some tickets for it partly for charity and partly for the chance at the boons.


I'm totally in support of this idea. There are so many people in this economy that could use help. This charity is a great thing for kids.

I like the idea of a raffle, but not limiting the purchase chances. It allows more money to be able to be collected for the charity. All people have a chance to win.

My thoughts.

Dark Archive 5/5

The charity auction sounds like a nice idea.

Liberty's Edge

Paizo has a rich history of helping others so this seems like a harmless way to continue to do so. Just don't offer anything off the charts.

4/5

Michael Brock wrote:
This would be for Gen Con only and not any other medium or other large conventions. This would be to solely help support the Gen Con charity.

I think a raffle would be the best and fairest way to go. It does allow everyone to participate and feel like part of the team. An Auction would allow those with disposable income to take advantage of the system, drop a couple hundred dollars on a boon and turn everyone else off from the auction.

Besides this game is based on randomness, so in the sprit of that randomness a Raffle is the way to go. :)

We COULD start this up at the other medium or large conventions: PaizoCon, Dexcon, and Origins and continue it all the way to GENCON where we would announce the raffle winners.

If the winners were not there then he/she would be notified via email or on the Paizo website. This would involve the entire fanbase and not only draw positive PR from one event but it would create a buzz and excitement all over the PFS gaming community until drawing time. The winners would be eligible for a single prize for that Charity drawing.

Think of this as an RPG CHARITY SUPERSTAR event!

Mi dos centavos.

4/5

The boons should be ULTRA-RARE, however my suggestion would be to create a UNIQUE yearly boon awarded to one person each gaming year.

Some ideas are pretty obvious:

Race Boon: Drow, Fetchling, Goblin, etc one that normally wouldnt be playable and has not been rewarded previously - I'd allow a player's choice of the allowed race award for this one rather than giving him a goblin pc when he really wants a Drow, etc.

Burst of insight: "You have acquired an ancient Azlanti Memory Stone: use of this stone will give you temporary use of the XXXXX feat for the next 3 PFS Scenarios or 1 PFS Sanctioned Module this character plays. After 3 PFS session or 1 Module played the power of the memory stone fades. You cannot use this stone to qualify you for any permanent feat selection. When used the GM will sign include his pfs number verifying its use." or something to that extent.

Jackpot: "Through an inheritance or a lucky dungeon delve you have managed to come into more treasure than usual. Multiply your level by 2000 and recieve that amount of gold as a one time bonus." GM will sign/verify its use.

Most Loyal Agent: Your faction has deemed you one of its most loyal agents and has chosen to enchant a single weapon or armor with an additional ability with a value of up to 20,000gp or +2 WPN/Armor upgrade. This boon can be applied to special items as well.

Unique Boons: ONE such award per year ONLY.

1.Magical Race:You are the child of a powerful being: you can apply the lycanthrope/half-celestial/half-dragon template to a brand new character!"

2. Ancient Thassalonian/Azlanti: You emerge from the ruins of the Old Light in Sandpoint after an earthquake destroyed the Stasis cell where the Warmages of Bakrukhan imprisoned you. After some help from a local Varisian Brodert Quink, you realize that 10,000 years have passed and Thassilon is no more. The magical radiations permeating the Old Light have dulled your skills to the level of an apprentice. You must relearn your skills anew but you are now free to travel throughout Golarion to experience the new world." You begin at 1st level, Add +2 to every stat.

3. Discovery at Scarwall: Through your adventuring journeys or indebted contacts you have managed to acquire one of the following: Celestial Plate Mail/Shadowcount's Vestments, etc

Just a few ideas.

Grand Lodge 5/5

I like the idea of a raffle for several unique boons and an auction for a signed book or some such. Keep up the ideas. All the above suggestions have been great.


At our local convention, a popular LARP group will donate real items that come with in-game powers. This way, the winner of the item has something they could use out of game, but also has the in-game powers. These items always sell quite well and add a nice chunk to our charity/scholarship award from the auction. So if you are going to put a real item in the auction, like that signed book, it should include some sort of in-game ability or boon or reward too, that can't be gotten from the raffle.

Oh, and any items gotten from a raffle or auction should be set up so that they are not transferable, since real money is being paid, unlike the free boons that can be gotten at other conventions.


I really like the idea of a rafflle, since this is about GenCon. I can see it being very easy logistically to have a player register for an Event Gencon Charity Boon. At the cost of a generic 2$ ticket. I imagine we could have allot of casual entries.

If I remeber correctly gencon in the past has had a charity box to redeem the value of generics that wasn't played.

I would really like to see an option to play a kobold...

Grand Lodge 5/5

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Chris Bonnet wrote:


I would really like to see an option to play a kobold...

Not going to happen.


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I've made this suggestion to coordinators of years past, but the third time's the charm, right? ;-)

For both PaizoCon and Gen Con, auction/sell/raffle tickets to play a handful of tables with special judges (Paizo staff, contributors, industry celebrities). Conversely, sell tickets to GM a table with the same type of people PLAYING the scenario. I'd love to run a table with Bulmahn sitting at it, and would gladly make a donation to charity to do so.

Sovereign Court

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Some ideas for School on Wheels themed boons:

Volunteer Tutor: Spent time in-between pathfinder assignments tutoring the underprivileged. Pick one Knowledge Skill to become a class skill.
(kinda free-trait-y, so maybe overpowered for a boon. But maybe not since it's for charity.. ymmv)

Little Brother/Little Sister: Your reputation for sponsoring the less fortunate preceeds you. Once per session, you may call upon a youngster in the local town to assist on a knowledge/local or gather information check.

The Exchange 5/5 RPG Superstar 2014 Top 32

Getting Bulmahn as a GM is easy. He started pulling my friends and I out of every muster he saw us in, after we beat up on DM Erik Mona during our leisurely stroll through the Vault of the Drow LG special.

Silver Crusade

Mike, I like the Idea of an auction boon but don't like the idea of having to go to Gencon to get it. Many of us don't have the mony to go to Gen Con wish I did. Don't limit you fundraisng to people that only go to Gen Con do an Online Raffle or auction where the person knows what boon he is biding for. This would raise alot of ony for your charity.

The Exchange

Lou Diamond wrote:
Mike, I like the Idea of an auction boon but don't like the idea of having to go to Gencon to get it. Many of us don't have the mony to go to Gen Con wish I did. Don't limit you fundraisng to people that only go to Gen Con do an Online Raffle or auction where the person knows what boon he is biding for. This would raise alot of ony for your charity.

I agree 100% and would love the option to bid online for these.

3/5

Lou Diamond wrote:
Mike, I like the Idea of an auction boon but don't like the idea of having to go to Gencon to get it. Many of us don't have the mony to go to Gen Con wish I did. Don't limit you fundraisng to people that only go to Gen Con do an Online Raffle or auction where the person knows what boon he is biding for. This would raise alot of ony for your charity.

While I agree with this idea, isn't an aspect of the special boons that they are specifically for people who are able to attend a con? I don't know if this is intentional or unintentional, so I wonder if there is any categorical reason why it cannot change.

The Exchange RPG Superstar 2010 Top 16

An aside: so long as the raffle / auction prize is "some imaginary equipment or an imaginary advantage given to your imaginary character, who might die in his next encounter, and then where will you be, smart guy," there will be a significant number of people who will not understand why anyone would want to pay real money for it. They might still donate, if they think the cause is just, but the prize wouldn't be that attractive to them.

I say "them", but really, I should say "us," 'cause I'm one of those people. (I remember, back in the early '90s, the auctions at Winter Fantasy for things like "your Living City PC gets a dozen +1 darts. The charity as "feed the penguins at the Milwaukee zoo". I just looked on, bewildered, that people would spend money on that.)

What I would be more inclined to pay for is some way to have an impact in the campaign. Maybe a repeat of last year's "name a Venture Captain" boon. Or maybe "work with an established PFS writer who will take your ideas and turn them into a serviceable scenario." I'd wager that would go for some serious money.

Silver Crusade

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There was a "name a venture captain boon?"

Liberty's Edge

Chris Mortika wrote:
An aside: so long as the raffle / auction prize is "some imaginary equipment or an imaginary advantage given to your imaginary character, who might die in his next encounter, and then where will you be, smart guy," there will be a significant number of people who will not understand why anyone would want to pay real money for it. They might still donate, if they think the cause is just, but the prize wouldn't be that attractive to them.

The most useful prize is probably a free Raise Dead (with the trimmings) which can be retroactively applied to any character.

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