paizo.com Recent Posts in The Pure Linepaizo.com Recent Posts in The Pure Line2012-01-27T19:45:41Z2012-01-27T19:45:41ZRe: Forums: Round 2: Create a new organization: The Pure LineChris Shaefferhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2nizy?The-Pure-Line#362012-02-19T03:03:55Z2012-02-19T03:03:55Z<p>(Not feeling too well, so I'm going to turn in for the night and post it in the morning after I get a chance to read it over again.)</p>(Not feeling too well, so I'm going to turn in for the night and post it in the morning after I get a chance to read it over again.)Chris Shaeffer2012-02-19T03:03:55ZRe: Forums: Round 2: Create a new organization: The Pure LineChris Shaefferhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2nizy?The-Pure-Line#352012-02-19T00:38:51Z2012-02-19T00:38:51Z<p>Thrune-bait, indeed! :D</p>
<p>I imagine any nobles wanting or eligible to be a part of this group would be of older stock than those upstarts in the newer noble families. So I'm sure there's plenty of ill-will towards House Thrune and vice-versa, but only as individuals, and not as an organization.</p>
<p>Aliomar isn't a member of one of the major houses and poses no direct threat to the throne (not yet, anyway). Chelaxian nobility is pretty notorious for its machinations, so I'm sure House Thrune has plenty more pressing schemes to beat down. Once these folks start producing truly powerful and cunning individuals though, I could see some real conflict arising.</p>
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<p>So, like in every other round, I'm releasing a revised version of my organization to address the main concerns you all brought up. I can't change the core idea of the organization, so sorry if it's not your thing. I can, however, make what's there more enticing and useful.</p>
<p>Stay tuned. I'll be putting it out there tonight!</p>Thrune-bait, indeed! :D
I imagine any nobles wanting or eligible to be a part of this group would be of older stock than those upstarts in the newer noble families. So I'm sure there's plenty of ill-will towards House Thrune and vice-versa, but only as individuals, and not as an organization.
Aliomar isn't a member of one of the major houses and poses no direct threat to the throne (not yet, anyway). Chelaxian nobility is pretty notorious for its machinations, so I'm sure House Thrune has...Chris Shaeffer2012-02-19T00:38:51ZRe: Forums: Round 2: Create a new organization: The Pure LineAsk A RPGSupersuccubus (alias of Charles Evans 25)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2nizy?The-Pure-Line#342012-02-17T16:45:08Z2012-02-17T16:45:08Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Chris Shaeffer wrote:</div><blockquote><p> <b>The Pure Line</b>
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<b>Leader</b>: Duke Aliomar of Westcrown
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<b>Structure</b>: Circle of noble peers
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<b>Scope</b>: Regional </blockquote><p><span class=messageboard-ooc>Disclaimer:
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You should know the drill by now, but in case you missed it the first time round, Ask A RPGSupersuccubus is posting from the point of view of a CE aligned succubus: [Spoiler omitted] ;) </span> </p>
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<span class=messageboard-ooc> There’s a difference between late and <i>fashionably</i> late. The former is what most other beings manage. The latter is what sophisticated, (very advanced) succubi manage. </span> </p>
<p><b>First impressions always being important, do members of this organization wear nifty robes or uniforms when out on formal business? </b>
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No robes or uniform are indicated, and trying to get a bunch of inbred nobles to agree to all wear the same things... well let's just say that herding elven cats is probably easier. </p>
<p><b>Does membership of this organisation seem likely to involve regular tea or dinner parties or other <i>appropriate</i> social occasions?</b>
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Conceivably, although the activities mentioned seem to focus more on other areas than socialising. </p>
<p><b>Is the cost of being a member of this organisation likely to be acceptable to a succubus?</b>
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Membership is not likely for a succubus, owing to the 'must be of Azlanti descent' requirement, although come to think of it Zura has a couple of rather weird descendents who would <i>technically</i> qualify whilst being demons. </p>
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I'm surprised they last in Cheliax, the home of House Thrune and a bunch of devil-worshipers. The Azlanti and Aroden focus of the organization harks back too much to Cheliax 'before' the current regime took power, and the relationship with the majestrix must be uneasy at best. Maybe the axe is being sharpened for them, but just hasn't fallen quite yet.
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I would not advise being a member of this organization and in Cheliax in the near future. If a fight doesn't seem to be normally likely to occur, an Abyssal influence may end up helpfully nudging things along. (Always fun to make life interesting for House Thrune...)
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Oh yes, and I doubt very much that any human could trace their family back ten millenia (including through Golarion's Age of Darkness) or not unless they have some sort of spell to do it. </p>
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<span class=messageboard-ooc> Oh go on... Thrune-bait. </span></p>Chris Shaeffer wrote:The Pure Line
Alignment: LE
Headquarters: Cheliax
Leader: Duke Aliomar of Westcrown
Structure: Circle of noble peers
Scope: Regional
Disclaimer:
You should know the drill by now, but in case you missed it the first time round, Ask A RPGSupersuccubus is posting from the point of view of a CE aligned succubus: [Spoiler omitted] ;) Important Note:
There’s a difference between late and fashionably late. The former is what most other beings manage. The latter is what...Ask A RPGSupersuccubus (alias of Charles Evans 25)2012-02-17T16:45:08ZRe: Forums: Round 2: Create a new organization: The Pure LinePaul Brownhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2nizy?The-Pure-Line#332012-02-11T20:43:08Z2012-02-11T20:43:08Z<p>Had I made it, my organization was going to be similar, but led by an exile from Hermea whose obsession with the Azlanti bloodline led to rejection by them. Their methods were more magical and alchemical, with their research leads and failed experiments providing my adventure hooks.</p>
<p>Thus, I give this my seal of Azlanti approval.</p>Had I made it, my organization was going to be similar, but led by an exile from Hermea whose obsession with the Azlanti bloodline led to rejection by them. Their methods were more magical and alchemical, with their research leads and failed experiments providing my adventure hooks.
Thus, I give this my seal of Azlanti approval.Paul Brown2012-02-11T20:43:08ZRe: Forums: Round 2: Create a new organization: The Pure LineChris Shaefferhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2nizy?The-Pure-Line#322012-02-11T15:05:33Z2012-02-11T15:05:33Z<p>Thanks for the tips!</p>
<p>On the name: Azlanti only had a given name, and no family name. Some people who fancy themselves modern-day Azlanti follow the same naming conventions.</p>Thanks for the tips!
On the name: Azlanti only had a given name, and no family name. Some people who fancy themselves modern-day Azlanti follow the same naming conventions.Chris Shaeffer2012-02-11T15:05:33ZRe: Forums: Round 2: Create a new organization: The Pure LineSteven Helthttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2nizy?The-Pure-Line#312012-02-11T13:53:25Z2012-02-11T13:53:25Z<p>My first impression is that the name gives everything away, and the name is also pretty boring. I think magic items need to include their direct function somehow in the name. Not so with organizations. Some pretentious branding complete with fearsome symbolism makes the best organization name to me.</p>
<p>I think your writing is pretty strong but you miss some opportunities. You only give us "Duke Aliomar" instead of "Duke Vyseus Aliomar" or whatever. Then you don't list anyone else.</p>
<p>I think the idea of tying ethinic purists to Golarion is a nonSuperstar approach, but I agree you have made them a little less ho hum and that a more imaginitive name and more opportunity for conflict might have won me over with this. As it is, there's no storytelling meat and that's a lost oppoertunity. Give the organization some internal conflict (group 'x' escalates its magical experimentation, even though Aliomar and other think it risky and a perversion of their founding principles), and highlight ways they come into conflict with adventuring groups.</p>My first impression is that the name gives everything away, and the name is also pretty boring. I think magic items need to include their direct function somehow in the name. Not so with organizations. Some pretentious branding complete with fearsome symbolism makes the best organization name to me.
I think your writing is pretty strong but you miss some opportunities. You only give us "Duke Aliomar" instead of "Duke Vyseus Aliomar" or whatever. Then you don't list anyone else.
I think the...Steven Helt2012-02-11T13:53:25ZRe: Forums: Round 2: Create a new organization: The Pure LineChris Shaefferhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2nizy?The-Pure-Line#302012-02-10T23:42:02Z2012-02-10T23:42:02Z<p>Thanks for your kind words, Seth. I hope you enjoy my future entries!</p>Thanks for your kind words, Seth. I hope you enjoy my future entries!Chris Shaeffer2012-02-10T23:42:02ZRe: Forums: Round 2: Create a new organization: The Pure LineSeth Whitehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2nizy?The-Pure-Line#292012-02-09T16:59:18Z2012-02-09T16:59:18Z<p>Congrats on making it to the next round, and thanks for the behind-the-scenes thoughts on your organization. It was really cool to see your ideas and your initial brain-storming. I didn't end up voting for your organization, but your comments help me understand where you were coming from. It was a really solid organization. I didn't have any complaints about it; it just didn't excite me like some of the entries.</p>
<p>Good luck on the next round, and thanks for the notes on your entry. I'm looking forward to what you create for your monster. Good luck!</p>Congrats on making it to the next round, and thanks for the behind-the-scenes thoughts on your organization. It was really cool to see your ideas and your initial brain-storming. I didn't end up voting for your organization, but your comments help me understand where you were coming from. It was a really solid organization. I didn't have any complaints about it; it just didn't excite me like some of the entries.
Good luck on the next round, and thanks for the notes on your entry. I'm looking...Seth White2012-02-09T16:59:18ZRe: Forums: Round 2: Create a new organization: The Pure LineChris Shaefferhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2nizy?The-Pure-Line#282012-02-07T01:12:42Z2012-02-07T01:12:42Z<p>Good evening (or other part of the day) everybody!</p>
<p>I'm feeling pretty solid in terms of my chances in getting into the next round, so thanks to everybody who took the time to comment on my item or vote for me (especially Jerall and Sean McGowan. Thank you!). As always, I appreciate your criticisms the most, because that's the best way for me to improve! Like last round, I've taken everything you've all said into account, so allow me to address your points:
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If you read all that, thanks again! I hope you have more of an idea of my thought processes and my growth potential as a designer (or lack thereof, if you see it that way).</p>
<p>Like before, I'll be taking all of your comments and posting a revised version after the monsters have been submitted for the next round. Have a good day/night!</p>
<p>P.S. - In case you're interested, I always make a notepad document where I unload my brain before making something. Here's the one for this round:
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I'm feeling pretty solid in terms of my chances in getting into the next round, so thanks to everybody who took the time to comment on my item or vote for me (especially Jerall and Sean McGowan. Thank you!). As always, I appreciate your criticisms the most, because that's the best way for me to improve! Like last round, I've taken everything you've all said into account, so allow me to address your points:
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[Spoiler...Chris Shaeffer2012-02-07T01:12:42ZRe: Forums: Round 2: Create a new organization: The Pure LineSean McGowanhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2nizy?The-Pure-Line#272012-02-06T19:25:06Z2012-02-06T19:25:06Z<p>This got one of my votes. Honestly, this falls into the 'why didn't anyone ever think of this prior to now' category for me; the notion of a <i>Holy Blood, Holy Grail</i>-ish eugenics conspiracy trying to restore the Azlanti race is really clever, and I think you executed it well here. This was one of the four entries that, after a first reading, I never had to re-examine to see if I really wanted to vote for it. Good job.</p>This got one of my votes. Honestly, this falls into the 'why didn't anyone ever think of this prior to now' category for me; the notion of a Holy Blood, Holy Grail-ish eugenics conspiracy trying to restore the Azlanti race is really clever, and I think you executed it well here. This was one of the four entries that, after a first reading, I never had to re-examine to see if I really wanted to vote for it. Good job.Sean McGowan2012-02-06T19:25:06ZRe: Forums: Round 2: Create a new organization: The Pure LineCelestial Healerhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2nizy?The-Pure-Line#262012-02-03T23:13:51Z2012-02-03T23:13:51Z<p>I rather like this entry. I could see them coming into conflict with the PCs if, in the course of an adventure, they are actively trying to subjugate "lesser" populations. They're the type of group that, as a PC, I would love to hate.</p>I rather like this entry. I could see them coming into conflict with the PCs if, in the course of an adventure, they are actively trying to subjugate "lesser" populations. They're the type of group that, as a PC, I would love to hate.Celestial Healer2012-02-03T23:13:51ZRe: Forums: Round 2: Create a new organization: The Pure LineLuthiahttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2nizy?The-Pure-Line#252012-02-02T22:53:48Z2012-02-02T22:53:48Z<p>Congratulations again, and once more, good luck in the continued contest.</p>
<p>I didn't like your item much, but strangely, a lot of my disliked items gave me much more likeable organizations. This is one of them. The idea isn't huge or new or vastly inspired. But it's there, and I haven't seen it in this world before, despite it's obvious place here. That alone gives you a number of points. Second, you incidentally (I'm sure it wasn't mind reading, across an ocean and all) hit upon something which kind of fits a way to turn a rather liked (but good aligned) PC of mine I never got to play (campaign cancelled) into a vicious NPC to use against my players.</p>
<p>Now, I'm sorry, but it's just not a whole lot of organization, though.
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I like the idea and design space. I don't quite like it enough to promise a vote, unless I'm at 7 given and really can't figure out where to put the last. That said,</p>
<p>I wish you the best of luck.</p>Congratulations again, and once more, good luck in the continued contest.
I didn't like your item much, but strangely, a lot of my disliked items gave me much more likeable organizations. This is one of them. The idea isn't huge or new or vastly inspired. But it's there, and I haven't seen it in this world before, despite it's obvious place here. That alone gives you a number of points. Second, you incidentally (I'm sure it wasn't mind reading, across an ocean and all) hit upon something...Luthia2012-02-02T22:53:48ZRe: Forums: Round 2: Create a new organization: The Pure Linefeytharnhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2nizy?The-Pure-Line#242012-02-02T16:12:21Z2012-02-02T16:12:21Z<p>I am not completely sold on this one (nothing really original, dubious methods), but I find myself lacking entries that make me go 'yeah, that is great'. That said, I like the general idea of your group and I how I could put them to good use and play out the group and its members to great effect.
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Voted for you.</p>I am not completely sold on this one (nothing really original, dubious methods), but I find myself lacking entries that make me go 'yeah, that is great'. That said, I like the general idea of your group and I how I could put them to good use and play out the group and its members to great effect.
Voted for you.feytharn2012-02-02T16:12:21ZRe: Forums: Round 2: Create a new organization: The Pure LineDM Dan E (alias of Dan E)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2nizy?The-Pure-Line#232012-02-02T13:29:30Z2012-02-02T13:29:30Z<p>Combining a focus on genetic purity with kidnapping commoners just doesn't work for me. They just aren't racially pure.</p>Combining a focus on genetic purity with kidnapping commoners just doesn't work for me. They just aren't racially pure.DM Dan E (alias of Dan E)2012-02-02T13:29:30ZRe: Forums: Round 2: Create a new organization: The Pure LineMothmanhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2nizy?The-Pure-Line#222012-02-02T05:30:26Z2012-02-02T05:30:26Z<p>I like that you’ve done something with a connection to the Azlanti here, and this group bent on racial purity could be quite sinister ... but as presented they come across as a little bland. I’m not really seeing the conflict for adventuring PCs, at least not beyond conflict with any run of the mill group of slavers or decadent nobles. In fact, while their methods are no doubt deplorable, I can see good PCs getting on board with some of their sub-goals (like getting rid of the Coils and the aboleths); you’ve even set them up as a possible PC patron in this regard.</p>
<p>Good luck Chris.</p>I like that you’ve done something with a connection to the Azlanti here, and this group bent on racial purity could be quite sinister ... but as presented they come across as a little bland. I’m not really seeing the conflict for adventuring PCs, at least not beyond conflict with any run of the mill group of slavers or decadent nobles. In fact, while their methods are no doubt deplorable, I can see good PCs getting on board with some of their sub-goals (like getting rid of the Coils and the...Mothman2012-02-02T05:30:26ZRe: Forums: Round 2: Create a new organization: The Pure LineKris Newtonhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2nizy?The-Pure-Line#212012-02-05T14:54:23Z2012-02-01T21:50:44Z<p>I'm on the same page with most everyone else, it seems. This idea is sound, but it doesn't wow me. It's fine to work from a straightforward base like this, and in fact it can help you to keep your idea well-grounded; I don't see the glaring faults or unaddressed issues in your entry that I've seen in some others. The bit you're missing is the killer idea, the twist that turns this into something we've never seen before. Maybe if they were fighting some kind of degenerative inbreeding problem in a totally backwards way, by trying to regain their purity? Maybe if they had some unusual MO, such as using sorcerous matchmakers to pursue their eugenics program covertly?</p>
<p>As it is, you've got a solid C+ from me, which is as high as I can go for something that doesn't really give me a new idea to chew on. In the future, I advise you to think of your entries almost like a game of Scattergories: each one should have something that fits the subject, but that none of your readers would have thought of on their own. Combined with your overall strong execution, that'll earn you my vote in future rounds. Good luck.</p>I'm on the same page with most everyone else, it seems. This idea is sound, but it doesn't wow me. It's fine to work from a straightforward base like this, and in fact it can help you to keep your idea well-grounded; I don't see the glaring faults or unaddressed issues in your entry that I've seen in some others. The bit you're missing is the killer idea, the twist that turns this into something we've never seen before. Maybe if they were fighting some kind of degenerative inbreeding problem...Kris Newton2012-02-01T21:50:44ZRe: Forums: Round 2: Create a new organization: The Pure LineCaedwyrhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2nizy?The-Pure-Line#202012-02-01T19:04:58Z2012-02-01T19:04:58Z<p>This is a group who are attempting to breed a race of overlords. The timeframe of their plans may be long term, but their goals are still nefarious. Sometimes it is interesting to have your players encounter groups who don't need to be stopped immediately, and who might need to be opposed in a way that doesn't necessarily involve kicking in the door and killing everything.</p>This is a group who are attempting to breed a race of overlords. The timeframe of their plans may be long term, but their goals are still nefarious. Sometimes it is interesting to have your players encounter groups who don't need to be stopped immediately, and who might need to be opposed in a way that doesn't necessarily involve kicking in the door and killing everything.Caedwyr2012-02-01T19:04:58ZRe: Forums: Round 2: Create a new organization: The Pure LineSaint Trickeryhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2nizy?The-Pure-Line#192012-02-01T17:47:04Z2012-02-01T17:47:04Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Carl Cascone wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Saint Trickery wrote:</div><blockquote><p> Hmm. Kinda like Nazis. But with less going on. The real Nazis had a charismatic leader, scary secret police, mind control, and shadowy occult connections. As well as world domination goals, but I'm not recommending more of that.</p>
<p>These guys do eugenics by force. That's bad. I'm not seeing the end game to this, or how I'd build a campaign around it. </blockquote><p>I don't know if we should nail a designer because, eugenics is bad. So is murder, but we make villains that are murderers all the time. We make villains that enslave; there is certainly a segment of the population that could offend.
<p>The designer should not be dinged because an activity the organization does is offensive. Isn't killing innocent people offensive? So why do we allow murderers as our villains?</p>
<p></blockquote></blockquote><p>I probably wasn't clear enough. I've got no problem with a designer using an organisation that practices eugenics. I just think this one is pretty boring. I'd also have a problem with a villain who murdered people just because he was a violent murdery murderer.Carl Cascone wrote:Saint Trickery wrote:Hmm. Kinda like Nazis. But with less going on. The real Nazis had a charismatic leader, scary secret police, mind control, and shadowy occult connections. As well as world domination goals, but I'm not recommending more of that.
These guys do eugenics by force. That's bad. I'm not seeing the end game to this, or how I'd build a campaign around it.
I don't know if we should nail a designer because, eugenics is bad. So is murder, but we make villains...Saint Trickery2012-02-01T17:47:04ZRe: Forums: Round 2: Create a new organization: The Pure LineCarl Casconehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2nizy?The-Pure-Line#182012-02-01T17:04:09Z2012-02-01T17:04:09Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Saint Trickery wrote:</div><blockquote><p> Hmm. Kinda like Nazis. But with less going on. The real Nazis had a charismatic leader, scary secret police, mind control, and shadowy occult connections. As well as world domination goals, but I'm not recommending more of that.</p>
<p>These guys do eugenics by force. That's bad. I'm not seeing the end game to this, or how I'd build a campaign around it. </blockquote><p>I don't know if we should nail a designer because, eugenics is bad. So is murder, but we make villains that are murderers all the time. We make villains that enslave; there is certainly a segment of the population that could offend.
<p>The designer should not be dinged because an activity the organization does is offensive. Isn't killing innocent people offensive? So why do we allow murderers as our villains?</p>
<div class="messageboard-quotee">Sean K Reynolds wrote:</div><blockquote><p> Pure Line, racial purity, gotcha.</p>
<p>I dunno, this group just feels like a fantasy variant of the Nazis—obsessed with racial purity, reclaiming a lost empire, fighting racial enemies, breeding experiments, and searching for ancient relics.</p>
<p>Does it work as an organization? Yes. Is it really new? I don't think so.</p>
<p>I do not recommend this to advance.</blockquote><p>I don't find the 'nazi' theme to be any more unoriginal than another Merchant den out to dominate the trade of the world, or crazy cults.Saint Trickery wrote:Hmm. Kinda like Nazis. But with less going on. The real Nazis had a charismatic leader, scary secret police, mind control, and shadowy occult connections. As well as world domination goals, but I'm not recommending more of that.
These guys do eugenics by force. That's bad. I'm not seeing the end game to this, or how I'd build a campaign around it.
I don't know if we should nail a designer because, eugenics is bad. So is murder, but we make villains that are murderers...Carl Cascone2012-02-01T17:04:09ZRe: Forums: Round 2: Create a new organization: The Pure LineSaint Trickeryhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2nizy?The-Pure-Line#172012-02-01T16:34:28Z2012-02-01T16:34:28Z<p>Hmm. Kinda like Nazis. But with less going on. The real Nazis had a charismatic leader, scary secret police, mind control, and shadowy occult connections. As well as world domination goals, but I'm not recommending more of that.</p>
<p>These guys do eugenics by force. That's bad. I'm not seeing the end game to this, or how I'd build a campaign around it.</p>Hmm. Kinda like Nazis. But with less going on. The real Nazis had a charismatic leader, scary secret police, mind control, and shadowy occult connections. As well as world domination goals, but I'm not recommending more of that.
These guys do eugenics by force. That's bad. I'm not seeing the end game to this, or how I'd build a campaign around it.Saint Trickery2012-02-01T16:34:28ZRe: Forums: Round 2: Create a new organization: The Pure LineThomas LeBlanchttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2nizy?The-Pure-Line#162012-02-01T15:32:05Z2012-02-01T15:32:05Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Abraham spalding wrote:</div><blockquote> Purity in the sense of racial purity not purity of nobility among these 'lesser' humans. </blockquote><p>My take as well. Like breeding to create super-gingers (I support this idea!), rather than an amalgamation of blue-bloods.Abraham spalding wrote:Purity in the sense of racial purity not purity of nobility among these 'lesser' humans.
My take as well. Like breeding to create super-gingers (I support this idea!), rather than an amalgamation of blue-bloods.Thomas LeBlanc2012-02-01T15:32:05ZRe: Forums: Round 2: Create a new organization: The Pure LineJerall Toihttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2nizy?The-Pure-Line#152012-02-01T07:08:55Z2012-02-01T07:08:55Z<p>Chris, welcome to Round 2. I decided to look at your organisation first, because I'm interested in seeing how your Vorthos to Melvin style might apply here.</p>
<p>Yes, the villainous racial purity organisation has been done before. However, I like how you presented The Pure Line. You've managed to fit your organisation into Golarion, showing a lot of your inner-Vorthos in the process (at lease, in my opinion). This round was the perfect time to show off that potential, and you did it well. </p>
<p>In my experience, it helps when a play group has a good shared understanding of the game world and potential antagonists. Using a common or classic idea, like an organisation focused on racial purity, often helps a game run more smoothly (though at the risk of making it boring). I believe you did enough to keep the Pure Line fresh and interesting. I'd use your organisation in my games.</p>
<p>I'd like to see how you do in later rounds, especially where mechanics are more important. Good luck in the exit polls.</p>Chris, welcome to Round 2. I decided to look at your organisation first, because I'm interested in seeing how your Vorthos to Melvin style might apply here.
Yes, the villainous racial purity organisation has been done before. However, I like how you presented The Pure Line. You've managed to fit your organisation into Golarion, showing a lot of your inner-Vorthos in the process (at lease, in my opinion). This round was the perfect time to show off that potential, and you did it well.
In my...Jerall Toi2012-02-01T07:08:55ZRe: Forums: Round 2: Create a new organization: The Pure Linespalding (alias of Abraham spalding)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2nizy?The-Pure-Line#142014-02-20T18:19:39Z2012-02-01T06:54:22Z<p>Purity in the sense of racial purity not purity of nobility among these 'lesser' humans.</p>Purity in the sense of racial purity not purity of nobility among these 'lesser' humans.spalding (alias of Abraham spalding)2012-02-01T06:54:22ZRe: Forums: Round 2: Create a new organization: The Pure LineLars Lundberghttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2nizy?The-Pure-Line#132012-02-01T06:38:21Z2012-02-01T06:38:21Z<p>I'm a little fuzzy on this organization. They are nobles trying to keep their lineage pure. To do this they are mating with commoners? Are these children hidden within their society as true nobles or do they have an island somewhere to keep all the offspring? I also don't remember hearing of any noble families in Golarion having ties to the Azlanti. Maybe I am wrong on this issue.
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It seems like an organization similar to the Scarlet Brotherhood (one of my favorite Sean Reynolds products) from the Greyhawk setting. In that case, the Brotherhood had to completely isolate themselves from the rest of the world to work on their breeding program. </p>
<p>Also, I don't think Westcrown has a Duke. It currently is run by a Mayor.</p>I'm a little fuzzy on this organization. They are nobles trying to keep their lineage pure. To do this they are mating with commoners? Are these children hidden within their society as true nobles or do they have an island somewhere to keep all the offspring? I also don't remember hearing of any noble families in Golarion having ties to the Azlanti. Maybe I am wrong on this issue.
It seems like an organization similar to the Scarlet Brotherhood (one of my favorite Sean Reynolds products) from...Lars Lundberg2012-02-01T06:38:21ZRe: Forums: Round 2: Create a new organization: The Pure LineCaedwyrhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2nizy?The-Pure-Line#122012-02-01T05:33:00Z2012-02-01T05:33:00Z<p>This is an interesting idea. This got one of my votes this round.</p>This is an interesting idea. This got one of my votes this round.Caedwyr2012-02-01T05:33:00Z