As far as I know, the orc double axe is the only one.
I'm guessing that it was written that way so that new "orc" weapons could be introduced in future releases without having to errata the core rulebook.
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It's odd though. The first thing I did when I read this post was open up "Orcs of Golarion". That would have been the obvious source for new 'orc-type' weapons. But nada. Disappointing, but it's a little late to grouse about it.
That's actually exactly what I did as well. Then I checked Adventurer's Armory, then Advanced Player's Guide, then Ultimate Combat. At that point I gave up.
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This is one of the things that bugs me as well... saying that a race gets proficiency with all weapons with their name in the name of the weapon... and then creating weapons explicitly for members of that race but not putting the names race in the name of the weapon. Look at the Gnomes of Golarion book too.. same thing. Why not just say "Race X gets proficiency in all light smashing weapons" or "Race Y gains proficiency in all two-handed slashing weapons" or something. Would seem easier to me and wouldn't require that future designers have to remember to name their weapon after the race to make sure they're proficient with it.
Why not just say all orcs gain proficiency in all simple and martial weapons that are slashing (only, i.e. not weapons that are bludgeoning AND slashing, just those that are only slashing.)
Orc weapon is weapon that smashes, slashes or stabs. Most orc use axe. Some use two axe. Some use pigsticker. Some use rocks. Puny Pie-zoh man not tell Vrank what orc weapon is. Vrank say all weapon is orc weapon.
This post made me smile.
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I miss the Orc Shot-put from 3.0 -
2d6 damage, 19-20/x3 threat, 10 ft range increment
I had a GM that reskinned them as heads of fallen enemies. I started to get attached to the heads of some of the big bosses and they slowly became intelligent weapons with crazy personalities. One of them was explosive and returning, and laughed all the time. Those were the days.
Depending on what your GM thinks he/she could put in Orcish swords and bows if he/she wanted.
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1. List all Klingon weapons.
2. Rename them and give them stats.
3. Add them to the list of orc weapons.
4. Profit.
You can laugh, but when my half-orc gunslinger opens up with that orc disruptor, I'll be the one laughing last.
I remember the orcish shot-put from 3.0 as well. An OP weapon to be sure. There does need to be a few additional racial weapons.
Kind of surprising that the complete equipment didn't have some additional options. As it stands now, each race has maybe one weapon associated with it (dwarves have two). That's not really a lot to work with.
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This is clearly the most broken racial ability in the game. Are the enemies up close? Bash them with the sORCerer. Far away? Throw the Druid's pet pORCupine. Playing with 3.5 material allowed? March down to the Abyss and equip ORCus. Sci-fi crossover? Use the fORCe.
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1. List all Klingon weapons.
2. Rename them and give them stats.
3. Add them to the list of orc weapons.
4. Profit.You can laugh, but when my half-orc gunslinger opens up with that orc disruptor, I'll be the one laughing last.
Bat'lethOrc Double Scimitar
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Then they made Orc Weapon Expertise, upping the number of things with the line "weapon that has “orc” in its name" to two, and the number of "Orc" weapons remains at one. Good times.
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Yes, one of the coolest feat in all of Paizo and all but unusable because the only weapon it applies to sux. And still everybody just yells and screams because of slashing grace not working as they want.
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Be nice if there were 5 or 6 unique race weapons included in the race guide.
Or a side-note that some of the existing weapons count as racial ones like the kestros sort of did for halflings.
The new Melee Tactics book has the Orc Skull Ram.
Well, and some finessable Elven polearm.
It's something I guess...
Is the ram a character weapon because that sounds like a siege weapon. A finessable Elven polearm sounds pretty sweet.
EDIT: I see that racial weapons from it are:
Gnome Pincher
Halfling Rope-Shot
Elven Branched Spear
Orc Skull Ram
Don't have any other info though.
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The Orc Skull Ram is a character weapon.
Finally! A second orc weapon.
The Orc Skull Ram is a character weapon.
Thanks! I actually found a little blurb about it after I asked. Sounds like a large pole strapped to a person. I'll be curious to see the exact stats.
I'm imagining a log with some handles, am I in the ballpark?
Vardatch (from the Midnight campaign setting). Best Orc weapon ever.
One handed exotic (martial for orcs), 1d12, x2 crit, slashing or bludgeoning (one side is serrated, the other blunt)
Think of the Uruk-hai swords from Lord of the Rings and you'll have a pretty good idea of what they look like.
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More like this:
Orc Skull Ram
Two-Handed Exotic Weapon
Cost: 15 gp Damage: 1d10 ×3 Weight: 20 lbs. Type: B Special: ReachThis weapon consists of a wooden log with a shoulder strap to carry some of the weight. The name comes from the orc tradition of making the ram’s head out of a large skull. On a successful critical hit with a skull ram, you can attempt a combat maneuver check to bull rush your opponent as a free action.
Sounds nice.
perfect weapon for an anti-caster melee build.
Half-orc with orc weapon expertise (disrupter) untouchable primalist arcane bloodrager with superstitious.
The disrupter option of the orc weapon expertise gives +3 to concentration checks within your threatened area. Add that to the +2 from the 1st level arcane bloodrager bloodline and later the +4 from the disruptive feat.
So at 1st level enemies have +5 to cast defensively, from level 6 on it is +9.
It is just a proper two-handed weapon, not like the damn double-axe. And it sounds/looks cool.
More like this:
Orc Skull Ram
Two-Handed Exotic Weapon
Cost: 15 gp Damage: 1d10 ×3 Weight: 20 lbs. Type: B Special: ReachThis weapon consists of a wooden log with a shoulder strap to carry some of the weight. The name comes from the orc tradition of making the ram’s head out of a large skull. On a successful critical hit with a skull ram, you can attempt a combat maneuver check to bull rush your opponent as a free action.
Any chance you can give us a look at the other racial weapons? [Gnome Pincher, Halfling Rope-Shot, Elven Branched Spear]
I know UE didn't even have the dwarven longhammer and longaxes. I like the idea of them.
But ... even with that, a longhammer is kind'a similar. Why do the cool-sounding weapons end up with such crappy stats?
What Cronk do is take weapon from other place no one else use and make Cronk's. Orc Carrikal...'nuff said.
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But as a Trek geek, I have to add my two cents that betleHs are actually quite powerful; I'd rate them more at d10/d10, 18-20x3, blocking, tripping, slashing, piercing, disarming.
"Klingon smiths spend years working on a single bethaerbefrashs and fold it up to a million times to produce the finest blades known to mankind."
From how I understand the balance for weapon system (based on half remembered comments from devs), the difference between simple, martial, and exotic weapons comes from a point system. Each category gets different points- simple 1, martial 2, exotic 3. These points can be used to improve stats, or add special properties.
Your suggestion is... 7 points (high crit range-2, larger crit modifier-1, double 1, blocking-1, tripping-1, disarming-1). So I doubt it is appropriate.
And it isn't like real weapons couldn't do a lot of the things you said. The longsword is more than just a kinda heavy chopping weapon- in real practice, it was more of a lever for grappling adn then stabbing in the eye holes. But this system is representational and devoted more to movie tropes than anything.
Commenting on a near ancient post, but someone else was the one to renecro this thread. Just thought I would react to...this.
There's an Orc ram released somewhat recently, so now there are two orc weapons.
There's an Orc ram released somewhat recently, so now there are two orc weapons.
Yep. Two orc weapons. The entire horde has to share them.
