Exploit Weakness

[Trample]

Does the second option of this martial artist ability require the monk to make a wisdom check to be successful?

This part: A martial artist may instead use this ability as a swift action to analyze the movements and expressions of one creature within 30 feet, granting a bonus on Sense Motive checks and Reflex saves and a dodge bonus to AC against that opponent equal to 1/2 his monk level until the start of his next turn.

[oneplus999]

Looking at the whole thing...

Quote:

At 4th level, as a swift action, a martial artist can observe a creature or object to find its weak point by making a Wisdom check and adding his monk level against a DC of 10 + the object’s hardness or the target’s CR. If the check succeeds, the martial artist gains a +2 bonus on attack rolls until the end of his turn, and any attacks he makes until the end of his turn ignore the creature or object’s DR or hardness. A martial artist may instead use this ability as a swift action to analyze the movements and expressions of one creature within 30 feet, granting a bonus on Sense Motive checks and Reflex saves and a dodge bonus to AC against that opponent equal to 1/2 his monk level until the start of his next turn.

Since they restate that it's a swift action, but not that it takes a wisdom check, it looks like no, there is no wisdom check.

[Jiggy]

That's interesting... I wonder if that was a wording oversight?

[Drejk]

I think that repeating about the use of swift action is more of a redundancy - it can be equally reasonably* judged that using this ability is making a Wisdom check with bonus equal to monk level against stated DC and thus "martial artist may instead use this ability" involves making a check.

Unless there is FAQ clarification it is GMs call. Marking as FAQ by the way.

[Trample]

Yeah, you guys have hit on both sides of the thought process here and I can see both paths as reasonable. I agree it'll be a GM call until it hits the FAQ. The interest here is that a multiclassed martial artist can benefit from the ability if the second option doesn't require a check, but doesn't get much if it does (depending on levels in another class) since it scales with monk level.

And no, it's not a multiclass with barbarian!

[gbonehead]

Heheheh

I figured "Exploit Weakness" was a snarky comment about a player ability :)

[Mage Evolving]

I'd say it requires a check. My guess is that it is just a typo/oversight.

[Wiggz]

Trample wrote:

Does the second option of this martial artist ability require the monk to make a wisdom check to be successful?

This part: A martial artist may instead use this ability as a swift action to analyze the movements and expressions of one creature within 30 feet, granting a bonus on Sense Motive checks and Reflex saves and a dodge bonus to AC against that opponent equal to 1/2 his monk level until the start of his next turn.

Resurrecting this thread on the hopes of discovering whether this question was ever officially answered.