Who will join the new D&D playtest?


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Just a few simple questions:
Have you signed up for the D&D playtest of the new edition?
Do you actually plan to participate?
Have you been part of a pen-and-paper RPG playtest before?

My answers:
Yes, I've signed up.
Yes, I will take part in the playtest.
No, I've done alphas and betas for videogames, but never actually got into a RPG playtest before.

Please, keep things civil in this thread.


I assume right now all they'll do is send me spam mail. And I don't want to become a dedicated betatester who has to write reports, which I assume the first testing phase to be. So I didn't sign up.

If in a later phase, there is an open test with the rules for everyone to be accessable and we can have public discussions about it, then yes, I will most assuredly do that a lot.

Dark Archive

Yes, I have
Yes, I will take part but realistically i am invested in pathfinder I enjoy pathfinder and i don't see a need to change editions but that's my opinion
I was part of a the stwor playtest but never a ttrpg.


I have indeed
I plan on participating, and love the opportunity to input on the things that I think they do right.
I have not before, and would love to get in as early as possible.

I love D&D, regardless of edition, version, or incarnation (and quite a few of the games that have spawned from it). I love RPG's. I want to see them succeed, and if I can do my part to help them come up with a quality product, then I am more than willing.

Liberty's Edge

Short Version:

Yes
Yes
No

Longer version: Paizo got my attention and my dollars by building a better product and a better gaming product purchase model. If WotC can do that, they may get some of my money as well. I'm interested in finding out where they think they're headed and how much (if any) impact feedback will have on their system. The Open Playtest model is so anathema to so much of corporate thinking, I'm interested to see how much of it is for real.

Liberty's Edge

Nice Avatar Desriden

Yes, I signed up
Yes, I'll participate
Yes, I played in the Paizo open RPG as well as in a few video game betas.


Yora wrote:
I assume right now all they'll do is send me spam mail.

The signup page says pretty much exactly, "We won't send you anything except playtest stuff."


Yes.
Yes.
Yes.


Studpuffin wrote:
Nice Avatar Desriden

You too. :)

Liberty's Edge

Yes, Yes, and No.


Desriden wrote:

Just a few simple questions:

Have you signed up for the D&D playtest of the new edition?
Do you actually plan to participate?
Have you been part of a pen-and-paper RPG playtest before?

My answers:
Yes, I've signed up.
Yes, I will take part in the playtest.
No, I've done alphas and betas for videogames, but never actually got into a RPG playtest before.

Please, keep things civil in this thread.

- Yes.

- Yes.

- Only for the words of power subsystem from Pathfinder's Ultimate Magic.


Yes, maybe, and yes.

Maybe, because it all depends on how they're running the playtest and (excuse me for being mercenary) what I might get out of it in the long run.

I took part in Paizo's Pathfinder playtest because it was completely open. No worries about NDAs, having to coordinate with other playtesters, etc. We'll see how things go with Wizards.


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Pathfinder Lost Omens, Rulebook, Starfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Roleplaying Game, Starfinder Society Subscriber

No
No
Yes

I have no interest in this new system. Only responding here since it appeared only those who DO have interest were the ones bothering to take the time to respond. :-P


Joseph Wilson wrote:
I have no interest in this new system. Only responding here since it appeared only those who DO have interest were the ones bothering to take the time to respond. :-P

Thank you. It's difficult to get any idea of what people are thinking if they avoid the thread. Of course, I realize there is no way in which the results of this can be scientific.

Frog God Games

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yes, yes, yes

I'm always interested in checking out new game systems and there's nothing to lose by checking this one out in beta for free.

Scarab Sages Contributor, RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4, Legendary Games

No
No
Yes

I'd be interested to see the system and I'm sure I would enjoy having input on it through playtesting, but I just don't have the time to do it.


I signed on. I've never play-tested any of the earlier editions, or anything, for that matter. A couple guys in my group were in on the testing of 3e and 4e, and they enjoyed it. And I have the time to do it.


No
No (WotC lost me as a customer due to business practices, pretty much)
Yes (Pathfinder)


Yes
Yes
Yes

I was soured on WotC over 4e's inception, but recent articles by Mearls and Cook have made me not just curious, but hopeful.


I'm am signed up.

My group is pysched to playtest it.

Yes my group has playtested them before.

Contributor

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Myself:

Yes
Maybe
Yes

I'm interested to see what they have. I'm currently running a Pathfinder game and playing in a 3.5 game, so I'd like to see what 5th ed or whatever it is they're calling it is.

I also have always heavily cross-pollinated all my games. I see nothing wrong with using Pathfinder as my main ruleset but pulling out a few random things from Arduin or whatever. It keeps the players on their toes and increases the sense of wonder.


Kevin Andrew Murphy wrote:
cross-pollinated

:D


No.

Maybe.

Yes.


No, No, Yes.

Now my 2 cents.

Can't speak for all members of my local gaming group. But we made the upgrade from 3.5 to Pathfinder upon my recommendation two years ago. Their track record with 4th Ed has us unwilling to trust WoTc with our RPGing needs. All this announcement means is that they realise 4e alienated a large portion of their fanbase and loyal customers. Paizo stepped up and filled the breach. Paizo has our fav designers, a proven track record in delivering products we enjoy and the support of gamers old and new.

I may have had to downgrade my rpg activities from running 3 to only 1 pathfinder game recently. But since my departure from our local gaming club, I know others have stepped up in my absence and started pathfinder games of their own. Either PFS or pathfinder modules, or even 3pp or old OGL material that was converted into pathfinder. A new generation. No gamer I know even cares that 4e exists. I'm sure those of us who are interested in the finished product will listen in on reviews. Maybe have a flick through if we see it in a book store, but WoTc's attempts to bridge the schism won't tempt us to reconcile. They may have a good idea or two that could be borrowed for the pfrpg.

In Paizo we trust. It already is the future.

Who know, maybe they'll mess 5e up so bad that even more design talent join the winning team. Maybe the financial gamble their taking will pay off? Or maybe they'll create yet another schism between the fans of 4e that Paizo can take advantage of. What if in 3-4 years time Paizo ends up simply buying and absorbing WoTc's remaining stake in the rpg and create a worthy 6th Ed. Then we can legally call Pathfinder what we all know here it to be. The real Dnd.

Shadow Lodge

Yes
Yes
Yes

Of course, the second 'Yes' is out of my control as I've no idea if I'll be chosen to participate, but if chosen I definitely will. I've played every edition of D&D to date and have liked and disliked aspects of them all, I'm curious about and looking forward to what Monte Cook will do with 5e.


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Oggron wrote:
Then we can legally call Pathfinder what we all know here it to be. The real Dnd.

All of us, huh?


Oggron wrote:
unwilling to trust WoTc with our RPGing needs

I agree that the 4e debacle was a downer, but if WotC really does manage to create a decent game, I wouldn't mind finding out about it ahead of time.


ValmarTheMad wrote:

Yes

Yes
Yes

Of course, the second 'Yes' is out of my control as I've no idea if I'll be chosen to participate, but if chosen I definitely will. I've played every edition of D&D to date and have liked and disliked aspects of them all, I'm curious about and looking forward to what Monte Cook will do with 5e.

After a certain point the playtest will be open. Even if you're not selected for any closed playtesting, you'll still be able to try the game out and provide feedback prior to its release.

Shadow Lodge

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Scott Betts wrote:
ValmarTheMad wrote:

Yes

Yes
Yes

Of course, the second 'Yes' is out of my control as I've no idea if I'll be chosen to participate, but if chosen I definitely will. I've played every edition of D&D to date and have liked and disliked aspects of them all, I'm curious about and looking forward to what Monte Cook will do with 5e.

After a certain point the playtest will be open. Even if you're not selected for any closed playtesting, you'll still be able to try the game out and provide feedback prior to its release.

Then I look forward to participating and offering what feedback I can.

Haters will hate, fanboys will praise, but I'm going in with an open mind and as neutral a position as any gamer can take--maybe it'll suck, maybe it'll be fantastic, my guess is it'll be somewhere in the middle, but I'll let the game form my opinion, and not the other way around.


Scott Betts wrote:
Oggron wrote:
Then we can legally call Pathfinder what we all know here it to be. The real Dnd.
All of us, huh?

Yeah sorry, my passion may have made me overgeneralize and perhaps insult.

Not my intention. Merely speculating and commenting on the collective opinions of the 12-15 gamers at our local club. Not gonna argue my opinion in some childish flame war.

Merely stating an opinion. Theres inevitably going to be good stuff about 5e that will get used round many a table. I may be proven wrong. If others want to trust in this new alternative, fair play to them. I'm sure they'll enjoy their purchases.

But I'll save my time and money, if it's all the same thanks. Got Paizo books to get excited about.


Yes.
Yes.
Yes - playtested Courts of the Shadowfey for Open Design.

Liberty's Edge

Pathfinder Companion, Pawns Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber; Starfinder Charter Superscriber

Why wouldn't I? I love gaming, and I've usually got an opinion or two to share. I might not care for 4E in the slightest, but that doesn't mean I might not like 5E just fine. More things to spend my gaming dollars on! Huzzah!

(and I went all the way through the PF Alpha and Betas, so yeah, been here done this)


Yes
Yes
Yes, though not D&D.


Desriden wrote:

Just a few simple questions:

Have you signed up for the D&D playtest of the new edition?

No, and I won't.

Desriden wrote:
Do you actually plan to participate?

No.

Desriden wrote:
Have you been part of a pen-and-paper RPG playtest before?

To a degree, yes. I'd enjoy a chance to do so again -- but not for Wizards of the Coast.

I'm posting for pretty much the same reason Joseph Wilson posted above.

Liberty's Edge

Pathfinder Maps Subscriber

Have you signed up for the D&D playtest of the new edition?
Yes

Do you actually plan to participate?
Yes

Have you been part of a pen-and-paper RPG playtest before?
No

4e wasn't quite my cup of tea, it did many great things and the developers had the balls to try something new whilst still keeping much of what was familiar, but overall somethings just didn't gel with me.

I hope D&D Next follows the modular approach that seems to be hinted at so that I really can add or drop stuff that will make it a game I am comfortable with - using officially recognised modules rather than my own houserules.

If D&D Next can be done well and regain its popularity so that it gets even close to the popularity of Pathfinder Society at conventions I will likely back it all the way, especially if it supports the Eberron setting (tbh if D&D Next does become popular and they support a Living Eberron campaign I will likely champion that and drop PFS).


Is this for a D&D 5th edition? (sounds like it)
when did this happen?

GRU


I honestly don't believe I'd actually switch to 5e unless it completely blew my socks off, then picked them up, dusted them off, and put them back on my wiggly little toes. I'm completely happy with Pathfinder. I just thought it might be fun to give a playtest a try.

Frog God Games

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I miss the good, old days of my gaming group playing a myriad of gaming systems. The point was to have fun with each other. I really don't understand the mentality of sticking to one game with such fanaticism.


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Chuck Wright wrote:
I miss the good, old days of my gaming group playing a myriad of gaming systems. The point was to have fun with each other. I really don't understand the mentality of sticking to one game with such fanaticism.

Here's why: $$$$

For example, those Necromancer/Frog God Adventures I paid for. I want to play them in 3.x/Pathfinder before I play any other system.

I buy a lot of stuff.

I have a lot of stuff for 3.x/Pathfinder.

I want to use it. :)


Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber

Yes.
Yes.
No.

Frog God Games

DaveMage wrote:
Chuck Wright wrote:
I miss the good, old days of my gaming group playing a myriad of gaming systems. The point was to have fun with each other. I really don't understand the mentality of sticking to one game with such fanaticism.

Here's why: $$$$

For example, those Necromancer/Frog God Adventures I paid for. I want to play them in 3.x/Pathfinder before I play any other system.

I buy a lot of stuff.

I have a lot of stuff for 3.x/Pathfinder.

I want to use it. :)

Only one person has to buy the books! Our systems were spread out among several people.

I've read of many instances where someone HAD the books and was willing to run the game, but the gaming group refused to try the game out.

That's what I don't understand.

I certainly understand a lack of funds. :)

Silver Crusade

Shisumo wrote:
Why wouldn't I? I love gaming, and I've usually got an opinion or two to share. I might not care for 4E in the slightest, but that doesn't mean I might not like 5E just fine.

This pretty much sums up my feelings perfectly.

I lost a lot of respect for WoTC over the years. Their handling of the transition from 3.5 to 4E was done in a way that I did not appreciate in the slightest. For that, I stayed the course with Paizo and have enjoyed myself in a way that I knew I couldn't with 4E.

But with that said, I've always maintained that should WoTC go under, the industry would be consumed in the aftermath. Sure Pathfinder is finally getting the name recognition it deserves, but its still nowhere near the same as D&D.

As much as I don't like what WoTC did, I also don't want to see it fail either. Does that mean that I'm walking away from Pathfinder? Absolutely not. I'm a grognard that's just too invested in Paizo to turn away now. However, WoTC needs our help to succeed and they know it. The fact that they're willing to admit that much says a lot. And for that, I'm inclined to give it to them just to see what they do with it. If the end product is a better one, then I want to be able to say that I had a hand in helping D&D get back on track again.


My answers:

No.
No.
A tiny bit (just a few posts during the PFRPG playtest).

Dark Archive

Have you signed up for the D&D playtest of the new edition? Yes
Do you actually plan to participate? Doubt it.
Have you been part of a pen-and-paper RPG playtest before? No, just video games.

I am going along with this just to see what the base draft looks like and where they are going. I highly doubt it is going to be what I want out of (A)D&D, so I guess I just want a see as soon as possible what they have in mind so I can write it off just as quickly.


Yes.

Maybe. It depends if I can find a group to actualy play with.

Yes. a very lon time ago for a game called Elemental Masters.


Haven't signed up yet

Would like to participate

Never done a playtest before

Liberty's Edge

Yes,
Maybe,
Yes (Pathfinder, couple MMOs).

Depends largely on the terms of their NDA (if in the closed beta) and the reporting mechanism (forums or feedback forms or whatever). If it seems like they're just trying to ape their closest competitor and the reaper of their lost market share, without actually taking to heart the needs and wants of the community that built itself up around their acquired property, I don't see myself being a participant.

Then again, maybe they'll take it on in earnest. Trying not to pre-judge.

It's going to be difficult to bring my gaming friends back to the table with a WoTC product, though. Everybody feels burned. If they bring Dark Sun up to 5E or at least plan to do so, though, that might tip the scales. We all love that setting and were simultaneously glad and sad to see it brought to 4E (kind of like seeing a great game come to Mac when you own a PC or vice versa, I guess).


Pathfinder Adventure, Adventure Path, Lost Omens Subscriber
Chuck Wright wrote:
DaveMage wrote:
Chuck Wright wrote:
I miss the good, old days of my gaming group playing a myriad of gaming systems. The point was to have fun with each other. I really don't understand the mentality of sticking to one game with such fanaticism.

Here's why: $$$$

Only one person has to buy the books! Our systems were spread out among several people.

I've read of many instances where someone HAD the books and was willing to run the game, but the gaming group refused to try the game out.

That's what I don't understand.

I certainly understand a lack of funds. :)

My lack is always time! But my group still does one-shots to try out other game systems. Short mini-campaigns for when the main game can't meet but the rest still want to game. My 4 year Pathfinder game is almost finished. My friend is going to run Gurps Supers next. After that I plan on a Dragon Age campaign. My backlog of other games I'd like to try is huge (top on the list are Swords and Wizardry or Dresden Files.)


Yup.
Yup.
Yup.

Like the great 20th century philosopher - Bluto of Animal House - said:

"Don' cost nothin'"


Pathfinder Lost Omens, Rulebook, Starfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Roleplaying Game, Starfinder Society Subscriber

As with many others, my issue isn't with trying out a new gaming system. My groups primarily play Pathfinder, but also dabble in the likes of AGE, Savage Worlds, M&M, and CoC.

My issue is simply not wanting to give my time and money to a company that I have long since lost respect for. Childish? Maybe. I prefer to think of it as principles.

Either way, I would never begrudge a gamer their choice of game. And so, to each his own.

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