Lead Lined Sheath


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Sczarni 1/5

Detect Magic specifically states that it can't detect through a thin sheet of lead. I had a player wondering if/how you would go about creating a wrist sheath or something similar that would keep a caster from detecting his holdout weapon (a dagger) as magical. Didn't know if I was missing something in a given book. I'm betting that this would not be Society legal (and, let's face it, I can't think of many enemies who use Detect Magic to search for weapons.) If this were for a home game, I'd probably have him masterwork the wrist sheath as a tool.

Just curious,

Joe

Grand Lodge 4/5 5/55/5 ***

A simple Magic Aura spell effect would mask the item from Detect Magic.


I was wondering the same thing for a helmet.

Grand Lodge 4/5 5/55/5 ***

Unfortunately, with Permanency not being approved for PFS, you would be related to casting the spell to shield the items from detection. That might pose problematic.

Under what conditions would you expect this issue to be important during a game?


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A helmet with a sheet of lead in it should shield you from all mental detections without the need for magic.

Grand Lodge 3/5

Nickademus42 wrote:
A helmet with a sheet of lead in it should shield you from all mental detections without the need for magic.

Assuming it has no holes in it for eyes, nose, etc.

And assuming that detect spells are only focused on your brain, and not your entire body (ie your spirit).

Grand Lodge 4/5 5/55/5 ***

How would that help you to block the helmet itself from being detected? It would seem that Joe's intent is to hide something on your person so it will not be discovered by vision, and then mask its magical properties so that a scan using Detect Magic won't pick it up either.

Liberty's Edge 5/5

Nickademus42 wrote:
A helmet with a sheet of lead in it should shield you from all mental detections without the need for magic.

What are the rules for Lead Poisoning again?


Poison Use ability. :P

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I do not recommend anyone eat their helmet, whether it be made of lead or other materials, unless you are a Xorn.

The Taldan experiements with edible armor were generally seen as failures (cf. "chewy centers").

Sczarni 1/5

Bob's completely correct. Can't believe I overlooked Magic Aura. The character in question is an alchemist who has a dagger in a spring-loaded wrist sheath. Since the character's got a high Int, he liked the thematic concept that the alchemist would have the dagger enchanted, but obscured from Detect Magic.

Since Magic Aura's not on his spell list, I recommended that he pick up a wand of Magic Aura and just use that. This way, flavor-wise, he can claim it's undetectable because of a lead-lined sheath or what have you, but rule-wise, he has an item to back it up.

Thanks a lot to everyone who responded!

P.S. I'm with most people on the helmet issue. I'm thinking the target would have to be completely obscured. Also, a lead lined helmet would be pretty heavy. I'd almost be more tempted to seek out an uber-wizard and have him enchant a helmet with Mind Blank. jk

Silver Crusade 4/5

I like this lead lined idea. It blocks Detect Magic and Superman from knowing the magic dagger is there.

About the helmet, would that be lead lined or tin foil?

Grand Lodge

This reminds me of OotS. When Belkar Bitterleaf uses a sheet of lead to hide from the detect evil spell.

Liberty's Edge 4/5

Joe Dunn wrote:
Since Magic Aura's not on his spell list, I recommended that he pick up a wand of Magic Aura and just use that. This way, flavor-wise, he can claim it's undetectable because of a lead-lined sheath or what have you, but rule-wise, he has an item to back it up.

Either he needs to UMD the wand, or have someone with the spell on their list use the wand for him.

Nondetection might be a viable alternative, too.


Callarek wrote:


Nondetection might be a viable alternative, too.

It's a bit pricy to do constantly.

-James

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