For my tenth level fighter should I spend my 16k on an adamantium full plate or increasing my cloak of resistance from +2 to +4. I suppose some info would help
I have an ac of 28 in my current regular full plate, 30 when the oracle casts magic vestments, and up to 33 when I use combat expertise. I still get hit fairly often as I am playing a two-handed weapon brute and everything targets me first. My saves are F+11, R+8, W+8. The other party members are a paladin, and a wizard.
Cloak 1000%. A failed save will take you out of a fight, getting hit by an attack rarely will. Anything that makes you more likely to save should be a priority IMO.
For my tenth level fighter should I spend my 16k on an adamantium full plate or increasing my cloak of resistance from +2 to +4. I suppose some info would help
I have an ac of 28 in my current regular full plate, 30 when the oracle casts magic vestments, and up to 33 when I use combat expertise. I still get hit fairly often as I am playing a two-handed weapon brute and everything targets me first. My saves are F+11, R+8, W+8. The other party members are a paladin, and a wizard.
I would get magical full plate before getting admantine full plate. That makes your AC higher.
Neither choice is bad between better fullplate or higher saves. It really depends on how your GM runs his games.PS:After a reread I would push AC if you are constantly getting hit. The magical armor will be more helpful.
Cloak 1000%. A failed save will take you out of a fight, getting hit by an attack rarely will. Anything that makes you more likely to save should be a priority IMO.For my tenth level fighter should I spend my 16k on an adamantium full plate or increasing my cloak of resistance from +2 to +4. I suppose some info would help
I have an ac of 28 in my current regular full plate, 30 when the oracle casts magic vestments, and up to 33 when I use combat expertise. I still get hit fairly often as I am playing a two-handed weapon brute and everything targets me first. My saves are F+11, R+8, W+8. The other party members are a paladin, and a wizard.
Right. Cloak, hands down. Damage can be healed, but many times failing a save will take you out of gameplay.
Here's the critical part that should be asked.
What is the DM's style?
Does the DM go more with casting opponents, or more with weapon opponents.
If it's casting, the Cloak.
If it's weapons, the Armour.
For my tenth level fighter should I spend my 16k on an adamantium full plate or increasing my cloak of resistance from +2 to +4. I suppose some info would help
I have an ac of 28 in my current regular full plate, 30 when the oracle casts magic vestments, and up to 33 when I use combat expertise. I still get hit fairly often as I am playing a two-handed weapon brute and everything targets me first. My saves are F+11, R+8, W+8. The other party members are a paladin, and a wizard.
Could you maybe post your stats and other magical equipment? Level would be usefull too.
I am tempted to suggest something different, mithral full plate and maybe something to increase your dexterity.
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We are level 10
Str 26(belt +4)
Dex 18
Con 15
Int 13
Wis 17(headband +2)
Chr 15
Feats:
Power attack, dodge, mobility, spring attack, combat expertise, whirlwind attack, weapon focus(falchion), weapon specialization(falchion), improved critical(falchion), greater weapon focus(falchion), critical focus
Traits bonuses:
Will +1, knowledge religion +1 and class skill
Equipment of note:
Belt of Str +4, headband of wis +2, ring of protection +2, amulet of natural armor +1, cloak of resistance +2, ring of force shield, MW spiked fullplate, plot device +1 "incomplete" falchion that radiates a CL 17.Up until this point we had mostly only been able to find gear. I was able to buy the belt however, other than that I found everything within the AP. we have changed formats slightly so now we can pick our own gear at level ups, but gear we find gets subtracted off the total, but at less than full price. For example the oracle is keeping the rod of wonder we found so instead of 16k she only gets 8-10k.
Currently the max dex of my armor is only +3, so increasing dex will not help unless I also go with the mithril. Also I get enlarged often so it's nice that when I do my ac only goes down 1 not 2.
I would ask the DM if you can upgrade your belt with a dex +2 or +4. Get the mithral plate, that way your AC goes even higher, the armor check penalit goes down and you will be all shiny ^^
Regarding feats, have you consideres power attack ?
That'd leave 5k more, enough to make your full plate +2 with 1000 left for a bit of fluff
The magic vestments I get daily from the oracle is the same as +2 enhancement to armor and the oracle never runs out of 3rd level spells, and keeps that spell for her cloak of many stars thing, since she can't magically enhance it any other way.
As for the rest, I had considered asking the dm if I could upgrade the falchion to a +2, or even a +3, but I thought maybe some defense would be good. Though I can use combat expertise much more often if I increase my to hit by 2.
If you are not allowed to upgrade the plot weapon, invest in some pearls of power:
level 1 pearl: let the wizard cast a mage armor on the oracle, it gives a higher AC than magic vestment.
level 3 pearl: ask the wizard to prepare greater magic weapon, once for the pala and once for you he only uses one spellslot and you both get a better magic weapon for 10 hours each day.
Of course you don´t have to pay for the pearls alone, ask arround of you want to pool some money.
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I have an ac of 28 in my current regular full plate, 30 when the oracle casts magic vestments, and up to 33 when I use combat expertise. I still get hit fairly often as I am playing a two-handed weapon brute and everything targets me first.
Buy the cloak and take the feat Pushing Assault, and drive BBEMs out of 5'+full-attack range for their turn.
If you're a 10th level fighter, you're closing in on a +3 DEX bonus to your armor -- you should be looking at DEX belt + mithral, not adamantine. Adamantine is for dwarves who start with an 8 DEX and then Enlarge themselves to make it a 6.
Take mithril fullplate instead of adamantine, sure the adamantine gives yo DR3/magic but mithril gets you higher max dex and lower check penalty.
Plus mithril is less expensive than adamantine so you could get a weaker cloak of resistance then upgrade it later.
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Sebastian:
I have power attack.
I could do that, it'd be 14k for the mithril and the +2 dex added to the belt, for a +2 to AC, +1 when enlarged. I would benefit from the better skill checks only minimally, and I could never compete with the paladin on being shiny :)Banpai:
Mage armor doesn't beat the cloak thing +magic vestments as that's a total of +8 and Mage armor is only +4. I like the idea of greater magic weapon, though the paladin already has a +3 weapon, so it wouldnt help him any until 16th level, unless he reassigns the bonuses to abilities instead of enhancements. Maybe he would go for this.EWHM:
I like the gloves, I will run it by my GM, he does APG on a case by case basis, so we will see.
Sebastian=Banpai - decided to post on my real name from this point.
Power attack, sorry missed that one.
But shiny ^^, no seriously if the armor check penality isn´t a problem for your right now, the upgrade can wait a bit, but I would ivest in shiny before making it a +1 armor with other enhancements like fortification.
The mage armor was a suggestion for the oracle, I must have locked up the wrong robe, since the robe of stars does not give an armor bonus.
If you are human you are one feat short.
If the gloves are a very good investment, for future investments :
- amulet of natural armor +2 (+6k upgrade)
- cloak of resistance +3 (+5k upgrade)
- ring of protection +3 (+10k upgrade)
- cloak of resistance +4 (+7k upgrade)
- amulet of natural armor +3 (+10k upgrade)
- belt dexterity +4 (+24k to upgrade)
- mithral fullplate (9.8k after selling your old armor)
If the GM allows the belt to be upgraded with +2 dex for 6k you should do that first, and get a sash of the warchampion instead for 4k, increasing your armor training by another point and that will be enough to last you from level 11 till 15 at which point you want +4 dex on your belt.
The magic vestments I get daily from the oracle is the same as +2 enhancement to armor and the oracle never runs out of 3rd level spells, and keeps that spell for her cloak of many stars thing, since she can't magically enhance it any other way.
level 1 pearl: let the wizard cast a mage armor on the oracle, it gives a higher AC than magic vestment.
This is jumping outside of the purpose of this thread, but the Coat of Many Stars he is referencing is an oracle revelation from the "Heavens" mystery. It summons a level scaling armor coat that *starts* at the same +4 AC bonus that Mage Armor gives... so the oracle is then using Magic Vestments to further enhance that conjured "coat of starry radiance". So over all it sounds like the Oracle has her own AC needs covered.