I'm jumbled up here, I could swear that they did, but maybe it's in another edition. If so, I'd love a link to the rule.
If not, how do you use loot from enemies bigger than the PCs?
Wondrous items and rings resize. Armor and weapons do not. All the rest of the items work for any size wielder.
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Cool, could you please link me to the rule, or tell me what section it's in?
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It's at the beginning of the Magic items chapter under it's own heading. Here's the quote from the PRD
When an article of magic clothing or jewelry is discovered, most of the time size shouldn't be an issue. Many magic garments are made to be easily adjustable, or they adjust themselves magically to the wearer. Size should not keep characters of various kinds from using magic items.There may be rare exceptions, especially with race-specific items.
Armor and Weapon Sizes: Armor and weapons that are found at random have a 30% chance of being Small (01–30), a 60% chance of being Medium (31–90), and a 10% chance of being any other size (91–100).
--+1 Vrocking burst longsword
It's at the beginning of the Magic items chapter under it's own heading. Here's the quote from the PRD
When an article of magic clothing or jewelry is discovered, most of the time size shouldn't be an issue. Many magic garments are made to be easily adjustable, or they adjust themselves magically to the wearer. Size should not keep characters of various kinds from using magic items.There may be rare exceptions, especially with race-specific items.
Armor and Weapon Sizes: Armor and weapons that are found at random have a 30% chance of being Small (01–30), a 60% chance of being Medium (31–90), and a 10% chance of being any other size (91–100).
--+1 Vrocking burst longsword
Excellent, thank you. My error was in ctrl-f for "resize" rather than size, hah.
so is there a way to make armor and weapons a smaller size, if for say that fire giants has a really nice suit of plate. If you cant its pretty much enchanted scrap metal granted its a lot of scrap metal.
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so is there a way to make armor and weapons a smaller size, if for say that fire giants has a really nice suit of plate. If you cant its pretty much enchanted scrap metal granted its a lot of scrap metal.
Well keep in mind that there are always going to be equivalents, Say a giants Short Sword is a hero's long sword ect...
so is there a way to make armor and weapons a smaller size, if for say that fire giants has a really nice suit of plate. If you cant its pretty much enchanted scrap metal granted its a lot of scrap metal.
RAW there is no way I am aware of - polymorph any object might work though.
On the other hand RAW you could sell the huge +2 plate armor in any city of sufficient size.
Well keep in mind that there are always going to be equivalents, Say a giants Short Sword is a hero's long sword ect...
Except that you'd take a -2 for improperly sized weapons then.
I'm not even sure if it allows you to add 1.5x str, because originally it's a light weapon.
so is there a way to make armor and weapons a smaller size, if for say that fire giants has a really nice suit of plate. If you cant its pretty much enchanted scrap metal granted its a lot of scrap metal.
This is a really good question. I don't think there is but there should be
It's strange because if you were able to wield it as a size appropriate weapon then enlarge person would effectively make it bigger and reduce person who effectively make it smaller but the weapon couldn't leave your possession.
You can use permanency with enlarge person but if you ever dropped the weapon(disarmed) it would go back to its original size and remain that way.
I think.
If it doesn't then all you need to do is find a creature that wants to be enlarged or reduced and have them hold the weapon.
This is one of the spots in the game where handwavium is better that verisimilitude.
The ring that fits Sauron, who is probably not hobbit size, miraculously fits Gollum, Bilbo, and later Frodo, despite the fact that even hobbits likely have different ring sizes. The emaciated Gollum certainly should take a different size than pudgy Bilbo.
So the ring magically resizes. All other magic items use this same plot device, and even the arms and armor follow this same pattern via serendipity even if not through outright magic. The big trolls have a couple elven blades in their hoard! The barrow weight has his tomb stocked with hobbit-size magic swords because he obviously had some weird fetish for swords too small for him to wield!
If it's good enough for Tolkien, it's good enough for the rest of us. If you want to increase verisimilitude, make it a large bandit hoard with all sorts of different sizes of armor such that everyone in the party can get something that works for them and sell the rest.
This is one of the spots in the game where handwavium is better that verisimilitude.
The ring that fits Sauron, who is probably not hobbit size, miraculously fits Gollum, Bilbo, and later Frodo, despite the fact that even hobbits likely have different ring sizes. The emaciated Gollum certainly should take a different size than pudgy Bilbo.
So the ring magically resizes. All other magic items use this same plot device, and even the arms and armor follow this same pattern via serendipity even if not through outright magic. The big trolls have a couple elven blades in their hoard! The barrow weight has his tomb stocked with hobbit-size magic swords because he obviously had some weird fetish for swords too small for him to wield!
If it's good enough for Tolkien, it's good enough for the rest of us. If you want to increase verisimilitude, make it a large bandit hoard with all sorts of different sizes of armor such that everyone in the party can get something that works for them and sell the rest.
The ring explicitly changes size of its own will, not just to fit its wearer but to slip off fingers whenever it wants. The trolls have PLUNDER in their hoard (note that they don't use those elf-size swords and the one dagger). The wight has DAGGERS that hobbits can more or less use as swords, and those were part of the dead king's burial goods.
The emphasis is on "more or less." Tolkien did some handwaving to get the appropriate articles where his characters needed them and we do the same thing.
