What Campaign Settings would you like to see next from Avistan / Garund?


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I know the Dragon Empires Gazetteer and Distant Worlds are both just around the corner, but for my money there are still some real interesting places on Avistan and Garund that deserve detailing.

For me if I had a Wand of Campaign Setting Production +5 these would be my top 5:

1)Galt
2)Nex
3)Nirmalthas
4)Druma
5)Thuvia

What would be yours?

OH

Silver Crusade

1) Worldwound/Mendev
2) Lastwall/Hold of Belzken
3) Nirmathas/Molthune
4) Druma
5) Nidal


1) Kyonin
2) Numeria (and to say that I don't particularly like technology...)
3) Lastwall
4) Geb
5) Nex

Grand Lodge

1} Molthune -- heavy on the "Nazi/ Blitzkrieg" Molthune (and I guess Nirmathas, bleh)

2} Matriarchal Empire on the southern coast of Garund

3} Galt -- like Cheliax, this region is such a great concept it NEEDs a book soon

4} Worldwound & Mendev -- I'd put this higher I'm just nervous somehow that I won't like it

5} Cheliax -- the best concept area in D&D since "Vault of the Drow" (or maybe Firestorm Peaks) needs so much more than that pathetic, 3 page farce they called the "Companion."


I'd like to see what's south of the existing "Inner Sea"* region map, extending to Garund's southern edge. And I'd like to see the planet's equator marked on that extended map. Sadly, James Jacobs indicated last year that sourthern Garund was probably pretty low on the to-do list for mapping continents. So my next choice would be to sail west and map the remnants of Azlant.

*Since I continue to try to mentally impose Europe/Africa over Avistan/Garund, it still seems strange to me to use an analogue for "Mediterranean Sea Region" to include areas as far distant as Iceland or Norway, but that ship sailed years ago.


1) Numeria
2) Irrisen
3) The Worldwound/Mendev (the seem like they would go hand-in-hand)
4) Realm of the Mammoth Lords
5) Razmiran

Dark Archive

+1 to W E Ray's list.


1) Cheliax
2) Cheliax
3) Cheliax
4) Cheliax
5) Cheliax

There's a reason all of my campaigns have been set in one place.

Honorable Mention: Mwangi Basin


1) Lastwall
2) Andoran
3) Druma
4) Numeria
5) Alkenstar/the Mana Wastes


1) Geb / Nex
2) Mendev (or the Worldwound)
3) Irrisen
4) Galt (I'd love to see the players take it over and bring peace there...or a tyranny)
5) Nidal / Cheliax (Leaning more towards Nidal, since Cheliax has gotten a lot lately)


1)Nirmathas
2)Andoran
3)Irrisen
4)Druma
5)Galt


Dumb Paladin and Yumeko wrote:
Andoran

I refer you to Pathfinder Companion: Andoran, Spirit of Liberty.

(And on a related note, there's Pathfinder Chronicles: Guide to Darkmoon Vale.)

Otherwise, I would agree. In fact, I have the Darkmoon Vale book, and I recently ordered the Andoran book from Amazon.

Other than that, my list would be (in no particular order):

Irrisen
Galt
Druma
Geb
(and maybe Nex)

Icyshadow wrote:
Galt (I'd love to see the players take it over and bring peace there...or a tyranny)

As usual, my own campaign ideas are considerably less ambitious. I would like to run an adventure or campaign in which a mysterious organization sneaks people out of prison and smuggles them across the Andoran border. The PCs could be the smugglers... or the smugglees.

Or perhaps both! They could start out as prisoners, and after getting help in escaping, they could JOIN the organization!

And in fact, I based one of my PCs' background on such an idea. I called her Armandia Just.

Ah, do I miss my role-playing days! I hope I'll go back to it, one day. In the meantime, I'll have to be content with just reading Paizo's books. I'm reading one now, and I've ordered a bunch more.


I would want a nice THICK book on Cheliax. That is the one aspect of Golarion that keeps me from not leaving the setting due to my personal irritation with the available gods that keeps threatening to drive me away. :)

Cheliax is gold.

I also rather fancy the River Kingdom.

Even though people may be burned out on it due to other popular settings, I want to see what is *beneath* the surface. I have no doubt the world-devs would make it interesting. Maybe an underground kingdom of fallen/refugee Albino Azlanti Ant-Riders who ride giant ants by using corrupted rune magic to control them. Ok maybe thats awful, but I am sure the devs would have some good ideas about whats underground.

And what about whats overhead? I am new to the setting, but if any region has flying cities, I would love something about them.

I also love writeups of cities, preferably in detail. I dont own Cities of Golarion, but I would love a series of 32-page products, each being a 16 page writeup of a city. Places, npcs, weird setups, daily life, opportunities for adventure and politics, and plenty of details on cool spots of note in and below the cities. Hmm, maybe each city needs 32 pages. :)


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1) Nex
2) Numeria
3) Alkenstar
4) Cheliax
5) Irrisen

Though, I suspect we will see Varisia after the Shackles, considering what the next AP after Skull & Shackles is going to be.


Score to date:

Galt 16
Worldwound/Mendev 16 (A)
Numeria 15
Irrisen 13
Druma 12
Molthune 10
Cheliax 9 (B)
Lastwall 8
Matriarchal Empire in South Garund 8
Nex 6
Kyonin 5
Nex 5
Geb/Nex 5
Alkenstar/Mana Wastes 4
Andoran 4 (B)
Geb 4
Lastwall/Hold of Belzken 4 (A)
Nirmalthas 3
Nirmathas/Molthune 3 (A)
Realm of the Mammoth Lords 2
Nidal 1
Razmiran 1
Thuvia 1

Did a simple 5 for 1st choice, 4 for 2nd choice ... scoring system and listed ties alphabetically.

(A)= Double Choice, listed seperately and below single choice in the case of ties

(B) Already published.


- nex
- geb
- cheliax
- mendev

Is not a part of avistand nor garund, but i would like to know more abouit the empire of kellesh


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Numeria
Irrisen
Alkenstar/Mana Wastes
Taldor/Qadira/Kellesh
Iblydos

Dark Archive

Sites that seem particularly well-suited to adventure/strife, or are dripping with local flavor and seem under-developed to me;

1) Mendev/Worldwound
2) Lastwall/Hold of Belkzen
3) Numeria
4) updated / expanded Osirion
5) updated / expanded Qadira/Greater Kel


1: Five Kings Mountains (Not really a nation, but love me some dorfs)
2: Razmiran
3: Nex
4: Numeria
5: Galt


1. Mendev/Worldwound, classic battle vs evil, including on your side
2. Cheliax, only do it right this time
3. Lastwall/Belkzen, knights versus barbarians
4. Taldor. Decadent empire FTW
5. Realm of the Mammoth Lords, savage dire animals


I dont think my votes were counted, because I had cheliax as #1 and so did someone else so thats already 10 points isnt it? I guess I am confused. Or was I supposed to use a, b, c, d, e to get counted?


Yeah, your post was kind of "Hmm, how do I count this then?"

Silver Crusade

1. Expanded Osirion. Anything Osirion. Just more Osirion.

2. Dehrukani. This could be an awesome-wild setting to explore. Mwangi society with azata influences and unearthly architecture. Want to see more about this place.

3. Vudra(or Jalmeray). The sheer volume of material these places could produce is intimidating. And it's a cultural analogue that doesn't get explored often in RPG Land.

4. Numeria. Because barbarians versus robot scorpions with lasers and machinegun mandibles of alien origin.

5. Holomog. Garundi amazon culture that ride dinosaurs. No other argument for that nation getting a book should have to be made really.


Ornery Hobbit wrote:
Yeah, your post was kind of "Hmm, how do I count this then?"

When I first posted, I didn't realize that this was going to be a survey, nor that ranking counted, so I didn't rank my choices. All right, I'm not quite sure about my order of preference, but if I absolutely must rank them to be counted, then here goes...

1. Irrisen
2. Galt
3. Druma
4. Geb
5. Nex

(And I must say that I still don't see the point in voting for a setting book that's already been published, unless, as in Animation's case, you're asking for a THICKER book on a single area, which I personally don't see happening. And just to be clear, Animation, are you saying that you want to see a THICKER book on the River Kingdoms as well? Or did you mean one book focusing on one kingdom, another on another, etc?)


1) Taldor (expanded) far above my others choices
2) Nex (or a Nex/Geb book)
3) Cheliax (expanded)
4) Druma
5) Mendev/Worldwound

And a Casmaron Primer would be great...


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I didn't know my choices would be graded on a survey or I would have given it more thought and written with more clarity. I should clarify that I want a bigger campaign setting book for Cheliax as opposed to the companion-sized one we have now. I didn't know that a choice wasn't valid if it was a nation with a little bit of published material. Also, I forgot about a couple of nations when I wrote my post yesterday. Upon further reflection, my list would be more like this:

1) Nex
2) Numeria
3) Jalmeray
4) Alkenstar
5) Irrisen


Ashanderai wrote:

I didn't know my choices would be graded on a survey or I would have given it more thought and written with more clarity.

It was not only judged, it came back with lots of red marks.

Also, a note at the top says: "Please see me after class. -Lamashtu"


Ok then, my ordered post, taken from my original:

A) Cheliax
B) River Kingdoms
C) underground realms / environs
D) any sky-based locales or kingdoms

Dark Archive

My top five area's I would like to see covered or covered in more depth.

1) Irrisen
2) Cheliax
3) Belken/Lastwall
4) Worldwound/Mendev
5) Brevory


1 - Arcadia
2 - Arcadia
3 - Arcadia
4 - Arcadia
5 - Arcadia

greetings from Brazil

Dark Archive

kaymanklynman wrote:

1 - Arcadia

2 - Arcadia
3 - Arcadia
4 - Arcadia
5 - Arcadia

greetings from Brazil

Well Arcadia is outside the Inner Sea region. But I do agree the next area outside of the inner sea I would like to see is Arcadia as well.


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Dark_Mistress wrote:
kaymanklynman wrote:

1 - Arcadia

2 - Arcadia
3 - Arcadia
4 - Arcadia
5 - Arcadia

greetings from Brazil

Well Arcadia is outside the Inner Sea region. But I do agree the next area outside of the inner sea I would like to see is Arcadia as well.

As much as I would like an Arcadia Gazetteer or even an Azlant Gazetteer. Souther Garund or Casmaron really make the most sense. Especially Casmaron as there is this big whole in the middle of what we know of the world. ;)

Dark Archive

1. Nidal
2. Taldor (expanded beyond the companion)
3. Cheliax (expanded beyond the companion and from the perspective that those interested are interested in it as a LAWFUL evil society and not as how goodie two shoes adventurers should approach it's downfall.)
4. Geb
5. Rahadoum

Dark Archive

My votes:

1. Irrisen
2. Nidal
3. Cheliax (Echoing the requests for information on the LE empire itself)
4. Nex
5. Geb

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Overall vote listing (votes of X/Y were counted for both, voting for the same thing in all 5 spots was counted once, votes for things not in the Inner Sea Region or that aren't countries got an * next to them):

Cheliax 40
Nex 35
Irrisen 31
Mendev 31
Numeria 31
The Worldwound 29
Lastwall 22
Galt 19
Geb 16
Druma 14
Hold of Belkzen 14
Molthune 13
Taldor 13
Nidal 11
Nirmathas 11
Alkenstar 9
Holomog 9 *
Andoran 8
The River Kingdoms 8
Osirion 7
Isle of Jalmeray 6
The Darklands 6 *
Arcadia 5 *
Five Kings Mountains 5
Kyonin 5
Razmiran 5
Southern Garund 5 *
Dehrukani 4 *
Mana Wastes 4
Mwangi Basin 4
Padishah Empire of Kelesh 4 *
The Sky 4 *
Quadira 3
Realm of the Mammoth Lords 3
Vudra 3 *
Brevoy 1
Iblydos 1 *
Rahadoum 1
Thuvia 1


Hahaha, I was just doing that and then I refreshed the page :). Thanks.

OH


Cheliax 29 (B)
Worldwound/Mendev 29 (A)
Numeria 27
Irrisen 23
Nex 18
Galt 17
Druma 14
Lastwall/Hold of Belzken 14 (A)
Taldor 11 (B)
Molthune 10
Geb 10
Lastwall 8
Matriarchal Empire in South Garund 8
Osirion 7
Alkenstar/Mana Wastes 6
Jalmeray 6
Nidal 6
Arcadia 5*
Five Kings Mountains 5
Kyonin 5
Nex 5
Razmiran 5
Geb/Nex 5
Andoran 4 (B)
Dehrukani 4*
River Kingdoms 4 (B)
Nirmalthas 3
Underground Realms 3 *
Nirmathas/Molthune 3 (A)
Taldor/Qadira/Kel 3 (B-ish)
Realm of the Mammoth Lords 3
Mendev 2
Sky Kingdoms 2*
Brevoy 1
Holomog 1*
Iblydos 1*
Kel 1*
Rahadoum 1
Thuvia 1

I left data as compiled originally as technically folks were voting for more than 5 places by hyphenating. It’s easily converted though. Also took out the original votes of those who re-voted.
Did a simple 5 for 1st choice, 4 for 2nd choice ... scoring system and listed ties alphabetically.
(A)= Double Choice, listed seperately and below single choice in the case of ties
(B) Already published.
* Not in Avistan/Garund or a Kingdom per se


Southern Garund.

Casmaron.

Numeria.

Nex.

Rahadoum.

Grand Lodge

@ Ornery,

Holomog IS the name of the Matriarchal society on the southern coast of Garund. I just couldn't remember the name when I posted the first request for it waaay back in the Thread. (Adjust your *much appreciated* list-making accordingly.)


1. Absalom (300 pages book)
2. Numeria
3. Rahadoum
4. Realm of the Mammoth Lords
5. Mendev


I think those are the latest numbers, removed the double listings of Geb and Nex from the last version, combined Holomog and southern Garund

Numeria 34
Cheliax 29 (B)
Worldwound/Mendev 29 (A)
Nex 24
Irrisen 23
Galt 17
Druma 14
Holomog 14*
Lastwall/Hold of Belzken 14 (A)
Geb 11
Taldor 11 (B)
Molthune 10
Lastwall 8
Osirion 7
Alkenstar/Mana Wastes 6
Jalmeray 6
Nidal 6
Arcadia 5*
Five Kings Mountains 5*
Kyonin 5*
Absalom 5 (B)
Rahadoum 5
Razmiran 5
Realm of the Mammoth Lords 5
Geb/Nex 5
Andoran 4 (B)
Casmaron 4*
Dehrukani 4*
River Kingdoms 4 (B)
Mendev 3
Nirmalthas 3
Underground Realms 3 *
Nirmathas/Molthune 3 (A)
Taldor/Qadira/Kel 3 (B-ish)
Sky Kingdoms 2*
Brevoy 1
Iblydos 1*
Kel 1*
Thuvia 1

I left data as compiled originally as technically folks were voting for more than 5 places by hyphenating. It’s easily converted though. Also took out the original votes of those who re-voted.
Did a simple 5 for 1st choice, 4 for 2nd choice ... scoring system and listed ties alphabetically.
(A)= Double Choice, listed separately and below single choice in the case of ties
(B) Already published.
* Not on Avistan/Garund map or a Kingdom per se

OH

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