Arcane Archer no longer has to be an Elf or Half-Elf


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Silver Crusade

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According the the Errata I just received, we are to remove the line

Race: Elf or half-elf.

from the Arcane Archer description.

However, the PRD still has the line in it. Please fix this, and ensure all other errata are updated in the PRD too!


Yay for errata!


Long Had I ignored that silly line. I am so glad it is gone.

Grand Lodge

seekerofshadowlight wrote:
Long Had I ignored that silly line. I am so glad it is gone.

It's about time. Was that the last race-restricted class?


woohoo! now I can make a human AA and get another feat muahahahaha

Grand Lodge

Pathfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber
Exocrat wrote:
seekerofshadowlight wrote:
Long Had I ignored that silly line. I am so glad it is gone.
It's about time. Was that the last race-restricted class?

In Pathfinder, it was the only one since the Dwarven Defender was never imported. Personally, I'm a bit sad at the loss of flavor.


LazarX wrote:
Exocrat wrote:
seekerofshadowlight wrote:
Long Had I ignored that silly line. I am so glad it is gone.
It's about time. Was that the last race-restricted class?
In Pathfinder, it was the only one since the Dwarven Defender was never imported. Personally, I'm a bit sad at the loss of flavor.

Flavor yes, the class itself? No. Stalwart Defender

Shadow Lodge

Now the game is even more ruined !

Shame on you for giving players always more liberty, more fun and more options, Paizo.

Grand Lodge

Pathfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber
Azten wrote:
LazarX wrote:
Exocrat wrote:
seekerofshadowlight wrote:
Long Had I ignored that silly line. I am so glad it is gone.
It's about time. Was that the last race-restricted class?
In Pathfinder, it was the only one since the Dwarven Defender was never imported. Personally, I'm a bit sad at the loss of flavor.
Flavor yes, the class itself? No. Stalwart Defender

The loss of flavor I'm referring to is turning both the Dwarven Defender and the Arcane Archer into any race classes as opposed to being distinct racial classes.


Hooray! I don't think many players paid any attention to that restriction since the start of Pathfinder and even during 3.5. It was a stupid rule.

Even now, I don't like most racial restrictions on feats either. If it's not strictly tied to racial biology, anyone can learn it. It might be less likely for some, but I would allow an orc to take gnome feats that are based around skill and talent, for example.


Those racial limitations always had loop-holes anyway, like "you can be a human Arcane Archer, you just need an elven teacher" or something similar, but I'm glad it's official now.


LazarX wrote:


The loss of flavor I'm referring to is turning both the Dwarven Defender and the Arcane Archer into any race classes as opposed to being distinct racial classes.

Then they should be in a race or setting book and not a core book.


In the course of 3.X, has there ever been a human-only class?


I think there was, but I can't remember it's name and my initial Google-fu turns up nothing helpful.


Umbral Reaver wrote:
a human-only class?

The Urban Soul, from Races of Destiny.


I think Paizo has to make up their mind to either have options be race restricted or not, having PrC opened to have favored class options closed and feats limited by race accomplishes exactly nothing but a remix of options. Personally I find nothing wrong with options being race restricted, I rather have AA restricted to elves and houseruled in specific campaign settings than vice versa.
A homebrew campaign that denies options is frowned upon more than a homebrew that gives additional options, even if just for specific organisations.

The Exchange

Well, since nobody in my groups has ever expressed an interest in Arcane Archer and I've never even gotten around to including one as an NPC, I think I'll be able to endure this particular bit of errata. Saying nothing against the class - it's just that the archer/mage who's willing to reduce his arcane abilities in exchange for more archer options is a prettey specialized role even without the race-lock.

That said, I do feel that "secret one-race-only training" is/was an understandable restriction when one considers that inter-species genocide is a part of our favorite game, i.e. "Goblin! Shoot to kill!"

Liberty's Edge

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Given their DEX bonus and stealth capabilities, I don't think many of us are ready to deal with goblin arcane-archers....


Not as bad as pixies...

Grand Lodge

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All Right!!! Now for my halfing AA!!

:)


Azten wrote:
Not as bad as pixies...

That's a brilliant idea!


Michael New wrote:

According the the Errata I just received, we are to remove the line

Race: Elf or half-elf.

from the Arcane Archer description.

However, the PRD still has the line in it. Please fix this, and ensure all other errata are updated in the PRD too!

Where is this errata to be found?


any and all errata I thought were in the download section of each account

The Exchange

Mr. Green wrote:
Where is this errata to be found?

All already applied to d20pfsrd.com is where :)


Steelfiredragon wrote:
any and all errata I thought were in the download section of each account

Thanks, got it, and now I know where to look for future updates.

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