Item Creation Help Needed

[Goat Rider]

Hello there!
I'm looking for some advice/help in designing a magic item.

I'm playing a Cleric of Pharasma.
For my character, I've got it in my head to create a holy symbol with a little bit extra.

What I'm trying to create is a Holy Symbol of Pharasma that can cast Sanctify Corpse a few times a day (and maybe even unlimited times per day at a higher level). That part is easy enough to figure out.

The part I'm having trouble with, is that I want to have the Sanctify Corpse spell to be cast with a Permanency spell attached to it.

I did see the option of simply using the Rest Eternal spell instead. It's already considered permanent which is the main part that I'm missing from Santify Corpse. However, I don’t necessarily want to prevent a creature or character from coming back to life with resurrection and such, I just want to prevent them from coming back as Undead.

But as a Cleric I don't think I'll ever have access to the Permanency spell. Plus I'm not sure how, or even if I can, have an item that essentially casts two spells at once like that.

So if anyone out there can help me out with this, I would really appreciate it.

[Silbeg]

Goat Rider wrote:

Hello there!

I'm looking for some advice/help in designing a magic item.

I'm playing a Cleric of Pharasma.
For my character, I've got it in my head to create a holy symbol with a little bit extra.

What I'm trying to create is a Holy Symbol of Pharasma that can cast Sanctify Corpse a few times a day (and maybe even unlimited times per day at a higher level). That part is easy enough to figure out.

The part I'm having trouble with, is that I want to have the Sanctify Corpse spell to be cast with a Permanency spell attached to it.

I did see the option of simply using the Rest Eternal spell instead. It's already considered permanent which is the main part that I'm missing from Santify Corpse. However, I don’t necessarily want to prevent a creature or character from coming back to life with resurrection and such, I just want to prevent them from coming back as Undead.

But as a Cleric I don't think I'll ever have access to the Permanency spell. Plus I'm not sure how, or even if I can, have an item that essentially casts two spells at once like that.

So if anyone out there can help me out with this, I would really appreciate it.

One option would be to create this as a staff... you could have both spells in the staff... using the one that makes the most sense as needed?

Otherwise, you could always have an item that could do Sanctify Corpse, say, 3X/day, and Rest Eternal 1X/day?

Or, perhaps set it up where Rest Eternal takes additional charges?

[ryric]

Goat Rider wrote:

Hello there!

I'm looking for some advice/help in designing a magic item.

I'm playing a Cleric of Pharasma.
For my character, I've got it in my head to create a holy symbol with a little bit extra.

What I'm trying to create is a Holy Symbol of Pharasma that can cast Sanctify Corpse a few times a day (and maybe even unlimited times per day at a higher level). That part is easy enough to figure out.

The part I'm having trouble with, is that I want to have the Sanctify Corpse spell to be cast with a Permanency spell attached to it.

I did see the option of simply using the Rest Eternal spell instead. It's already considered permanent which is the main part that I'm missing from Santify Corpse. However, I don’t necessarily want to prevent a creature or character from coming back to life with resurrection and such, I just want to prevent them from coming back as Undead.

But as a Cleric I don't think I'll ever have access to the Permanency spell. Plus I'm not sure how, or even if I can, have an item that essentially casts two spells at once like that.

So if anyone out there can help me out with this, I would really appreciate it.

I would have the item just do the effect you want, and not try to have it duplicate the spell effect exactly. Make the spell one of the prerequisites for the item, and give your GM some outs in case his plot absolutely requires some NPC to return to life. Something like this:

Holy Symbol of Final Peace
This holy symbol of Pharasma is made twisted gold and platinum and inset with opals. Upon touching the holy symbol to a dead body, the wearer can expend a use of channel energy to ward the body against undeath. If the creature was slain by an undead with the Create Spawn ability that ability fails to create an undead. Attempts to create undead using spells require a caster level check against DC25 or the spell fails. These effects do not occur if the creature is willing to return as an undead; in such cases, the undead is created normally but only has 1 hit point upon creation.

I'd cost it at about 15000-25000. This has the ability to really mess up GM plans and it's really not a trivial item. The flaws let your GM turn an important NPC into undead for plot reasons if he has to.

[Tharg The Pirate King]

Easy to make this item and here is how and the cost.
[(1x1x1800)/(5/3)] (x2-if not worn item because takes up no space)or 2250gp this makes a Holy symbol that casts sanctify corpse 3/day
Since it costs 500gp to make the spell permanent normally I would rule that it would need to be calculated into the cost of the spell base for each charge per day as if it was a Material component. IE (((1x1x1800)/(5/3))+(500x50--following rule on items with material cost)x2) or 53600gp for an item that takes up no slot (holy symbol)that casts a Permanent Sanctify Corpse 3/day of course if make it a neck slot that drops price to 26800gp.

To make this item your cleric would need Craft Wonderous and the Spellcraft roll would be a (5+9CL+5(dont have spell)+5(if not 9thlvl)=24 (possible another +5 since its arane spell and not arcane but thats GM move).

Now you could make this item with permancy on the item castable itself which would be alot higher. Since Permancy requires a 9th level caster and is 5th level its (5x9x1800)/(5/3) x2 = 50625gp and then add the other spell 3375(not similar spells) grand total of 54000gp to cast Sanctify corpse 3/day and Permancy 3/day. No GM would ever allow a permancy charged item so dont even bother going this route.