paizo.com Recent Posts in Raging Swan Press: New Iconics!paizo.com Recent Posts in Raging Swan Press: New Iconics!2011-10-21T19:11:48Z2011-10-21T19:11:48ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Raging Swan Press: New Iconics!ruemerehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2n0nw?Raging-Swan-Press-New-Iconics#222011-11-03T23:37:54Z2011-11-03T23:37:54Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Thanael wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">ruemere wrote:</div><blockquote>Inquisitor. Hmm... Sherlock Holmes.</blockquote><p>Holmes is clearly a Rogue(investigator)/bard(detective) ;-)
<p>[...]</p>
<p></blockquote><p>Yes, I know it's a popular meme. However, given the self-sufficient, solitary and martial nature of first detective, the demands of his work would make him an ideal inquisitor - an investigative, yet strongly martially inclined character.
<p>Look at the list of skills: Perception, Disguise, Stealth, Sense Motive.
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Along with 6 skill points per level.</p>
<p>This is Sherlock Holmes in nutshell.</p>
<p>Regards,
<br />
Ruemere</p>Thanael wrote:ruemere wrote:Inquisitor. Hmm... Sherlock Holmes.
Holmes is clearly a Rogue(investigator)/bard(detective) ;-) [...]
Yes, I know it's a popular meme. However, given the self-sufficient, solitary and martial nature of first detective, the demands of his work would make him an ideal inquisitor - an investigative, yet strongly martially inclined character. Look at the list of skills: Perception, Disguise, Stealth, Sense Motive.
Along with 6 skill points per level.
This is...ruemere2011-11-03T23:37:54ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Raging Swan Press: New Iconics!LazarXhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2n0nw?Raging-Swan-Press-New-Iconics#212011-11-03T17:37:45Z2011-11-03T17:37:45Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Thanael wrote:</div><blockquote><p> Well all the core races are covered by the iconics so far: </p>
<p>dwarf ranger
<br />
elf rogue
<br />
gnome druid
<br />
halfling bard
<br />
halfelf magus/eldritch knight
<br />
halforc inquisitor</p>
<p>Are there any new race options in APG? How about using <a href="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/races/monsters-as-pcs" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">a nonstandard PC race</a>, Creighton? </blockquote><p>IF it's nonstandard, then it's not very iconic. :)Thanael wrote:Well all the core races are covered by the iconics so far:
dwarf ranger
elf rogue
gnome druid
halfling bard
halfelf magus/eldritch knight
halforc inquisitor
Are there any new race options in APG? How about using a nonstandard PC race, Creighton?
IF it's nonstandard, then it's not very iconic. :)LazarX2011-11-03T17:37:45ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Raging Swan Press: New Iconics!Marc Radlehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2n0nw?Raging-Swan-Press-New-Iconics#202011-11-03T01:38:01Z2011-11-03T01:38:01Z<p>I am playing a half-orc oracle of stone in our bi weekly game and I LOVE him! The oracle of stone is AWESOME! It has really cool, interesting abilities.</p>
<p>I'd like to vote for the oracle to therefore be a half orc oracle of stone (named Umbral if I have my say :)</p>I am playing a half-orc oracle of stone in our bi weekly game and I LOVE him! The oracle of stone is AWESOME! It has really cool, interesting abilities.
I'd like to vote for the oracle to therefore be a half orc oracle of stone (named Umbral if I have my say :)Marc Radle2011-11-03T01:38:01ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Raging Swan Press: New Iconics!John Benbo (RPG Superstar 2011 Top 8)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2n0nw?Raging-Swan-Press-New-Iconics#192011-11-03T00:46:11Z2011-11-03T00:46:11Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Creighton Broadhurst wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">John Benbo wrote:</div><blockquote><p> Creighton mentions his new iconics here-</p>
<p><a href="http://raging-swan.livejournal.com/115577.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Creighton's Blog</a> </blockquote><p>Yup! It's magus (far and away got the most votes) and oracle, cavalier and witch. I was surprised that ninja and samuari didn't get a single vote; I know they are pretty niche but I thought someone would go for them.
<p>Thanks very much to everyone who voted - it changed my plans; I think for the better </blockquote><p>While I like samurais and ninjas, it's the old school gamer in me that remembers them from the 1e "Oriental Adventures" book and we only played those classes when we were playing an OA adventure. I still haven't wrapped my head around the idea of a samurai or ninja in a non OA campaign. Also, remember how hard it was to be a ninja back then? But that's a cool set of iconics for your adventure. Kind of "new school" in the old school adventure. I like it.Creighton Broadhurst wrote:John Benbo wrote:Creighton mentions his new iconics here-
Creighton's Blog
Yup! It's magus (far and away got the most votes) and oracle, cavalier and witch. I was surprised that ninja and samuari didn't get a single vote; I know they are pretty niche but I thought someone would go for them. Thanks very much to everyone who voted - it changed my plans; I think for the better While I like samurais and ninjas, it's the old school gamer in me that remembers them from...John Benbo (RPG Superstar 2011 Top 8)2011-11-03T00:46:11ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Raging Swan Press: New Iconics!Creighton Broadhurst (Raging Swan Press)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2n0nw?Raging-Swan-Press-New-Iconics#182011-11-02T23:24:51Z2011-11-02T23:24:51Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">John Benbo wrote:</div><blockquote><p> Creighton mentions his new iconics here-</p>
<p><a href="http://raging-swan.livejournal.com/115577.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Creighton's Blog</a> </blockquote><p>Yup! It's magus (far and away got the most votes) and oracle, cavalier and witch. I was surprised that ninja and samuari didn't get a single vote; I know they are pretty niche but I thought someone would go for them.
<p>Thanks very much to everyone who voted - it changed my plans; I think for the better</p>John Benbo wrote:Creighton mentions his new iconics here-
Creighton's Blog
Yup! It's magus (far and away got the most votes) and oracle, cavalier and witch. I was surprised that ninja and samuari didn't get a single vote; I know they are pretty niche but I thought someone would go for them. Thanks very much to everyone who voted - it changed my plans; I think for the betterCreighton Broadhurst (Raging Swan Press)2011-11-02T23:24:51ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Raging Swan Press: New Iconics!John Benbo (RPG Superstar 2011 Top 8)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2n0nw?Raging-Swan-Press-New-Iconics#172011-11-02T23:02:32Z2011-11-02T23:02:32Z<p>Creighton mentions his new iconics here-</p>
<p><a href="http://raging-swan.livejournal.com/115577.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Creighton's Blog</a></p>Creighton mentions his new iconics here-
Creighton's BlogJohn Benbo (RPG Superstar 2011 Top 8)2011-11-02T23:02:32ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Raging Swan Press: New Iconics!Thanaelhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2n0nw?Raging-Swan-Press-New-Iconics#162011-11-02T19:49:18Z2011-11-02T19:49:18Z<p>Well then all the better. In the end it also depends on how creighton designs the adventure...</p>Well then all the better. In the end it also depends on how creighton designs the adventure...Thanael2011-11-02T19:49:18ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Raging Swan Press: New Iconics!Dark_Mistresshttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2n0nw?Raging-Swan-Press-New-Iconics#152011-11-02T18:25:00Z2011-11-02T18:25:00Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">BobChuck wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Thanael wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Thanael wrote:</div><blockquote><br />
<br />
Inquisitor
<br />
Oracle
<br />
Cavalier
<br />
Witch
<br />
Magus
<br />
</blockquote>The only Thing that is noticably missing here is a trap finder. Anyone know a way to cover trapfinding with these classes? </blockquote><p>I do not believe that trapfinders are still relevant.
<p>I do not believe that most people on these forums still believe trapfinders are relevant. </p>
<p>I think it'd be nice if trapfinders <i>were</i> releveant, don't get me wrong. But they really don't matter. </blockquote><p>They are less relevant than they use to be I agree. But I think it depends a lot on the game. I know in my current group while the group agrees if they have to be short on something a rogue/bard skill monkey is their first choice but they do hate being with out one.BobChuck wrote:Thanael wrote: Thanael wrote:
Inquisitor
Oracle
Cavalier
Witch
Magus
The only Thing that is noticably missing here is a trap finder. Anyone know a way to cover trapfinding with these classes? I do not believe that trapfinders are still relevant. I do not believe that most people on these forums still believe trapfinders are relevant.
I think it'd be nice if trapfinders were releveant, don't get me wrong. But they really don't matter. They are less relevant than they use to...Dark_Mistress2011-11-02T18:25:00ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Raging Swan Press: New Iconics!BobChuckhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2n0nw?Raging-Swan-Press-New-Iconics#142011-11-02T17:58:30Z2011-11-02T17:58:30Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Thanael wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Thanael wrote:</div><blockquote><br />
<br />
Inquisitor
<br />
Oracle
<br />
Cavalier
<br />
Witch
<br />
Magus
<br />
</blockquote>The only Thing that is noticably missing here is a trap finder. Anyone know a way to cover trapfinding with these classes? </blockquote><p>I do not believe that trapfinders are still relevant.
<p>I do not believe that most people on these forums still believe trapfinders are relevant. </p>
<p>I think it'd be nice if trapfinders <i>were</i> releveant, don't get me wrong. But they really don't matter.</p>Thanael wrote:Thanael wrote:
Inquisitor
Oracle
Cavalier
Witch
Magus
The only Thing that is noticably missing here is a trap finder. Anyone know a way to cover trapfinding with these classes? I do not believe that trapfinders are still relevant. I do not believe that most people on these forums still believe trapfinders are relevant.
I think it'd be nice if trapfinders were releveant, don't get me wrong. But they really don't matter.BobChuck2011-11-02T17:58:30ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Raging Swan Press: New Iconics!Thanaelhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2n0nw?Raging-Swan-Press-New-Iconics#132011-11-02T16:45:16Z2011-11-02T16:45:16Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Thanael wrote:</div><blockquote><br />
<br />
Inquisitor
<br />
Oracle
<br />
Cavalier
<br />
Witch
<br />
Magus
<br />
</blockquote><p>The only Thing that is noticably missing here is a trap finder. Anyone know a way to cover trapfinding with these classes?Thanael wrote:Inquisitor
Oracle
Cavalier
Witch
Magus
The only Thing that is noticably missing here is a trap finder. Anyone know a way to cover trapfinding with these classes?Thanael2011-11-02T16:45:16ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Raging Swan Press: New Iconics!Ben Kenthttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2n0nw?Raging-Swan-Press-New-Iconics#122011-11-02T16:06:30Z2011-11-02T16:06:30Z<p>For classes, I'd vote cavalier, magus, witch, and oracle. Covers you well for spells, and not too shabby in combat. Kind of lacking a skill-monkey, though, admittedly; might add in a ninja, or rogue...</p>
<p>For races, I'd add at least one "special" race, just for fun - probably of the rogue, since there's already an "iconic rogue".</p>For classes, I'd vote cavalier, magus, witch, and oracle. Covers you well for spells, and not too shabby in combat. Kind of lacking a skill-monkey, though, admittedly; might add in a ninja, or rogue...
For races, I'd add at least one "special" race, just for fun - probably of the rogue, since there's already an "iconic rogue".Ben Kent2011-11-02T16:06:30ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Raging Swan Press: New Iconics!Thanaelhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2n0nw?Raging-Swan-Press-New-Iconics#112011-11-02T15:57:30Z2011-11-02T15:57:30Z<p>Well all the core races are covered by the iconics so far: </p>
<p>dwarf ranger
<br />
elf rogue
<br />
gnome druid
<br />
halfling bard
<br />
halfelf magus/eldritch knight
<br />
halforc inquisitor</p>
<p>Are there any new race options in APG? How about using <a href="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/races/monsters-as-pcs" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">a nonstandard PC race</a>, Creighton?</p>Well all the core races are covered by the iconics so far:
dwarf ranger
elf rogue
gnome druid
halfling bard
halfelf magus/eldritch knight
halforc inquisitor
Are there any new race options in APG? How about using a nonstandard PC race, Creighton?Thanael2011-11-02T15:57:30ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Raging Swan Press: New Iconics!Baronghttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2n0nw?Raging-Swan-Press-New-Iconics#102011-11-02T14:40:00Z2011-11-02T14:40:00Z<p>Make another Half-Orc iconic! They're sorely under-represented in Pathfinder :(</p>Make another Half-Orc iconic! They're sorely under-represented in Pathfinder :(Barong2011-11-02T14:40:00ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Raging Swan Press: New Iconics!Thanaelhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2n0nw?Raging-Swan-Press-New-Iconics#92011-11-02T14:25:50Z2011-11-02T14:25:50Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">ruemere wrote:</div><blockquote>Inquisitor. Hmm... Sherlock Holmes.</blockquote><p>Holmes is clearly a Rogue(investigator)/bard(detective) ;-)
<p>I like DM's party setup. How about adding an oracle to this to round out the group? I think that makes a pretty nice group:</p>
<p>Inquisitor
<br />
Oracle
<br />
Cavalier
<br />
Witch
<br />
Magus</p>
<p>Make sure they differ well enough from the extant PF iconics, i.e. no Halforc pharasman repose inquisitor, no blind saranrae fire oracle, no half elf magus, no animal patron witch, no cockatrice order cavalier.</p>
<p>Also how about using some of the new archetypes?</p>ruemere wrote:Inquisitor. Hmm... Sherlock Holmes.
Holmes is clearly a Rogue(investigator)/bard(detective) ;-) I like DM's party setup. How about adding an oracle to this to round out the group? I think that makes a pretty nice group:
Inquisitor
Oracle
Cavalier
Witch
Magus
Make sure they differ well enough from the extant PF iconics, i.e. no Halforc pharasman repose inquisitor, no blind saranrae fire oracle, no half elf magus, no animal patron witch, no cockatrice order cavalier.
Also how...Thanael2011-11-02T14:25:50ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Raging Swan Press: New Iconics!ruemerehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2n0nw?Raging-Swan-Press-New-Iconics#82011-10-22T08:36:51Z2011-10-22T08:36:51Z<p>Oracle. As per Clint Eastwood's Man with No Name.
<br />
Inquisitor. Hmm... Sherlock Holmes.
<br />
Witch. Mrs Marple?</p>
<p>Regards,
<br />
Ruemere</p>Oracle. As per Clint Eastwood's Man with No Name.
Inquisitor. Hmm... Sherlock Holmes.
Witch. Mrs Marple?
Regards,
Ruemereruemere2011-10-22T08:36:51ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Raging Swan Press: New Iconics!Dark_Mistresshttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2n0nw?Raging-Swan-Press-New-Iconics#72011-10-21T23:34:25Z2011-10-21T23:34:25Z<p>If you want to use mostly new classes. i would say...</p>
<p>Inquis as kinda the skill monkey/backup healer
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Witch as the arcane caster/healer
<br />
Cav as the front line grunt.
<br />
Which leaves magus as a front line grunt and some extra arcana power</p>
<p>might be a little light on the healing but I think it could work. Could switch out a oracle for the inquis if it is a real problem.</p>If you want to use mostly new classes. i would say...
Inquis as kinda the skill monkey/backup healer
Witch as the arcane caster/healer
Cav as the front line grunt.
Which leaves magus as a front line grunt and some extra arcana power
might be a little light on the healing but I think it could work. Could switch out a oracle for the inquis if it is a real problem.Dark_Mistress2011-10-21T23:34:25ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Raging Swan Press: New Iconics!Marc Radlehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2n0nw?Raging-Swan-Press-New-Iconics#62011-10-21T22:54:18Z2011-10-21T22:54:18Z<p>First of all ... very cool!</p>
<p>What about a cavalier? Maybe even a halfling or gnome cavalier with a wolf mount or something?</p>First of all ... very cool!
What about a cavalier? Maybe even a halfling or gnome cavalier with a wolf mount or something?Marc Radle2011-10-21T22:54:18ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Raging Swan Press: New Iconics!northbrbhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2n0nw?Raging-Swan-Press-New-Iconics#52011-10-21T20:11:53Z2011-10-21T20:11:53Z<p>Inquisitor
<br />
Barbarian
<br />
Ranger</p>
<p>those are my thoughts. i would also like to see some small warriors so maybe make the Barbarian a Halfling.</p>Inquisitor
Barbarian
Ranger
those are my thoughts. i would also like to see some small warriors so maybe make the Barbarian a Halfling.northbrb2011-10-21T20:11:53ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Raging Swan Press: New Iconics!Evening Glory (alias of Kelsey MacAilbert)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2n0nw?Raging-Swan-Press-New-Iconics#42011-10-21T19:24:59Z2011-10-21T19:24:59Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Liz Courts wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Evening Glory wrote:</div><blockquote> Witch. I want to badly to reed about Pathfinder's Iconic Witch Character, but there is no information other than name, race, deity, homeland, and alignment (Chaotic Good makes me want to learn about her even more. The good characters at the coolest.). If Pathfinder cannot provide, perhaps Raging Swan can. </blockquote>The iconic witch (Feiya) isn't available for use by third-parties, but <b>I'm sure Raging Swan is more than capable of coming up with a new iconic witch to use. :D</b> </blockquote><p>That's what I was suggesting. I'd never ask them to breach their contract. Sorry for the confusion.Liz Courts wrote:Evening Glory wrote: Witch. I want to badly to reed about Pathfinder's Iconic Witch Character, but there is no information other than name, race, deity, homeland, and alignment (Chaotic Good makes me want to learn about her even more. The good characters at the coolest.). If Pathfinder cannot provide, perhaps Raging Swan can.
The iconic witch (Feiya) isn't available for use by third-parties, but I'm sure Raging Swan is more than capable of coming up with a new iconic witch...Evening Glory (alias of Kelsey MacAilbert)2011-10-21T19:24:59ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Raging Swan Press: New Iconics!Liz Courts (Contributor)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2n0nw?Raging-Swan-Press-New-Iconics#32011-10-21T19:17:38Z2011-10-21T19:17:38Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Evening Glory wrote:</div><blockquote> Witch. I want to badly to reed about Pathfinder's Iconic Witch Character, but there is no information other than name, race, deity, homeland, and alignment (Chaotic Good makes me want to learn about her even more. The good characters at the coolest.). If Pathfinder cannot provide, perhaps Raging Swan can. </blockquote><p>The iconic witch (Feiya) isn't available for use by third-parties, but I'm sure Raging Swan is more than capable of coming up with a new iconic witch to use. :DEvening Glory wrote:Witch. I want to badly to reed about Pathfinder's Iconic Witch Character, but there is no information other than name, race, deity, homeland, and alignment (Chaotic Good makes me want to learn about her even more. The good characters at the coolest.). If Pathfinder cannot provide, perhaps Raging Swan can.
The iconic witch (Feiya) isn't available for use by third-parties, but I'm sure Raging Swan is more than capable of coming up with a new iconic witch to use. :DLiz Courts (Contributor)2011-10-21T19:17:38ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Raging Swan Press: New Iconics!Evening Glory (alias of Kelsey MacAilbert)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2n0nw?Raging-Swan-Press-New-Iconics#22011-10-21T19:14:15Z2011-10-21T19:14:15Z<p>Witch. I want to badly to reed about Pathfinder's Iconic Witch Character, but there is no information other than name, race, deity, homeland, and alignment (Chaotic Good makes me want to learn about her even more. The good characters at the coolest.). If Pathfinder cannot provide, perhaps Raging Swan can.</p>Witch. I want to badly to reed about Pathfinder's Iconic Witch Character, but there is no information other than name, race, deity, homeland, and alignment (Chaotic Good makes me want to learn about her even more. The good characters at the coolest.). If Pathfinder cannot provide, perhaps Raging Swan can.Evening Glory (alias of Kelsey MacAilbert)2011-10-21T19:14:15ZForums: Product Discussion: Raging Swan Press: New Iconics!Creighton Broadhurst (Raging Swan Press)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2n0nw?Raging-Swan-Press-New-Iconics#12011-10-21T19:11:48Z2011-10-21T19:11:48Z<p>I'm in the process of finishing a new 1st-level module - <a href="http://www.ragingswan.com/shadowedkeep.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Shadowed Keep on the Borderlands</a> - and I thought it would be cool to design new iconics to use some of the new classes that have come out with Advanced Player's Guide et. al. </p>
<p>I'm going to design four new iconics and I wondering what classes people would like to see represented. I'm definitely doing a magus (mucho cool) but I won't be doing a gunslinger or alchemist. Given that, what other classes should I feature?</p>I'm in the process of finishing a new 1st-level module - Shadowed Keep on the Borderlands - and I thought it would be cool to design new iconics to use some of the new classes that have come out with Advanced Player's Guide et. al.
I'm going to design four new iconics and I wondering what classes people would like to see represented. I'm definitely doing a magus (mucho cool) but I won't be doing a gunslinger or alchemist. Given that, what other classes should I feature?Creighton Broadhurst (Raging Swan Press)2011-10-21T19:11:48Z