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Hippocentaurs.

I was inspired by wikipedia's Centaur article, which begins:

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In Greek mythology, a centaur (from Greek: Κένταυροι – Kéntauroi) or hippocentaur...

And now I want a creature with the torso of a man mounted upon the body of a hippopotamus! It must be done or our lives will never be complete! (...Or maybe I'll just reskin an advanced centaur and give it trample or something.)


Gluttony wrote:

Hippocentaurs.

I was inspired by wikipedia's Centaur article, which begins:

Quote:
In Greek mythology, a centaur (from Greek: Κένταυροι – Kéntauroi) or hippocentaur...
And now I want a creature with the torso of a man mounted upon the body of a hippopotamus! It must be done or our lives will never be complete! (...Or maybe I'll just reskin an advanced centaur and give it trample or something.)

No you should give them capsize. Hippo's kill more people then any other animal in africa each year. Mostly by knocking over their boats


Any creatures from Quest for glory / King's Quest that aren't already there. (such as the chess folk / Frost Queen / Ant People and Domovoi)

Grand Lodge

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I would like to add:

Animated Siege Engines - One thing it's an animated object balista-like that do 1d8 ranged damage, tops with a range increment of 20ft; another it's a scaring real animated ballista the shoots for 3d8 damage in a range of 120ft! Imagine animated cannons!

And i reinforce the Jacklope - what our drunken gunslingers see in the desert at night, and some even claim to had mounted one - and skilled alchemists taxidermists display proudly in their stores!? It' the famous Jacklope!

Liberty's Edge

Odraude wrote:
I'd like to see a write up of Spiritual Companions for the Druid. I've always loved the Shaman class in 4th Edition and I felt that the shaman options of the druid didn't quite fit the bill. I'd like them to be spirits of the wilderness and the seasons instead of animals. Things like lesheys or lesser kami or a spirit animal made corporeal. I think it'd be really cool to have that.

Sorry for the quick sidebar but, have you by any chance checked out the Shaman class for Pathfinder in the new issue of Kobold Quarterly?


Marc Radle wrote:
Odraude wrote:
I'd like to see a write up of Spiritual Companions for the Druid. I've always loved the Shaman class in 4th Edition and I felt that the shaman options of the druid didn't quite fit the bill. I'd like them to be spirits of the wilderness and the seasons instead of animals. Things like lesheys or lesser kami or a spirit animal made corporeal. I think it'd be really cool to have that.

Sorry for the quick sidebar but, have you by any chance checked out the Shaman class for Pathfinder in the new issue of Kobold Quarterly?

Sadly I am broke and cannot get that magazine until next week :(


Dragon78 wrote:

Stats for Formians would be nice.

I would also like the "Greys"(with telekinesis and telepathy) type of aliens or even "little green men" type.

I'd kind of like to see the Formians myself. And as for the latter, while they'd be nice, you could probably do something along those lines right now with a derro with enough sorcerer levels.


Dragon78 wrote:

Vampire Lord/Master Vampire sounds great to me.

More Leshay would be nice.

Brachyurus would be ok

What is a hunefer?

Mummified demigods who have lost their divine spark, the result of which has driven them mad.

Good stuff.


That sounds pretty awesome.


Odraude wrote:
That sounds pretty awesome.

One of my favorite things to come from the ELH.

That book had a lot of things wrong with it, but there were some diamonds in the rough.


Adam Daigle wrote:
Jabborwacky wrote:
Twig blights. They were one of my favorite monsters from 3rd edition ever since they first appeared in the sunless citadel. For the uninformed, they are small, low CR plant critters that try to kill living creatures for their blood.

I'm pretty sure those are not open content.

Also, while I know these aren't the same, can I interest you in a twigjack?

Yay! Twiggy is back! :D

Scarab Sages

Pathfinder Adventure Path, Lost Omens, Rulebook, Starfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber

More generally? The short rhymes that accompanied goblins and Attic Whisperers in Rise of the Runelords were really sort of awesome at setting the mood for upcoming monsters. I'd like some more Monsters with accompanying rhymes and other flavor for making them feel unique in the setting.

Dark Archive

What about a beholder. I would like to see that in 4th.


Not happening.

Silver Crusade

Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber
derf73 wrote:
What about a beholder. I would like to see that in 4th.

WotC intellectual property.

Before anybody asks: ditto for Mind Flayers, Umber Hulks, Neogi, Kuo-toa, Displacer Beasts, Gith(something), Carrion Crawler, Yuan-ti.


derf73 wrote:
What about a beholder. I would like to see that in 4th.

The Beholder is WotC IP, along with a few others like Mindflayers and Grell.


Even the Carrion Crawler? That makes me sad :(

Don't forget Grell.

Silver Crusade

Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber

It always giggles me that Illithids are closed content, but Neothelids are open.


I'm still honestly surprised that Paizo was able to get the Aboleth. I assumed that everything in Lords of Madness was closed content.


I just thought up of something I'd want to see in Bestiary 4! An mead monster! A creature that inhabits a bar for years disguised as a magical barrel of never-ending mead. While in this state, it feeds on the merriment of its patrons, until one day, it grows arms and legs and begins ransacking the bar! Its primary attack is a blast of magical mead that causes those in its cone to become inebriated. The mead monster also has damage reduction 5/impromptu weaponry and drunken boxing.

A more advanced version of this creature is the ale monster, followed by the infamous dwarven mead monster.

Silver Crusade

Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber
Odraude wrote:
I'm still honestly surprised that Paizo was able to get the Aboleth. I assumed that everything in Lords of Madness was closed content.

Aboleths first appeared in MM1 and were included in the original 3.0 SRD.


Gorbacz wrote:
derf73 wrote:
What about a beholder. I would like to see that in 4th.

WotC intellectual property.

Before anybody asks: ditto for Mind Flayers, Umber Hulks, Neogi, Kuo-toa, Displacer Beasts, Gith(something), Carrion Crawler, Yuan-ti.

I understand the legal issues about the names.

However ALL of these were inspired by older sources. For example, the kuo-toa and illithid came from H.P. Lovecraft (as so many other good monsters). Displacer Beast came from the Coeurl in The Voyage of the Space Beagle by A.E. Van Vogt.

In such cases, you can go back to Ur ("oldest") version that does not have silly IP restrictions and come up with your version. Paizo authors have already done this to some extent.

Yuan-ti --> Serpent Folk

Gith --> Denizen of Leng

My advice is if you want to ask for copyrighted critters is to do some research and find out from what public domain source they were derived. Only about 1 in 10 was really just made up out of whole cloth.


The coeurl was in fact used in an Adventure Path (Legacy of Fire?) but I don't think they have permission to reprint it. Same with Penny Arcade's Deep Crow which was in Second Darkness (I think?).

Paizo Employee Managing Developer

Odraude wrote:
The coeurl was in fact used in an Adventure Path (Legacy of Fire?) but I don't think they have permission to reprint it. Same with Penny Arcade's Deep Crow which was in Second Darkness (I think?).

Correct! The coeurl was in The End of Eternity; Pathfinder #22 and the deep crow was in Endless Night; Pathfinder #16.


Adam Daigle wrote:
Odraude wrote:
The coeurl was in fact used in an Adventure Path (Legacy of Fire?) but I don't think they have permission to reprint it. Same with Penny Arcade's Deep Crow which was in Second Darkness (I think?).
Correct! The coeurl was in The End of Eternity; Pathfinder #22 and the deep crow was in Endless Night; Pathfinder #16.

Will we ever see them updated for Pathfinder oh great flumph?

Paizo Employee Managing Developer

I'm not the best person to ask, but I'm pretty sure the answer is "unlikely". Those were done with a one-time license-type deal, if I understand correctly.


That's a shame. Oh well, I'm happy to have those books :)

Silver Crusade

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You guys just reminded me:

Advanced/evolved forms of flumphs and akatas.

Kind of along the lines of xenomorphs and metroids(a la the Gameboy installment that is).

Flumphs might grow into different forms appropriate for different roles and tasks, possibly with some sort of "humanoid-ish" variant meant to serve as go-betweens with actual humanoids. Akatas might have different morphologies depending on what they creatures they were incubated within!


As you can see from my avatar, I love akatas. I'd definitely like that. Also just more aliens in general

Silver Crusade

Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber
darth_borehd wrote:
Gorbacz wrote:
derf73 wrote:
What about a beholder. I would like to see that in 4th.

WotC intellectual property.

Before anybody asks: ditto for Mind Flayers, Umber Hulks, Neogi, Kuo-toa, Displacer Beasts, Gith(something), Carrion Crawler, Yuan-ti.

I understand the legal issues about the names.

However ALL of these were inspired by older sources. For example, the kuo-toa and illithid came from H.P. Lovecraft (as so many other good monsters). Displacer Beast came from the Coeurl in The Voyage of the Space Beagle by A.E. Van Vogt.

In such cases, you can go back to Ur ("oldest") version that does not have silly IP restrictions and come up with your version. Paizo authors have already done this to some extent.

Yuan-ti --> Serpent Folk

Gith --> Denizen of Leng

My advice is if you want to ask for copyrighted critters is to do some research and find out from what public domain source they were derived. Only about 1 in 10 was really just made up out of whole cloth.

Coeurls are copyrighted, too. :)


Gorbacz wrote:


Coeurls are copyrighted, too. :)

Are they? I just assumed they were public domain by now.

The Exchange

if we're still taking requests for creatures for bestiary 4, may I suggest adding the common herd animal, the ox.


darth_borehd wrote:
Are they? I just assumed they were public domain by now.

A.E. van Vogt lived to see the 21st century, IIRC. Just barely, but even so.


A type of evil fey that can change into any humaniod(even specific ones) and feeds off of emotions and gains power from it.

More luck based monsters would be nice.

A monster that creates force fields or barriers of somekind as a supernatural power.

More light based/themed monsters.

A creature that changes it's elemental strenghts and weakness(es) each round or when it get's hit by what it is weak too.

A creature who's DR changes each round or when it get's hit.

New (improved)familars that are of the Monstrous humaniod, Ooze, Plant, Construct, Fey, or Aberation types.

Around five (or more) playable 0HD races.

At least 15-20 Fey and at least 8 more Elementals.

More Angles, Azatas, Proteans, Qlippoths, Agathions, Oni, Azura, and Inevitables.


I remember reading somewhere about a company or supplement that had the idea of undead elementals. Sounded interesting.

As for luck based monsters... eh... Pugwampis left a poor taste in my mouth. They are still the only monster that killed an entire campaign. Three hours of the same combat, everyone rolling poor because of those damned creatures. Shame too.


Pirannah Swarms. I think at the moment we only have them from 3rd party sources.

Paizo Employee Managing Developer

Gluttony wrote:
Pirannah Swarms. I think at the moment we only have them from 3rd party sources.

Pathfinder #39 had a piranha swarm and a megapiranha.


Adam Daigle wrote:
Gluttony wrote:
Pirannah Swarms. I think at the moment we only have them from 3rd party sources.
Pathfinder #39 had a piranha swarm and a megapiranha.

Hunh, I'm surprised the SRD doesn't have the Piranha swarm then. I can only see the 3rd party ones up there.


If the following are possible....

1) Arcane Dragons: Hex & Tome-Dragon Magazine# 343

2) The Clockwork Horrors-Dragon Magazine# 350

3) Alchemical Undead-Dragon Magazine# 350

4) Toxic Ooze-Dragon Magazine# 350


Dragon78 wrote:
A type of evil fey that can change into any humaniod(even specific ones) and feeds off of emotions and gains power from it.

I see what you did there.

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A creature that changes it's elemental strenghts and weakness(es) each round or when it get's hit by what it is weak too.

A creature who's DR changes each round or when it get's hit.

And there, too.

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New (improved)familars that are of the Monstrous humaniod, Ooze, Plant, Construct, Fey, or Aberation types.

Around five (or more) playable 0HD races.

At least 15-20 Fey and at least 8 more Elementals.

More Angles, Azatas, Proteans, Qlippoths, Agathions, Oni, Azura, and Inevitables.

Agreed on all counts, especially "more fey." (I was unreasonably thrilled about the nuckelavee making it into B3.)


Gorbacz wrote:
It always giggles me that Illithids are closed content, but Neothelids are open.

Beholders are closed content and specifically reserved Product Identity . . . but the Eye of the Deep, Gorbel, and Gas Spore are all open content.


I would like to see the Eye of the deep get into a Bestairy.


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A creature that changes it's elemental strenghts and weakness(es) each round or when it get's hit by what it is weak too.

= Jubjub Bird

Also beholder-like things aren't going to happen James Said it himself, no eye of the deep ever. (too bad)

My hopes are on other eye-based monsters, Hyakume, Argus and Slime Eye.

Silver Crusade

Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber
RCM wrote:

If the following are possible....

1) Arcane Dragons: Hex & Tome-Dragon Magazine# 343

2) The Clockwork Horrors-Dragon Magazine# 350

3) Alchemical Undead-Dragon Magazine# 350

4) Toxic Ooze-Dragon Magazine# 350

WotC IP, all of them.


Gorbacz wrote:
WotC IP, all of them.

Oh well, I was hoping.


I still can't believe the mantis is getting no attention at ALL.

Everyone wants more scorpions, spiders and beetles but nobody actually cares for more unique mantis monsters at all...

There isn't an insect as cool as the mantis, and only one mantis monster (I don't count indestructable gods as creature) is really a shame compared to the many spiders and scorpions in the books.

Is this because of the religion fact? Many other forums told me that Mantis-monsters can't be made because its against some form of american religion?


Somehow, I don't think offending the religious is the issue.

Paizo Employee Managing Developer

I'm a huge champion of the mantis.

Dark Archive

And then there's the love-child of Achaekek and Calistria's avatars.

Sovereign Court

I would like it if thee were more options for lycanthropes. Maybe even NPCs that have at least the core classes, but are of monster races if they aren't included in the NPC Codex or the Advanced Race Guide.

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